>charges outrageous prices to fly to someone's country on their dime

>charges outrageous prices to fly to someone's country on their dime
>cuts up a rare car, of which only several thousand still exist
>the bodywork of the car is permanently cut up and cannot be restored without remanufacturing the entire body (impossible if you aren't a millionaire)
>mounts a fibreglass copycat RSR/GT2 body kit that he didn't even design himself
>uses whatever junk fasteners that he has lying around
>fills the massive panels gaps with literal gap filler from the hardware store
>that will be $50k plus tip thank you arigato
people who like these cars are so ignorant that it sort of makes me wish we had a eugenics program in existence
how can these people be so easily tricked? it's literally in the name - ROUGH world concept, and they're surprised the work is rough
god give me strength i am near my limit

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I love these threads

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The best part is the cope they use

    >But when he dies the cars he’s worked on will be way more expensive and rare.

    Idiots

    • 1 month ago
      Greased Geese

      then kill him???

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Weeb
        Opinion ignored, I want him to live forever now

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's one picture of an anime character, you don't build one bridge and become a bridge builder

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I dabbled in sucking wiener one time, it doesn't make me gay

            This is your logic

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Anime website, seethe

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >seething thread #9002
    >OP still won't tell us which of his family members Nakai raped for him to be this butthurt
    I'm still going with your mother, but I can't rule out the possibility that you have a sister too.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Charges rich people a pittance to provide a service and spectacle
    >Cuts up ugly mcdonalds strut shitboxes
    >Mounts a bodykit that's period correct for the vehicle
    Okay, why are you upset?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Using your in-depth knowledge of suspension dynamics go ahead and explain exactly what's wrong with McPherson struts.
      >protip: you won't

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Positive camber gain in bump
        Well that was easy.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          do double bones not gain positive camber if you run the control arms at the wrong angle then?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Double wishbones only gain negative camber unless you design them wrong.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >too stupid to understand the conversation
            Did you think mcpherson was different?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Macs are different. When the suspension loads, the lower control arm becomes shorter, which pulls in the bottom of the wheel (positive camber). With double wishbones, the top arm becomes shorter, faster than the lower arm, which pulls in the top of the wheel (negative camber). You can get around it on macs to some extent by either running more passive negative camber to compensate for the camber gain, limiting the suspension travel to limit the effect, and/or by raising the control arm pickup. This last one isn't a good solution because it also raises the roll center and reduces compliance by causing loads to transmit through the control arm rather than the damper.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >When the suspension loads, the lower control arm becomes shorter, which pulls in the bottom of the wheel (positive camber)
            (if you run it at the wrong angle)

            AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
            AAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHA
            DOUBLE BONES gayS LITERALLY DON'T KNOW THE MOST BASIC SHIT ABOUT SUSPENSION DESIGN
            AHAHAHAHAHHAH
            THEY'RE FRICKING CLUELESS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo
            NO WONDER THEY'RE ALWAYS MAKING SEETHING BAIT THREADS
            AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            they do the trapezoidal design deliberately, the objective is to lean out the bottom of the tire through the camber, to keep the tire from being scrubbed across the ground. This saves a bit of tire wear but it's mostly because the scrubbing can introduce lateral motion to the body of the car, making you fishtail out of nowhere when driving on a bumpy straight road. It also has the added benefit of being counteracted by body roll in hard turns, which plants the tire more flatly, increasing traction.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >my suspension magically stays level with bumps but adjusts camber for turns....
            The Porsche 911 has won LeMans, Dakar and Baja500.
            homosexual.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Black person do you really think they raced McDonald's struts on an LMP?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >COMFORT suspension

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >
          How do you suppose that happens with a single control arm and a macpherson strut

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    great now the bait threads are crossing over

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We have bots baiting bots, welcome to the future

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you even care? Not your car, not your money.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >>the bodywork of the car is permanently cut up and cannot be restored without remanufacturing the entire body (impossible if you aren't a millionaire)
    Lmao, fenders for a 964 cost 1.2k
    He doesn't ruin anything at all and it can all be replaced back to factory condition for cheap

