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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BYD will drown London.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      in HF gas

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lmao what can one silly man do to slow sales that badly?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      tell the truth

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't take seriously the ramblings of someone who is a former owner of a McLaren F1.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the f1 is fricking based you camaro loving homosexual.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        tesla* tyvm

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the f1 is fricking based
        That's the point, you illiterate moron.

        You can't be all that smart if you're giving away the most based sportscar of the modern era.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I understand it, if you have a lot of money you can buy a supercar as an investment and then sell it for what you bought it for. This gives you the opportunity to drive all of them, not just one.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Especially if you're someone like Mr Bean, and you can get more money based on that.
            It would be like buying James May's Alpine, you know its been properly taken care off.

            Unlike Jeremy Clarkson, who might have to pay people to take his old cars.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >supercar
            >investment
            I swear to god if I hear another person saying this then DA is full of morons
            Cars are depreciating assets no matter how well kept they are. The only reason they “appreciate” in value is cause you get some moron to pay extra when selling it because it’s “A GARAGE QUEEN, AC BLOWS COLD, GARAGE KEPT ITS ENTIRE LIFE, ENTIRE BILL SERVICE RECORD, CARFAX, I KNOW WHAT I GOT”

            Even houses are slowly depreciating assets (over decades) too, the only good assets to own are stocks and bonds within successful companies, and useful skills and knowledge. You morons going “durrr supercar investment!” Is why used cars are so fricking expensive in the first place, nobody is going to casually shell 300-700k+ for some branded shitbox with le special tractor engine cause it does 2.1s 0-60. If your willing to shell 300k for some shitty Ferrari or Lamborghini branded car your better off strapping a homemade jet engine into a gokart and filming it. Colin Furze did it on a way cheaper budget than 300k, and so did many other people when they wanted a high speed thrill.

            Captcha VAST

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Do you really think a regular person buying a Corolla at the dealership is the same as Mr Bean's shell company showing a loss due to the purchase of a two hundred thousand dollar asset (which IS going to be more valuable next year)?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mclaren F1's are worth 20 million dollars now. Certain cars are investments, but no one here can afford them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Even houses are slowly depreciating assets (over decades) too
            lol

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don’t own the land under the house if you’re doing a mortgage.
            As for why house prices are fricked, blame mass buying by Chinese realtors and rental companies like blackrock.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He sold his F1 for a profit even though he split it in half after wrapping it around a tree and spent $1.4m fixing it
            https://www.topgearmag.in/news/others/how-mr-bean-crashed-his-mclaren-f1-twice-and-sold-it-for-a-113-million-profit

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            are you for real, that was a lot of effort for trolling.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mr Bean didn't make the F1 an investment, it just became one. Once it became too valuable to be enjoyable, he sold up.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Even Gordon Murray sold his because they went from being £1M cars to £10M cars and it changes the ownership dynamic completely.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't care how much you want to deny this, you will get bored of your dream car at some point.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't he sell his f1 because it got destroyed in an accident?
          If memory serves, he drove the frick out of it and smashed it, called his insurance and they had a panic attack because they'd go bankrupt if they had to pay out the car

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      not a lot of people know this but it's actually a better daily than any toyota

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post car.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the f1 is fricking based
      That's the point, you illiterate moron.

      You can't be all that smart if you're giving away the most based sportscar of the modern era.

      he drove the shit out of his while he had it so I don't blame him for moving on to something else

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't take seriously the ramblings of someone who is a current owner of a bus pass.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's an oyster card

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dunno if same article
    1/2
    >Rowan Atkinson has been blamed for plunging electric car sales according to the House of Lords.

    >The British comedian and actor was blamed for “damaging” public perception of electric cars after an article he wrote for the Guardian in 2023 poured cold water on the emerging clean technology.

    >Atkinson is a known car enthusiast and has owned iconic supercars such as the McLaren F1.

    >In his 2023 column Atkinson says he felt “duped” by electric cars despite being an early adopter. He claimed that electric cars aren’t as environmentally friendly as they seem.

    >Atkinson says the problem with this is it focuses on just one part of the car’s operating life: what comes out of the exhaust pipes and ignores other elements such as the manufacturing and the mining of rare earth minerals, shipping and building of the batteries.

    >The finding that Atkinson was partly to blame for slowing sales of electric cars was revealed by the House of Lords environment and climate change committee.

