>buy new tundra. >engine spins a main bearing. >Toyota won't admit it's an issue

>buy new tundra
>engine spins a main bearing.
>Toyota won't admit it's an issue
>Toyota recalls 100% of tundra's sold for "potential engine noise"
>Toyota techs saying this issue is affecting almost every V6 model.
>removing the engine means basically the entire truck has to be pulled apart.

where were you when Toyota became shit?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Should have put a B58 in that. Ironically the most reliable high performance Toyota is a BMW.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is the B58 actually that reliable? Or is it a case of most bmws being such shit with reliability that a decent engine is touted as being amazing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They are pretty reliable so far, iirc the big thing is the same VANOS system that has been around for decades at this point when a o ring fails and it runs like shit but not catastrophic. I do hear that they take to power extremely well so it’s worth it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The latter

        Now you get other issues like the oil pressure sensor going bad and pressurizing oil into the ECU through the harness

        No, they should have kept the 3UR as an offer and put the hybrid/turbo 6 as side options. It's as bad as Nissan eliminating late-era D40s from the lineup in favor of, again, less reliability.
        [...]
        The Ford 6.2 and 7.3 are unironically fairly reliable engines, especially the 7.3. Compare use case with other big truck engines to see what I mean. Ford built the 7.3 for heavy duty fleet work, uhauls, RVs, box trucks, cabovers, trucks that may see 10-15 years of fleet service life and 300k+ miles, all while being exponentially heavier than your average pickup.

        Chevy didn't do the same with their 6.6 gasser, that b***h stays out of the real work trucks.

        6.2 SOHC is criminally underrated. 11-17 F250/350 with the 6.2/6spd Auto are bulletproof.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >pressurizing oil into the ECU through the harness
          How the frick does that work? There's no way that there's an oil capillary tube that runs all the way to the ECU, right?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-eaoZ7ljGW4

            Probably the great quality BMW plastics/glues

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I had to look it up, since I didn't think there was any conceivable way that's actually a thing. Sure enough, the oil can wick through the copper stranding of the wire and wet out the DME plug. That's wild, what a shitbox.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Dumbest video I’ve seen. Typical boomer mechanic.
            >here guys, this bad sensor I changed is seeping oil a bit
            >therefore I think that pressurized oil MAY travel down this harness and make it to the other side of the engine bay where the ECU is located
            >even though I just showed you that there’s a huge gap between the sensor and the black cover and the black cover isn’t even sealed
            moron.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The guy in the video is a shitty boomer mechanic, but it has nothing to do with the black wire cover. The oil seeps through the wire itself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I had this happen with a 7.3 power stroke once. The ICP sensor that monitors the high pressure oil system sprung a leak from the inside to the outside and it managed to push oil up the insulation of the wire all the way to the PCM. Didnt kill it though but I had to replace those wires in the harness

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-eaoZ7ljGW4

          Probably the great quality BMW plastics/glues

          The guy in the video is a shitty boomer mechanic, but it has nothing to do with the black wire cover. The oil seeps through the wire itself.

          I have two BMWs with the exact same oil filter housing design and just checked them both.
          The sensor and the wiring on both are bone dry despite me never even touching that in the 6 years I've owned them.

          >muh pressurized oil going to the ECU
          There is exactly 0% chance of that happening unless you remove the copper inside the wires and somehow route oil through them. Even if the oil was to travel through the outside of the wires it would still have to fight gravity to get up to the ECU.

          Frick you for making me check.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >There is exactly 0% chance of that happening
            It's a documented problem that happens on more vehicles than just the BMWs. It has nothing to do with gravity, genius. Capillary action draws the oil through the wire between the strands and it can wet out plugs at the PCM and cause issues. It's not pumping pressurized oil through the wire, but if the end of a wire stays submerged in oil long enough (i.e leaking pressure sensor), the other end of the wire can get wet, depending on how well the jacket was bonded.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And not only that, it's 40-100psi for hours on end through a 20ga wire. There's a incredible amount of pressure going through the sheathing of that wire that it's not impossible for it to push through.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There's no pressure actually going through the wire. The connector pin is not a sealed interface, and there's no way for the pressure to actually transfer to the wire jacket. It has nothing to do with the pressure, it's just that the leaky sensor causes the connector to always be full of oil, which allows the wicking.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >it's 40-100psi for hours on end through a 20ga wire. There's a incredible amount of pressure going through the sheathing of that wire
            Do you actually think oil travels through oil pressure sensor wires? The absolute state of wrenchlets.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > bmws being such shit with reliability that a decent engine is touted as being amazing
        This is such a Reddit-tier NPC take. BMW engines through the 80s, 90s, and early 00s were always bulletproof, especially the inline 6s.
        Then reliability took a dive when they introduced the first round of turbo engines, but now with the B58 you can say their turbo inline-6 are almost as reliable as the last NA ones like the N52 and M54.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah bulletproof if you ignore every gasket pissing oil immediately after warranty, bomb-like cooling systems that explode violently if you leave them longer than 60-90,000 miles, VANOS shitting the bed and bearing issues on S54/62/65/85...which reddit board are you taking your takes from /r/BMW?

