Best new V8 car?

As a single man in his early 20s, which new car with a V8 would you get?
>Plan to keep it forever and basically run it until it dies.
>Don't plan to track the car, just want a daily driver with V8 refinement.

Would you get a muscle car, like Camaro SS or Mustang GT?
>Would get in manual
>Two door coupe, don't really need more space than this at the moment, but could change in the future
Or a Lexus IS 500?
>No manual option, I feel like I will regret an auto
>Reliable car, will last 20 years / 300k+ miles
>Unique; not many of it on the road

>inb4 no one cross-shops these cars

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I should say <$70k lel.
      If I could spend $100k+ I'd get the CT5-V Blackwing.

      Speaking of which, if they made the CT4-V Blackwing with a naturally aspirated V8 instead of a twin turbo v6, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Speaking of which, if they made the CT4-V Blackwing with a naturally aspirated V8 instead of a twin turbo v6, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
        Chevy SS sedan manual for about 55k, auto for high 30's to 40k.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          too old and ugly

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this isn't just the best new V8 car, it's the best sedan ever made, period. unfortunately they were discontinued last year and you can no longer purchase them new. the next one will be a hybrid and weigh around 6000 lbs.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's the best sedan ever made,
        >turbo

        Check yourself gay

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          just did, looks like i'm still right.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

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      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      https://i.imgur.com/KoNj4PC.jpg

      As a single man in his early 20s, which new car with a V8 would you get?
      >Plan to keep it forever and basically run it until it dies.
      >Don't plan to track the car, just want a daily driver with V8 refinement.

      Would you get a muscle car, like Camaro SS or Mustang GT?
      >Would get in manual
      >Two door coupe, don't really need more space than this at the moment, but could change in the future
      Or a Lexus IS 500?
      >No manual option, I feel like I will regret an auto
      >Reliable car, will last 20 years / 300k+ miles
      >Unique; not many of it on the road

      >inb4 no one cross-shops these cars

      Honestly in your early 20s I wouldn't get a new V8, I'd go through a bunch of used ones that are interesting.

      I bought a used LC500 sport a year ago and it's a very nice GT (and I think the best of the V8 lexus offerings), but I don't think it'll ever stand out in the history of great V8s to be honest - or even great GTs. I sold mine after about 6 months.

      There are so many interesting V8s through the decades that, were I you, I'd start to work through the ones that are interesting and keep each for a year or two.

      Also, why only V8s? There are plenty of spirited V6s worth trying, and everyone needs to have owned at least one V12 (ideally not in a glorified limo).

      And, you do need to try a few M cars. I'd go for M6s over M5s, but it depends on how much space you needs. Props to the E90 too, It's a very fun car and worth owning. I'd say the same about the E60 M5/6 too if you can find one that you know has been maintained.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'd say the same about the E60 M5/6 too if you can find one that you know has been maintained
        Ugly.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My heart says Lexus but my brain says Camaro haha.
    What I mean is that the driving dynamic is probably far better in a Camaro, and it suits my needs better, but man, the Lexus looks beautiful but not over the top aggressive, and it's definitely a rare car on the road.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Audi RS6, easily mogs the Lexus in performance and practicality, BMW M5 CS if you want RWD.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry, read

      I should say <$70k lel.
      If I could spend $100k+ I'd get the CT5-V Blackwing.

      Speaking of which, if they made the CT4-V Blackwing with a naturally aspirated V8 instead of a twin turbo v6, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

      , I am not that rich haha.
      Just looking for something premium, not six figure luxury car.
      But yes RS6 is really cool.
      In any case I am not looking for a performance track car, I know the Germans mog Lexus to oblivion with that. Just a daily driver.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh in that case, the IS500 is your best bet.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I don't think you can go wrong with the Lexus.
          Any reason why you would get it over a Mustang or Camaro with 6MT? Plus the American muscle are probably $10k cheaper.
          Personally I feel like now is the time to get the IS 500, an NA V8 sedan, a dying breed...
          I guess I can get a cheap, used mustang or camaro any time I want in the future (there are tens of thousands of them) if I crave something more fun.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Its more subtle and mature and even as a non-weeb, I would rest my faith in the Made in Japan plastics of the Lexus rather than whatever Ford/Chevy molded together from the same plastic supplier. The IS500 will be comfier on drives too but have a big burbling V8 to pull like a train, really I like to think of the IS500 as a modern day C63 W204

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t understand why manufacturers are suddenly pretending V8 cars are luxury or need to be priced into the stratosphere, it’s the bare minimum to be desirable.