    >UK think tank the Green Alliance says: “One of the most damaging articles was a comment piece written by Rowan Atkinson in The Guardian which has been roundly debunked.”

    >Other deterrents identified by the committee were the high purchase price and insufficient charging infrastructure.

    >[some twitter posts]

    >High power costs in the UK can also mean fast charging your electric car can be more expensive than refuelling a petrol or diesel vehicle.

    >The UK is planning to ban sales of petrol and diesel vehicles from 2035.

    >Sales of electric cars are slowing in many other parts of the world as cost of living pressures bite.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      oops forgot link
      https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/motoring-news/rowan-atkinson-blamed-for-slumping-electric-car-sales/news-story/cc709061b0606f1d4ac4318ff0d2721f
      2/2
      >Volkswagen has mothballed plans to build more battery factories as demand in Europe slumped according to a report from Reuters.

      >US maker GM has also slashed its electric vehicle targets as buyers shun the vehicles for conventional powered cars.

      >Australia faces similar challenges to the UK where electric cars often cost tens of thousands more than petrol equivalents and public charging infrastructure is extremely inadequate for mass adoption.

      >In Australia sales of electric cars jumped by 161 per cent in 2023 with more than 87,000 EVs finding a new home.

      >Tesla and emerging brand BYD led the charge accounting for more than 58,000 sales between them.

      >Head of the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries Tony Weber says the latest January sales figures show Australia’s growing preference for big cars powered by petrol and diesel.

      >“Even with the current incentives offered by the Commonwealth and State and Territory Governments, sales of battery electric vehicles appear to have plateaued during recent months.”

      >Sales of electric cars only grew by 0.8 per cent in January compared to the same month in 2023.

      >Electric vehicle sales have softened in part because of logistic hassles for Tesla, which had to turn around a ship carrying thousands of cars due to biosecurity concerns. The brand also had to pause deliveries of the Model 3 to rectify child seat trouble in the latest model.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        In a "Free and Democratic Society" that means the people have voted with their wallets and simply do not want EVs.
        Sounds an aweful lot like the system is working to me, don't see the need to keep pushing a failed project against the will of the people...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's been debunked! It's been DEBUUUUUNKED! Ignore it! It's debunked because we've said it's debunked, we decide when something is debunked and therefore illegal to say! STOP TALKING!
      https://scoobysworkshop.com/2019/07/11/electric-cars-are-like-a-multivitamin-pill/

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/4a5MuBr.jpg

        >"it's been debunked!"
        >articles never link or cite where it has been debunked

        kek these were my first thoughts when i was copy pasting that article

        https://i.imgur.com/ARuWVTI.jpg

        thanks, mr. skunk

        thanks mr skunk that rebunks debunks

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for the link, I'm going to go daddy go.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well, shit.
          http://web.archive.org/web/20211213200339/https://scoobysworkshop.com/2019/07/11/electric-cars-are-like-a-multivitamin-pill/

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >some californian rambling
            I got dumber reading that which is pretty impressive for a sub-95 IQ flyover enjoyer

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/4a5MuBr.jpg

        >"it's been debunked!"
        >articles never link or cite where it has been debunked

        Rowan's column provided basically no data on how much worse EVs are for the environment he just listed their disadvantages without any comparative numbers. Every ICE/EV environment debate consists of qualitative shitflinging about how X has [a disadvantage] therefore its worthless.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"it's been debunked!"
      >articles never link or cite where it has been debunked

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >slammed
      "slammed" = made leftypol tards on twitter angry

      > poured cold water
      british-isms are so fricking funny i swear to god

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lol I was trying to figure out what that meant. I thought he did some sort of comedy skit where he literally poured cold water on an EV causing it to blow up or something.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      oops forgot link
      https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/motoring-news/rowan-atkinson-blamed-for-slumping-electric-car-sales/news-story/cc709061b0606f1d4ac4318ff0d2721f
      2/2
      >Volkswagen has mothballed plans to build more battery factories as demand in Europe slumped according to a report from Reuters.

      >US maker GM has also slashed its electric vehicle targets as buyers shun the vehicles for conventional powered cars.

      >Australia faces similar challenges to the UK where electric cars often cost tens of thousands more than petrol equivalents and public charging infrastructure is extremely inadequate for mass adoption.

      >In Australia sales of electric cars jumped by 161 per cent in 2023 with more than 87,000 EVs finding a new home.