          They quit being reliable after the pressurized cooling systems of the E36/39s and VANOS of the E46s. And honestly BMW never had the best plastics/rubber parts of any of the German car brands.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > every gasket pissing oil immediately after warranty
            Valve cover gasket and oil filter housing gasket every 100k miles. How catastrophic.
            >cooling system
            Water pump, a couple coolant hoses, and maybe a reservoir every 100k miles. How catastrophic.

            Kys wrenchlet.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Im literally comparing it to the Japanese cars I own. The gaskets all suck ass and turn into hard plastic after 60,000 miles. And you missed the fan/fan clutch, thermostat, thermostat housing (plastic), radiator, and it has to be a Behr or OE expansion tank or else it'll go boom too (so $600-700 in parts at least).

            You could just say you like the cars and you're willing to put up with it despite their flaws, but even my Japanese cars went 150-200,000 miles on original radiator and expansion tanks before getting leaks...not violently exploding and leaving you on the side of the road going home.

            Wise. More parts and more pieces prone to failure. An under-stressed NA V8 will drive circles around a turbo'd V6 any day of the week. It's possible to build decent turbo'd engines, big diesels are an example of this, but I wouldn't trust Ford to do anything right. Even the old MZR engines, which are basically the seedling for all of Ford's turbo products, were problematic if you worked them even slightly beyond their engineered parameters (see thrown rods).

            hypermiling homosexuals who care about gas mileage deserve to be shot and dumped in a pit like diseased pigs.

            The Fords are more reliable than their Mazda predecessors but still prone to coolant and oil leaks after 150,000 miles, but this time the packaging means it's gonna cost you $$$ to fix because you can't change twin turbos easily

            The 4cyl Ecoboosts seem okay though...as long as kept stock.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Don't forget eating rod bearings every 100k as well. I used to work at an M3 specialist shop and it was just standard procedure to do the VANOS hub, rod bearings, and subframe reinforcement on every E46 around 100k, and that was a decade ago so I can only imagine the condition they're in now.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >standard procedure to do the VANOS hub, rod bearings, and subframe reinforcement on every E46 around 100k
            High revving NA 6-cyl that puts out more power than most V8s with twice the displacement needs rod bearings every 100K? Oh no what a pile of shit.
            Someone tell BMW to use wakandan vibranium on their rod bearings so they can last 500K miles of 8,000 RPM pulls.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's also the 10w60 oil they spec. I wouldn't doubt if Ford has the same issue on 5.0s running 5w50 regularly (stock spec is 5w20 or 5w30 iirc)

            Hondas have high hp/liter and don't need 100,000 mile rod bearing replacements. Again, it's hard for BMW fanboys to just admit "yeah the cars have their flaws but we love them anyways"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, they should have kept the 3UR as an offer and put the hybrid/turbo 6 as side options. It's as bad as Nissan eliminating late-era D40s from the lineup in favor of, again, less reliability.

      You know the end is near when Toyota is making Ford look good.

      The Ford 6.2 and 7.3 are unironically fairly reliable engines, especially the 7.3. Compare use case with other big truck engines to see what I mean. Ford built the 7.3 for heavy duty fleet work, uhauls, RVs, box trucks, cabovers, trucks that may see 10-15 years of fleet service life and 300k+ miles, all while being exponentially heavier than your average pickup.