    It’s no secret why trucks are taking over.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>Plan to keep it forever and basically run it until it dies.
    Is500

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      or a Panther. will outlast everything.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Lexus IS 500
    Have they updated the interior?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Idc about the interior haha, if anything an older one is better. It had the essentials. They made the screen touch screen instead of trackpad

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They won't because they have no suitable platform for a new gen.
      They planned to turn the next gen into an EV, but it seems like those plans might have been cancelled and the EV Prius-like ZC concept they showed last year will pwk4
      replace it.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>Two door coupe, don't really need more space than this at the moment, but could change in the future
    Why do you think that would change?

    >>No manual option, I feel like I will regret an auto
    If it's that big of a deal for you, then just pass on any Lexus. People will either grow to accept automatics as the superior choice for practical driving or they'll hate it and would rather have an anemic 4cyl as long as it's manual. There's really no in-between.

    car, will last 20 years / 300k+ miles
    Do you plan on keeping it for that long?

    ; not many of it on the road
    Most people will just see it as another Lexus sedan.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for all the responses...

      >Why do you think that would change?
      I don't know haha, people generally have more responsibilities as they get older, more interests. Maybe I meet new people I want to spend time with. This usually means more space is needed. A Camaro or Mustang can be said to be just toy cars, where you should have a decent sized car otherwise.
      >There's really no in-between.
      I think a cheap manual but a brand new daily like the IS 500 could be the solution. As opposed to the other way around.
      >Most people will just see it as another Lexus sedan.
      Meh I don't care what it means to others... To me it's one of the last V8 sedans of our time. That's its special factor.

      Mustang Gt. It's the people's car to this day. Relatively cheap, plentiful parts, decently reliable. Get the comfort trim. You'll probably want other cars down the line so I wouldn't recommend spending big money. You have to be faithful to your woman, but you can get new cars.

      Yeah I heard that the Mustang does have enough space to be your only car though, contrary to what some might think.

      Agree with this anon.

      OP if you're in your early 20s, you don't actually have a clue what you want 5, 10, 20 years from now. You may think you do, but all humans are ADHD morons and you'll want a different car in 2 years. You'll be bored of whatever you get and want something else, or you'll find a GF and want/get pressured into a RAV4, or have kids, etc.

      So this is nothing but a fanciful thought exercise.

      I dunno, I really like the idea of keeping one car till it dies, something I can keep forever. I feel like this is how it was meant to be. Constantly trading in and financing new cars is a israeli plot.
      But you're right. interests change. The only issue is that a new V8 sedan or even new muscle cars won't be a thing in the future when I want something else. I don't want to settle for mediocre stuff now, because there won't be good new stuff in the future. Get em while they're hot.

      >As a single man in his early 20s
      Don't get a lexus lol wtf

      coastal attitude to various brands

      flyover attitude towards various kinds of cars
      Note the patterns.

      Don't care. I'm not buying a car to impress women and you shouldn't either.

      I’ve been driving for 16 years now and I’ve been driving the same vehicle for 13 years that I wanted when I first started driving.

      I’ve also added several other vehicles to my fleet since then that are also fun and cool.

      Moral of the story, buy cool shit that you want the first time, don’t settle for lame shit.

      This. I want a fleet of cars I love. I don't want to keep trading in stuff when I get bored.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Get the damn car, I bought a V8 M6 SS sedan in 2017 out of college, paid it off in 3 years.

        Just do it, No 4/6 cylinder shitbox will ever be as good as a V8.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >monkey brain post
          i6 turbo is the creamiest combo

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Inline 6s are a poor cope used in base model shitboxes and turbos are for manufacturers that don’t have the technology to build appropriately sized engines.

            The most desirable 3 series had a V8 and the most desirable 5 series had a V10, everything since then is a cope.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >cope
            >desirable
            Female-tier argument. I've had a ton of cars including multiple V8s and the best motor by far for grunt and smoothness was the barra turbo 6.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the most 'desirable' M3 had a V8 with 295 ft lbs of torque at the crank, but the latest M5 with a V8 and 550 ft lbs at the wheels is a 'cope'

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I like vans

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >b-b-buh muh turbo 6 is faster therefore better
            >b-b-buh muh twin turbo supercharger 0.75L 4 cylinder is faster therefore better
            >b-b-buh muh electric appliance is faster therefore better <—- the cope is currently here

            4/6 cylinders will always be cope engines for the poor. Even a 150hp 1980s emissions V8 is better than 4/6 cylinder copelets

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Even a 150hp 1980s emissions V8 is better than 4/6 cylinder copelets
            Slowgay cope

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            kek no one wants the e60. they're the cheapest M5s you can buy. The most desirable M5 is the E28 followed by the E39.
            The E92 is my favorite M3 though, regardless of everyone else thinking the E46 is the best.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mustang Gt. It's the people's car to this day. Relatively cheap, plentiful parts, decently reliable. Get the comfort trim. You'll probably want other cars down the line so I wouldn't recommend spending big money. You have to be faithful to your woman, but you can get new cars.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agree with this anon.