      >Tesla and emerging brand BYD led the charge accounting for more than 58,000 sales between them.

      >Head of the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries Tony Weber says the latest January sales figures show Australia’s growing preference for big cars powered by petrol and diesel.

      >“Even with the current incentives offered by the Commonwealth and State and Territory Governments, sales of battery electric vehicles appear to have plateaued during recent months.”

      >Sales of electric cars only grew by 0.8 per cent in January compared to the same month in 2023.

      >Electric vehicle sales have softened in part because of logistic hassles for Tesla, which had to turn around a ship carrying thousands of cars due to biosecurity concerns. The brand also had to pause deliveries of the Model 3 to rectify child seat trouble in the latest model.

      >tell the truth
      >people widen up over your EV money laundering scheme
      >wtf you can't do that

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        So he stated obvious facts so he's evil?

        They don't like when people use their influence against their agenda.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      oops forgot link
      https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/motoring-news/rowan-atkinson-blamed-for-slumping-electric-car-sales/news-story/cc709061b0606f1d4ac4318ff0d2721f
      2/2
      >Volkswagen has mothballed plans to build more battery factories as demand in Europe slumped according to a report from Reuters.

      >US maker GM has also slashed its electric vehicle targets as buyers shun the vehicles for conventional powered cars.

      >Australia faces similar challenges to the UK where electric cars often cost tens of thousands more than petrol equivalents and public charging infrastructure is extremely inadequate for mass adoption.

      >In Australia sales of electric cars jumped by 161 per cent in 2023 with more than 87,000 EVs finding a new home.

      >Tesla and emerging brand BYD led the charge accounting for more than 58,000 sales between them.

      >Head of the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries Tony Weber says the latest January sales figures show Australia’s growing preference for big cars powered by petrol and diesel.

      >“Even with the current incentives offered by the Commonwealth and State and Territory Governments, sales of battery electric vehicles appear to have plateaued during recent months.”

      >Sales of electric cars only grew by 0.8 per cent in January compared to the same month in 2023.

      >Electric vehicle sales have softened in part because of logistic hassles for Tesla, which had to turn around a ship carrying thousands of cars due to biosecurity concerns. The brand also had to pause deliveries of the Model 3 to rectify child seat trouble in the latest model.

      So he stated obvious facts so he's evil?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >which has been roundly debunked.
      >elements such as the manufacturing and the mining of rare earth minerals, shipping and building of the batteries
      Lol, do these people even read what they write? How did they debunk the facts that lithium has to be mined-shipped-refined-shipped-made into a battery-shipped-put in a car-shipped? Or that Cobalt is essential for the stabilization of lithium and that's mined by slave labor in the Congo? They "debunked" that too? Who are these "fact checkers"?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Or that Cobalt is essential for the stabilization of lithium
        Anon, NMC hasn't been the 'cutting edge' for batteries in 5 years.
        LFP batteries don't use cobalt at all, and neither do the semi-solid or solid-state batteries.
        Lithium isn't even the only option now since sodium ion is starting to get used.

        Meanwhile, cobalt remains absolutely essential for oil refineries, and they are a lot less picky about the source.
        When was the last time you asked if your gas or diesel were ethically sourced.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >public perception of electric cars
      has been in the bin forever, they just couldn't ognore someone as big as Rowan talking shit about their little pet project

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >High power costs in the UK can also mean fast charging your electric car can be more expensive than refuelling a petrol or diesel vehicle.

      Yes, but it’s totally Mr. Bean’s fault Bongs aren’t buying vehicles and not matters of practicality or economic sense for the end user. Totally.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      others have pointed it out, but it is really so disgusting how the word "debunked" means "we insist the current narrative is correct, and we refuse to elaborate further"

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If these morons in charge actually focused on making cheap electric energy via nuclear or other methods maybe more people would buy their cuckmobiles, at least it would make economic sense. But no, you have to save ze environment and pay extra for the privilege

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aren't the Tories trying to do those modular nuclear power plants?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Probably not enough embezzlement built into the contract for them to bother.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    thanks, mr. skunk

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      thanks mr skunk

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      TY Mr skunk

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thank mr skunk

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      thanks, mr. skunk

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

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    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

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    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

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  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >A new skit features Mr.Bean accidentally setting A BYD factory alight after trying to make a cup of tea and spilling boiling water into an open battery pack next to multiple containers or flammable liquids.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Holy frick I love Mr. Bean

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ev sisters???