      Chevy didn't do the same with their 6.6 gasser, that b***h stays out of the real work trucks.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Ford gassers aren't half bad. The default transmission shiftmap seems a little moronic for them though (At least for 10 speed). They don't make a ton of power near redline but it'll kick down to around there anyways up steep grades and you'll feel like you're going nowhere while the engine screams (but if you manually shift up, the truck will gain speed again). If you drive them with a light foot while towing and just keep slowly applying pressure until you have the power you want the transmission won't have a heart attack searching for gears. Also, disable gears 9 and 10 while towing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I can't speak for the big gassers (I've only driven diesels in their larger trucks) but the 10 speed does pretty well with my Ranger's little 2.3, I did a 600mi tow that involved a couple of moderate-sized mountain ranges last year and it cruised uphill at surprisingly low RPMs and then held gears well downhill.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thought you were talking about diesel 7.3s, 15 years and 300k is only half life for them

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Remind me of a time when they weren't shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >His truck doesn't have an EZ Load Mode

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't that happen because GM made the frames for them in mexico or some shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >underpowered motors that get V8 mpg with none of the performance
      >motor gets pink milkshake anyway
      >suspension collapses due to faulty ball joints
      >20 years old, 287k miles and only "some" frame rust? $17,999 +tax+tip
      They always were overhyped and overpriced slop

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The late gen 2 Tacoma's and the gen 1 Tundras are good.

      https://i.imgur.com/KqvFZiO.jpeg

      >underpowered motors that get V8 mpg with none of the performance
      >motor gets pink milkshake anyway
      >suspension collapses due to faulty ball joints
      >20 years old, 287k miles and only "some" frame rust? $17,999 +tax+tip
      They always were overhyped and overpriced slop

      >Ball joints
      Easy asf to replace and fix. I'd rather deal with that than fricked up internal engine issues and transmissions fricking up. Or worst of all in my case...frame rot (looking at you Chevy, you mfers).

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        in northern and coastal areas, frame rot is an issue much more prevalent in toyota trucks.
        been looking for a toyota pickup or a gen1 tundra for a few years as a project. frames are swiss cheese in the PNW and surrounding areas.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Absolutely truckbroken

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Should have put oil in it

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You know the end is near when Toyota is making Ford look good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they're just making Ford look slightly less terrible. not even Toyota coping, because their new Turbotarded V6 is gay af and I will never buy a full size truck anything less than a V8. Toyoat has lost be as a potential truck consumer moving forward, so I'll be looking at used Tundras from private sellers or just a total shitbox with a V8 for hauling garbage and pulling a utility trailer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ford was always better. weeb Black personmutts will seethe and cope

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Toyota abandons the proven and bulletproof 5.7L V8
    >Toyota abandons the proven and bulletproof 4.0 V6

    >frickery ensures

    Sounds about right.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/XSZTX34.png

      >people complaining that Toyota's drivetrains are outdated
      >they finally change them, engines prematurely shit themselves

      This and also eco loons creaming themselves at 0.5mpg more

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My dad's tt f150 went 300k with almost zero parts swapped. He sold it for way more than I would have gave for it.
        I switched from a Silverado to a tt f150 because it kicks the shit out of every other half ton, idgaf about milage. It's a good thing too, since it sucks down fuel like crazy when it's in the boost. It's a thirsty b***h.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I will never trust any engine with a turbo. This includes diesels.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Turbos or not, I don't trust this nutruck. It's the electronics that concern me.
            I'm going to enjoy it for a while and then get rid of it, idk what I'll do after that. I guess just become a homosexual that doesn't need a truck, sell the kayaks and dirt bikes and neglect the yard, camp next to griswalds and hispanics in paypig campgrounds. I have an old truck but it's not comfortable for long hauls. The frickin commies have won.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Wise. More parts and more pieces prone to failure. An under-stressed NA V8 will drive circles around a turbo'd V6 any day of the week. It's possible to build decent turbo'd engines, big diesels are an example of this, but I wouldn't trust Ford to do anything right. Even the old MZR engines, which are basically the seedling for all of Ford's turbo products, were problematic if you worked them even slightly beyond their engineered parameters (see thrown rods).

            hypermiling homosexuals who care about gas mileage deserve to be shot and dumped in a pit like diseased pigs.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Turbo diesel tractor trailers routinely last hundreds of thousands of miles
            >They're unreliable

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's all about how you operate it, right?
            Hot/cold cycles are usually the killer, not prolonged use. Shorter trips means increased wear, as opposed to long trips.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That is true for all engines though

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Further proof that Toyota does not innovate

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >innovate

        who the frick "innovates" these days? literally no one. just stick with what works, there is absolutely nothing more that can or should be done with consumer vehicles at this point, anything more is making them worse.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He wants a bunch of bullshit apps and electrical computer shit that will be impossible to replace after 5-10 years when it all burns out. It really makes me go "WTF" knowing that newer cars have 3 or more fricking fuse boxes...