      OP if you're in your early 20s, you don't actually have a clue what you want 5, 10, 20 years from now. You may think you do, but all humans are ADHD morons and you'll want a different car in 2 years. You'll be bored of whatever you get and want something else, or you'll find a GF and want/get pressured into a RAV4, or have kids, etc.

      So this is nothing but a fanciful thought exercise.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Heard a thing on the carmudgeon show where they agreed that most guys want cars they liked when they were 12 years old. I think that's mostly true. Mostly.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’ve been driving for 16 years now and I’ve been driving the same vehicle for 13 years that I wanted when I first started driving.

        I’ve also added several other vehicles to my fleet since then that are also fun and cool.

        Moral of the story, buy cool shit that you want the first time, don’t settle for lame shit.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I drive a IS500 occasionally. it's comfy af

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >As a single man in his early 20s
    Don't get a lexus lol wtf

    coastal attitude to various brands

    flyover attitude towards various kinds of cars
    Note the patterns.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >BMW
      10 & 8
      >Lexus
      "i didnt even kno what that was"
      >Infiniti
      "dont pull up at my house"

      oh boy looks like we're staying KHVS nipponbros

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          manface and ugly lmfao

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just get a single owner low mileage e90 m3 or whatever used m5 you can afford
    >inb4 hurt durrr Dey all have 20 owners

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And get the rod bearings changed. Seriously.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >V8 refinement
    Woman thinking.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. Poor cylinder consoomer

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >V8 refinement.
      then you want an i6 instead.
      v8 is inherently unbalanced, i6 is perfectly balanced

      look at bmws, at least 1 gen old so you get the old iDrive and physical buttons
      3/4/5 series could all work for you. for my money, aim for a 5 series for the extra space/soundproofing/etc, but if you're set on a 2door, 4 series will work, 3 series too if you go old enough
      not sure how far back you'd need to go for a manual, but you can definitely find them.

      Oh I thought more cylinders = more refined/smoother? I guess I am just dumb. I only thought inline 6 was more refined than a V6 but not a V8.
      In any case I want a V8 lol. The sound is unbeatable.
      Old BMWs are an option, but I'm not so knowledgeable about cars, I feel like I will just get a money pit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Oh I thought more cylinders = more refined/smoother?
        >I only thought inline 6 was more refined than a V6 but not a V8.
        nope.
        i6 is literally perfect, both primary and secondary balance are perfect.
        same for a v12, which is 2 i6s glued together in a v

        >In any case I want a V8 lol. The sound is unbeatable.
        its your money, your choice

        >Old BMWs are an option, but I'm not so knowledgeable about cars, I feel like I will just get a money pit.
        they are definitely money pits, but fairly reliable if you keep up with the maintenance.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          aren't crossplane 90° v8s balanced?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            nope.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Any car is a money pit eventually if you take it to the wrong shop (eg dealer) and hardly any car is a money pit if you diy it and don’t buy unnecessary tools

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That’s stupid, I have taken multiple cars from brand new to 200k miles, there’s a big difference between something that just runs with oil changes, brakes, and tires for the entire 200k miles and another car that I need to pull out of service to replace some $250 part every 4-5k miles.

          As someone that has pulled an engine all the way down and out of a vehicle, put back together and run, you eventually get to a point in your life where your time is worth more than fixing a car.
          If you need a wrench for anything more than the oil drain, brakes, and lug nuts in the first 200k miles then it’s a piece of shit

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >200k on OE air filter, diff fluid, transmission fluid, and fuel pump
            >this is fine

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sure air filter but the average consumer (not that it’s right) isn’t changing any of those fluids. Also a fuel pump is not a wear item, it should last the life of the vehicle.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Idk, I though 120-150k was pretty standard for fuel pumps. Wheel bearings and shocks will probably need replacement too. Plenty of standard maintenance items that need to be completed over the life of a car. But it depends on the car's age in years as well.
            Dumbasses let shady mechanics take them for a ride all the time even on legit items. Come up north, brake lines and fuel lines are wear items too.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            those aren't fun to drive cars. you're talking about a camry ffs

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >V8 refinement.
    then you want an i6 instead.
    v8 is inherently unbalanced, i6 is perfectly balanced

    look at bmws, at least 1 gen old so you get the old iDrive and physical buttons
    3/4/5 series could all work for you. for my money, aim for a 5 series for the extra space/soundproofing/etc, but if you're set on a 2door, 4 series will work, 3 series too if you go old enough
    not sure how far back you'd need to go for a manual, but you can definitely find them.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    superduty f250 with the 7.3 godzilla would be my pick tbh op

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pic related. One of these days it really will be last of the v8s.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I feel like I will regret an auto
    >clutch in clutch out clutch in clutch out
    >repeat for 20 years
    Get real. Manual gays are just posers and fart-sniffers. Modern autos have rendered manuals obsolete

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 40 and have driven manuals for 23 years. I'd still choose one over an auto any day because it feels good to drive.