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Haven't had to replace tires on my Tesla yet, but then I bought one of the lightest weight mass production cars they've made. Even over the last 7 years Model 3s have put on another few hundred pounds.
      EVs don't chew through tires any faster than any other vehicle of the same weight unless you mess with the traction control, and most EVs weigh about the same as other cars in the same class from the same year.

      Regulations need to be discouraging ownership of heavy vehicles generally, and there need to be incentives to drive sensible lightweight cars again.
      Big SUVs and Crossovers are like second-hand smoke. They're a danger not just to their owners who are mostly not competent to operate a vehicle, let alone a vehicle that heavy, but to everyone else on the road.
      Until you have a few years of safe driving experience, you shouldn't be allowed to operate a vehicle over 2200lbs, and any infraction of distracted driving due to a phone should put that restriction back in place.
      With added fees for road damage accessed based on vehicle weight over 2200lbs.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >of the same weight
        We know fatso
        Your 2ton+ memes chew through wheels way faster than any similarly sized car

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          EVs of the same size weigh about the same as their same year / same class internal combustion counter parts.
          EVs are only heavy, because regulators have allowed most modern cars to get heavy, and inexperienced drivers especially buy bigger heavier vehicles because it makes them feel 'safer' even though statistically larger and heavier vehicles are more dangerous for the drivers, the occupants, and everyone else on the road.

          You wouldn't allow a new pilot to fly a 747, they have to fly light planes first to get the grasp of the fundamentals.
          Same deal with cars. Once you have 2000 hours driving a light car, then you can drive something heavier if you need it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            cope

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You might not like it, but there are new 2 seat internal combustion engine cars, that weigh more than the 5 seat electric cars of a few years ago that people constantly complained were too heavy and would eat tires.
            This bloating is a serious problem, and not confined to EVs. Something needs to be done about it because it is a serious problem that drives up infrastructure costs, and leads to higher taxes.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >another wall of cope

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You type like a bot mate
            404
            Kys boring c**t

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Gay, any vehicle over 1200kg is a fricking bus
            Keep your chinkshit hairdryer dickhead
            EVs are the trannies of the automotive world

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You might not like it, but there are new 2 seat internal combustion engine cars, that weigh more than the 5 seat electric cars of a few years ago that people constantly complained were too heavy and would eat tires.
            This bloating is a serious problem, and not confined to EVs. Something needs to be done about it because it is a serious problem that drives up infrastructure costs, and leads to higher taxes.

            >Lotus Elise - 2043lbs
            >Tesla Roadster - 2690lbs
            Wow, it's almost if you're outright lying.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The original Tesla Roadster was 15 years ago. It had a 117Wh/kg battery pack, and it wasn't designed as an EV, it was a Lotus with a battery pack shoe horned into it. Of course it was heavier.
            Battery technology and EV design has moved on quite a bit since then.

            Compare the 2024 BMW 3 series and the Model 3. 3500-4150lbs for the 3 series, and 3850-4050lbs for the Model 3.
            Where the new Model 3 cheaps out at the low end with heavier batteries, but at the high end they've shed some weight.
            The older Model 3 SR+ weighed 3600 pounds, the current Nissan Z weighs 3700, and the current BMW M2 weighs 3800lbs.

            All new cars are getting heavier. This isn't unique to EVs.
            Also frick you for bringing up Lotus and reminding me what China is doing to them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Chinamen own Lotus?

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >EVs are better then normal cars in every way
    >lol no they're not, I lord bean of based subjected myself to one in order to tell you this.
    >Hoes mad
    mfw

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >wind up on death row with BUTCH MCDICK

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Merci, Mr. Bean.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you, Mr. Bean

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He actually has a really high IQ. I think it's 180.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think he has a master's/PhD in electrical or mechanical engineering

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        bachelors in EE, masters in control systems.

        [...]

        Rowan's column provided basically no data on how much worse EVs are for the environment he just listed their disadvantages without any comparative numbers. Every ICE/EV environment debate consists of qualitative shitflinging about how X has [a disadvantage] therefore its worthless.

        It was an op ed in the news. Should be easy to prove him wrong with quant then, right? The deboonking didn't use any serious data either. He lists some blatanly obvious limitation. And Mr Bean includes ways in which these limitations might be overcome or approached in the future.