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            most likely, that's the only criticism I ever hear from normies anymore. even professional car reviewers mention engines and trannies in passing, it's like some unfortunate preamble they're required to stumble through before getting to the really FUN WOWWWEEEE TECH FEATURES like the tablet jammed into the dashboard and the same two fricking programs that have been around for a decade already.
            >wow it has Apple Car Play thingy
            >oh wow Android Auto

            b-b-b-b-b-but toyoter is da bes muh nippon engineering muh toyoter tax eat shit
            >captcha: VSOYY

            stop being a homosexual right this second.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The only car guy online that focuses on engine and troony is old Scotty Kilmer. The old guy is right to call all those tech features for what they are "bells and whistles". The new shinny bullshit that doesn't matter and isn't needed. I NEVER need or ever used a rear dash cam but now that shit is required for new vehicles in the US? Fricking bullshit.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            based Scotty putting plebs in their place. backup cameras are more of a distraction than anything, at least if you're using your mirrors you still maintain your peripheral vision whereas the screen completely takes away your focus on stuff around you. idk what the frick I will do if/when my current cars no longer function.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Toyotas were always mediocre. I lived in the woods when they became the soup du jour and we all had one or three.
    They were good because they were small and light and they filled that niche better than anything else but the longevity was never there. If you ran them hard the head gaskets left the chat. And they never did any serious work, because they were weak. Their best use was getting the kids to school in the snow, and bushwhacking narrow trails.
    Toyota built a cult following and the adherents overlooked the engine swaps and the pathetic power.
    Go look in those rural communities now, you won't find the SR5s that were everywhere back then. They all drive fool size burger trucks again, or Subarus if they're weirdos.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >people complaining that Toyota's drivetrains are outdated
    >they finally change them, engines prematurely shit themselves

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I never had an issue with the motor, just the transmissions

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what year v6s? I been eyeballing v6 2021 highlander

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If it's the 3.5 2GR-FE (transverse mounted V6) or the 1GR-fe (longitudinal mounted 4.0 V6) you're golden. Both of those engines have been in service for decades and proven themselves, they even stuffed the 2GR-FEs in Rav4s way back in the mid 2000s and they were little rocketships. Still see them driving around today.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Their best days are behind them.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't forget that dealers wont buy used ones right now.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >engine spins a main bearing
    It happens enough that it's clearly an engineering and/or manufacturing fault.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically praying for soiota to get gangraped into ruin by Nissan and Honda

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was making my morning coffee in the kitchen, when suddenly, wife yell
    >toyota is kill
    >no

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anything with a timing BELT instead of a CHAIN is not a truck, period.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anything that filters wrenchlets is good in my book

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Toyota has unironically fallen under the new CEO

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are they still claiming it's just '22 and '23, or are they including '24 now?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i wonder why toyota tundras are the rental pickup

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Toyota was good at some point? Seems like every Toyota I've ever seen has oil consumption issues, blow by, the interior is crumbling to pieces. People Will swear by them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I heard that it's a problem for camry's if you don't keep up on the oil changes with no way to fix it when it starts.

      >interior is crumbling to pieces
      Still better than fricking Dodge/Rams piece of shit front ends, troonys, and rust/rotting bodies. Fords fricked up engines, Chevy electrical problems, frame rot (early colorados), burned out blow motor connectors.

      Oh right and Toyota still supplies parts for the troonys and frame even going 20 years back? Chevy after 5 years? Drops selling parts for the truck and you need to go aftermarket.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >where were you when Toyota became shit?

    Its really weird that the trucks are what's going to shit. They can make a reliable plug in hybrid sedan or suv but they somehow forgot how to make a pickup truck.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Its really weird that the trucks are what's going to shit
      It's because they're being made in Mexico now and instead of the USA. So zero quality control now. Doesn't help they started doing that turbo bullshit.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    b-b-b-b-b-but toyoter is da bes muh nippon engineering muh toyoter tax eat shit
    >captcha: VSOYY

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