      You're either driving dogshit cars, or your rotten brain has had all its dopamine receptors burned out by watching too much transsexual porn.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >your rotten brain has had all its dopamine receptors burned out by watching too much transsexual porn.
        speaking from experience?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You're either driving dogshit cars, or your rotten brain has had all its dopamine receptors burned out by watching too much transsexual porn
        Getting emotional shows that you know you're wrong and don't like having it pointed out. There is a reason autos have taken over the market. They're better

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mercedes AMG SL 55

  18. 2 months ago
    p

    Daily reminder: if car is over 4000lbs, stance acceptable

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I should say <$70k lel.

    I'd get a lightly used Lexus LC. 470 HP V8, RWD, looks great, and Toyota reliability so it should last you a long time. And its almost guaranteed to be a collectible.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >looks great

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i saw one of these in person last summer, it's a looker. really stands out and has crazy presence irl.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i've seen a bunch in person they're always driven by nerdballs on account of how nerdy they look

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't like how huge the grill is and how it goes all the way to the ground; but aside from that I think its pretty great. As for the giant grill I think it looks better on the LC than it does on Lexus sedans or SUVs even though I would like a strip of painted body work running through it and/or under it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They’re depreciating like a rock

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The cheapest new c8 you can find in your area. Runs great, feels great, and attracts women.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    E55

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i am considering buying an is 350 or rc 350 because i cannot afford the v8

    is it dumb?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't say so. Only getting an IS300 with the turbo 4 banger is dumb.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you just want a daily driver they're great cars. How often do you stomp the pedal anyway?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        not often. i have an i4 anyway. its a snail

        theres also the gs350. but its discontinued idk how easy it will be to find

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing new. W211 E55. All you'll ever need.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Since you're still in your 20s, I would go with the Camaro or the Mustang. You should be having these types of cars at this point in your life. Lexus is for when you start getting a bit older, at least 30.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gonna skip the Mustang/camaro step and get an is350 f sport, then just get a Porsche 911 15-20 years from now instead. I’ll never buy a pony/muscle car used and the new ones terrible, the Camaro for visibility and the S650’s shitty touch screen

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        skip the lexus and get a borsch gayman

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Excellent plan, you are on the path to success.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      [...]
      Honestly in your early 20s I wouldn't get a new V8, I'd go through a bunch of used ones that are interesting.

      I bought a used LC500 sport a year ago and it's a very nice GT (and I think the best of the V8 lexus offerings), but I don't think it'll ever stand out in the history of great V8s to be honest - or even great GTs. I sold mine after about 6 months.

      There are so many interesting V8s through the decades that, were I you, I'd start to work through the ones that are interesting and keep each for a year or two.

      Also, why only V8s? There are plenty of spirited V6s worth trying, and everyone needs to have owned at least one V12 (ideally not in a glorified limo).

      And, you do need to try a few M cars. I'd go for M6s over M5s, but it depends on how much space you needs. Props to the E90 too, It's a very fun car and worth owning. I'd say the same about the E60 M5/6 too if you can find one that you know has been maintained.

      But it's now or never to get a new V8 car. There won't be any more after a few years; I can't just slowly work my way up.
      I don't really need a new car either, it's just that I've only driven high mileage used cars where I've been at the mercy of previous owners with various problems popping up, and I really want to just have something that I own from start to finish.
      >Also, why only V8s?
      The sound and the character, mainly. A large engine that didn't succumb to environmental bullshit rules.
      I'm one of those who'd take a V8 making 150 horsepower over a turbo V6 making 400 lel.

      https://i.imgur.com/94iThKp.jpg

      >Speaking of which, if they made the CT4-V Blackwing with a naturally aspirated V8 instead of a twin turbo v6, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
      Chevy SS sedan manual for about 55k, auto for high 30's to 40k.

      Just a lot of money for an 8 year old car. It's a good option though, same with a Pontiac G5, which is a bit cheaper. Parts are going to be a bit expensive though, even though the SS and G5 are "domestic," a lot of the parts need to be imported from Australia.

      >You should be having these types of cars at this point in your life.
      This is how I feel, too. Every young American should enjoy a muscle car.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        G8* not G5

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    kek someone's OBSESSED with me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You will never be me. But I agree.

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