        In fact his central claim, of tailpipe vs lifetime impact and life cycle is one the EV companies are very aware of.

        .

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >In fact his central claim, of tailpipe vs lifetime impact and life cycle is one the EV companies are very aware of.
          So are most EV owners. Uptake of solar panels by owners of EVs, and the reverse of EV uptake by owners of solar panels are both very high.
          The big problem is the trend towards heavier cars, that need higher capacity batteries.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I kneel bean sama

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >House of Lords
    stealing that for a band name

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the house of lords should all be put in gibbets for wasting so much fricking time and money on such a stupid inquiry. holy frick.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nothing new, remember the cones hotline?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't Atkinson legit, he was like 2nd or 3rd on top gears celebrity car thing right? I wouldn't put him behind the wheel now though, dude must be like 80. ITS FRICKING OVER

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The reason he did well is because he's an amateur racing driver. He's still racing at Goodwood and stuff

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bean sabine
    bean sabine
    bean sabine

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"Baldrick, do you mean to tell me that you simply mashed a bin full of used batteries together with chewing gum and stuffed it into this plastic monstrosity?"
    >"Don't worry, m'lord! I've got a cunning plan."
    >"No, no, I think I've had enough of your pla-"
    >"I already have a buyer, sir."
    >"What?"
    >"A buyer, sir. I've actually got about 20,000 buyers this quarter alone."
    >"...Baldrick, these buyers wouldn't happen to be the ants picking at the leftover sugar in the chewing gum, would they?"
    >"No, sir. They're Indian people."
    >"What?"
    >"Indian people, sir. I told e'm it was a wagon and they said they'd pay me."
    >"They said they'd pay you? They buy this thing you made? For how much, a goat and a handful of shiny rocks?"
    >"About 40,000 quid, sir."
    >"...Baldrick, these people haven't the money to use a lavatory in private, I don't think they're going to-"
    >"I've already thought that out, sir. You see, they go to the bank in order to get a loan, and then they slowly pay back the bank over the course of the next two decades."

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very nicely done Anon

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you, Mr. Bean

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    HOW CAN ONE MAN HAVE SO MUCH POWER

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rowan is simply wrong in terms of CO2 emissions. You can make an argument for not having enough lithium in the world or rare earth metal or whatever but i can't really find good numbers on these.

    There are good numbers on CO2 emissions out there and assuming you live in the Western world an EV will absolutely, without question produce less CO2 over the course of its life including manufacture than ICE. For reference the UK energy mix is only slightly higher than germany at 350 g CO2/kwh.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day, treefricker.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why would you want less co2?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because I'm not a plant

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you exist because of plants.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Humans, and really mammals have never existed on this planet when CO2 levels were as high as they were before fossil carbon started getting sequestered in fossil fuel deposits.
            High CO2 levels have detrimental effects on human cognition, and ability to get anything done.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >uhhh if you drive a car for 20 years then buy a new car and combine the emissions for both then its a bit more than an EV!!!!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        its cumulative for both new ICE and EV so it is a fair comparison.

        >bit more
        20% is not "a bit", this graph also completely ignores the energy grid becoming more green over time which strongly benefits the EV and further increases that gap

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >green
          frick off communist homosexual

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            green

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ironically, you literally cannot drive an EV for 20 years.
        The batteries will be flat in half that time, requiring a new battery which is typically half the original cost of the EV and is the most environmentally damaging thing to produce. Almost nobody is willing to put 10-20k into a decade old car, so they'll just buy a new one.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There are still OG Roadsters from 15 years ago driving on their original batteries and those are the worst batteries you could get in an EV.
          Modern LFP batteries can do 3000 cycles. That is easily a 20 year battery in a car, followed by further secondary uses like home storage.

          Lets say just for the sake of argument that every EV battery does drop dead at 10. The difference between making a new battery for an EV, and the fuel input to a gas car means the difference is going to be made up in a year or less. Because the big determining factor in the emissions is the amount of stuff that needs to be extracted, and transported.
          A battery pack may weigh 1000 lbs, but an EV running off of clean energy like nuclear power needs no further input. A gas car under normal use burns 2000lbs of fuel every single year.
          After 10 years the EV still has that 1000lbs battery, and the gas car has burned 20000lbs of fuel. Even if the EV runs off peak electricity from natural gas some of the time, or even coal all of the time, it can still come out ahead, even after putting a new 1000lbs battery in.

          EV battery swaps are going to happen, because just like today Enthusiasts prefer to work on older cars, and a 2017 Model 3 getting a circa 2035 battery pack installed into it with software from a tuning company like Unplugged, or Mountain Pass, is going to be a monster.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Modern LFP batteries can do 3000 cycles
            On top of being less energy dense than lithium ion batteries, lfp is a heavier substrate. So you're going to need a heavier battery for less range. As for the environmental impact, metal purification is one of the most toxic industries there is. Heavy duty acids, neurotoxins, and in Some cases cyanide is used. Lithium is a particularly dirty purification process. But ok shill

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >metal purification is one of the most toxic industries there is.
            Not denying that. What are some of the other extremely toxic industries though?
            Fossil fuel extraction and refining is going to be on that list as well, and far more of them are needed to run a gas car.

            >Lithium is a particularly dirty purification process.
            I think your information is outdated. The process involving evaporation was particularly dirty, but it was also inefficient and not cost effective.
            Not going to say the roll out is 100%, but the improved processes cost less, produce more lithium, and a less of an impact.
            Just one of the ways that cleaning up our act can actually increase revenue, which is why Capitalism is pushing EVs forward.

            >So you're going to need a heavier battery for less range.
            True, but even there the 60kWh battery in the current base Model 3 only put on about 300lbs compared to the old 56kWh Model 3, and not all of that was battery, some of that was for more 'safety' regulations.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I think your information is outdated
            No it isn't. Lithium being a group 1 alkali metal, and therefore being one of the most reactive metals on earth ( really only being beaten out by other group 1 alkali metals) is actually a pretty constant rule in chemistry. Stop taking a condescending tone when you're a moron.

            >'safety' regulations
            Aka teslas were blowing up randomly and killing their occupants.

            Frick you and your wannabe college professor "I'm just here to educate you" bullshit attitude. You're pushing a product, stop acting like you're doing me a favor.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No. The change is that instead of evaporating brine in pools exposing workers to it, and losing a sizable amount of it down wind. It gets extracted from the brine directly with membranes.
            No more evaporation means no more unskilled worker exposure, the concentrated lithium is kept contained.

            >Aka teslas were blowing up
            No. The same safety rules for impacts with SUVs that keep making every new car heavier.
            EV fires, including spontaneous ignition, happen at a much lower rate than fires for other cars.

            Sorry anon. If you don't like being corrected. Stop being wrong. Stay up to date, and get your information from unbiased sources.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No more evaporation means no more unskilled worker exposure
            I don't care about that. It's also not what we were even talking about. So you admit evs spontaneously combust?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >So you admit evs spontaneously combust?
            Any car can. There have been less than 500 instances of a HV battery fire. 9 out of 10 EV fires do not involve the HV battery and could happen with any vehicle. EVs have fires at a much lower rate than internal combustion cars because they generate less heat, and do not have a flammable liquid that can easily leak onto hot components.

            The biggest issue with EV fires, is that they are so rare that firefighters can expect to only encounter one in their career, and training is still uncommon. It doesn't help that there are people spreading myths and disinformation about them constantly.

            >Argument gets smacked down
            >T-that's not what I care about!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Any car can
            No

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >could happen with any vehicle
            And yet it doesn't. Interesting.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Any car can.
            I've been driving 20 years, done long haul trucking, short range delivery and taxi driving. I've probably done 2 or 3 million miles behind the wheel and I've never seen a single car on fire, nor really heard of any that weren't deliberately set on fire by junkies.
            That was until all the parking garages started refusing entry to EVs because of fire risk

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >That was until all the parking garages started refusing entry to EVs because of fire risk
            A few garages because of media hype. The most reported parking garage fire that kicked those off, was started by an internal combustion SUV.
            Recall notices for fire risk go out all the time. They aren't unique to electric cars, they're just more publicized for them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            A parking garage in London burned down like a month ago because a hybrid range rover had a runaway battery

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            EXPLODING ELECTRIC VEHICLES BURNING DOWN ENTIRE BUILDINGS IS JUST PART AND PARCEL OF LIVING IN A BIG CITY.

            TAKE THE SUBWAY OR THE BUS IF YOU DON'T LIKE USING PARKING GARAGES. THEY'RE PERFECTLY SAFE, DON'T BE ISLAMAPHOBIC.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sodium batteries just became commercially available as well, in less than a decade these morons won't even have "muh lithium, muh cobalt" as an excuse anymore

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's with all this chatter with EVs and everything when the problem has been solved already?

    Hybrids
    >less wear on the ICE components in slow speeds
    >regen braking to save on gas
    >don't need to charge the stupid thing

    I don't get it guys. Am I missing something here?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      big lithium

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of y'all seem to assume that EVs are some kind of static technology. They went from jokes to contenders in a decade and they'll keep improving.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >y'all
      subtle, i like it

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      German here, that's exactly the suburb cuck habitat that only absolutely obnoxious buttholes populate. BTW there's a Fabia 1 Diesel with over a million KM and that guy only stopped driving because the emission regulation of his city got too strict. That Fabia was completely original with only maintenance parts changed. Fricking Tesla homosexuals acting like they're special all the fricking hime.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Battery pack replacements check out for that mileage considering the chemistry, but those early Model S motors were known to have bad bearings and it's more of a Tesla problem that they kept swapping in motors with bad bearings
      iirc everything was done under warranty and he didn't pay anything for those replacements. Old Model S so he got free fast charging for life as well. His only cost to drive that distance was tires, pretty wild

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tesla were really pro-active about some of those replacements too because high-mileage Model S was such a rare thing, and the engineers wanted them as references for real-world wear and tear.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tesla were really pro-active about some of those replacements too because high-mileage Model S was such a rare thing, and the engineers wanted them as references for real-world wear and tear.

        not so fast shills

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No doubt, Tesla and other car manufacturers should definitely be held to account for this kind of shit.
          There is definitely a difference from now Tesla acted early on when it was still more culturally the company Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning founded, and the company Elon Musk has turned it into.
          The board should oust Elon and send him packing.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOOO DON'T TELL THEM THE TRUTH
    fricking 'ews

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Holy based Bean

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That yours? Not shitting on you if it isn't, I just dig the pic.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not mine, I just really like them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nice pic, reminds me of my childhood
      i havent been outside in a long time...

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    who cares what some loser uneducated actor cares about the real truth that evs are the future

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Using data from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS) and government recall information, AutoinsuranceEZ indicated fires by vehicle type:
    >ICE vehicles caught fire at 1,530 incidents per 100,000 vehicles.
    >BEV vehicles caught fire at 25 incidents per 100,000 vehicles.

    ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Combustion engine fires are caused by major accidents and span decades worth of vehicles. Can be put out with water. Small fuel leak fires that cause no damage are included in statistics.
      >EV battery fires can be caused by accidents, or by just sitting around, only span a few years worth of vehicles. Can only be put out with special equipment and can reignite multiple times over the course of several months.
      There are no small fires, every battery fire is catastrophic.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        would you rather 1 EV car on fire or 60 ICE cars on fire

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          60 combustion vehicles on fire is a ~~*peaceful protest*~~
          The fact that you have to compare that to a single EV fire says a lot about the severity of battery fires.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think it is more he was just expecting you to do math. Internal combustion fires were 60 times more likely.
            Only 1 in 10 EV fires involve the high voltage battery, and even more rare is the full thermal runaway you're talking about.

            It was basically a BYD problem, because they couldn't make NMC cells right. Now they use LFP.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >no you don't get it, burning lithium batteries is safe and effective!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the comparison is simply the frequency difference between fires

            >Water does not extinguish Class B fires (i.e. GASOLINE) and can spread the flammable liquid, making it worse

            Virtually every vehicle fire, ICE or EV will require a response from the fire department. Lets be generous and pretend 30% of ICE fires just magically put themselves out without the fire department do you seriously think we'd be better off dealing with FORTY times the incidents.

            You know what else has had a 40 fold decrease, the aviation fatality rate. Since an airbus crashing is a big deal, we should all go back to interwar biplanes right?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Aviation fatality rate is going to take a large spike soon due to federal incentives forcing us to take on unskilled minorities
            t. aviation insider

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >oy vey, our hands are tied! We need the FAA to loosen regulations!!
            Airjews must be resisted at every opportunity. You WILL accept the new contract. You WILL pay me double. You WILL NOT outsource my job to saars

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        maybe Elon is megabased and he's purposely designing his cars to kill the soibois that buy them

        /b/ told me they're writing new code into nu-Twitter that gives users brain and eye cancer too

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