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >front

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Now find something real to complain about.
        Every single part on classic 911s can be purchased brand new. Every single body part. Every single interior part. Everything.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Every single part on classic 911s can be purchased brand new. Every single body part. Every single interior part. Everything.
          This is the major thing that most people don't understand about cars in general. Other than Porsche, I don't know of any other company that still produces parts after more than like 10 years of production. Very rare to have factory offerings for restorations.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Classic muscle have offering for everything that is needed. Possible to build an entire car from scratch with brand new parts.
            The reason this is possible for classic muscle and Porsches is quite simple. The boomers who own them have the money to fork out for new parts. And they are all shit rust buckets that need full nut and bolt restorations kek.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, and the restorations done well fetch top dollar, and in turn, raises the prices of all of the newer offerings. I think a base model 911 is like $160k now before mark up.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            theres more 32 Fords now than were ever made by Mr Henry

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Despite that being completely false, they aren't using Ford parts anon. That's the point, and why they're so cheap.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not gonna lie I just heard that before because so many kit cars exist. might have even been a joke. however, who the frick cares if the parts I can buy today weren't made in Henry's plant? stupid thing to care about.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Personally I would only want a Ford that was personally touched by Henry and infused with his anti-semitic dragon energy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            based

            tooling is a thing anon, and they're not fiberglass replicas
            [...]
            based

            I have no idea what that means I could make one in my garage. I'm pretty sure they were not made of fiberglass but steel.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If fiberglass was a thing that early I'll admit I actually don't know how to do it and have no experience with it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            not sure if narpist or tourist

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            no idea what narpist means so you're probably a Zoomer using wierd Zoomer words that doesn't understand Ford didn't hand make the cars himself and these techniques are not impossible to figure out. try Google, fabrication and body work aren't done with magic wands. we can all do it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            there is a mentally ill anon here that makes like five or six threads about
            Not
            A
            Real
            Porshe

            We don't really understand why, they're pretty good cars.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            tooling is a thing anon, and they're not fiberglass replicas

            Personally I would only want a Ford that was personally touched by Henry and infused with his anti-semitic dragon energy

            based

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder, do people ever build fresh 911s from spare parts only?
          or are there parts you can't buy like chassis

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's happening with Ford escorts already

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            checked MST page and I wonder what kind of interior equipment they can put in it
            would be extra comfy with power brakes, adjustable seats and mirrors, cabin heater, ventilation, basic stuff like these
            can't be taken for granted in kitcars though

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >ack! my butt!

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Forced meme

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    They gain *negative* camber unless the lower wishbone is shorter, which it should never be.

    https://i.imgur.com/QkjXMIn.jpeg

    >When the suspension loads, the lower control arm becomes shorter, which pulls in the bottom of the wheel (positive camber)
    (if you run it at the wrong angle)

    AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
    AAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHA
    DOUBLE BONES gayS LITERALLY DON'T KNOW THE MOST BASIC SHIT ABOUT SUSPENSION DESIGN
    AHAHAHAHAHHAH
    THEY'RE FRICKING CLUELESS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo
    NO WONDER THEY'RE ALWAYS MAKING SEETHING BAIT THREADS
    AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

    Keep reading and you'll find out why it's not a good idea to just raise the control arm pickup until you stop gaining positive camber.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What angle did you think your double bones control arm runs at?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Can you spend 10 seconds in ms paint and draw the way you think double wishbones work? I really don't understand what you're trying to say.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          IT'S RIGHT HERE BUDDY

          https://i.imgur.com/6fL29We.png

          Macs are different. When the suspension loads, the lower control arm becomes shorter, which pulls in the bottom of the wheel (positive camber). With double wishbones, the top arm becomes shorter, faster than the lower arm, which pulls in the top of the wheel (negative camber). You can get around it on macs to some extent by either running more passive negative camber to compensate for the camber gain, limiting the suspension travel to limit the effect, and/or by raising the control arm pickup. This last one isn't a good solution because it also raises the roll center and reduces compliance by causing loads to transmit through the control arm rather than the damper.

          AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA
          AHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAH
          AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, and why do you think that would gain camber? The upper control arm will gain length as it comes up, but the lower control arm will as well. If you set your camber with the control arms parallel, you will never have more camber than that. Meanwhile, if you set your camber with the the control arm of a macstrut parallel to the ground, you will never have *less* camber than that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >too stupid to follow the conversation
            See the angle of the lower control arm there little buddy?

            >NooOoooOoOOoo ONLY DOUBLE BONES ARE ALLOWED TO RUN THE LOWER CONTROL ARM AT THE RIGHT ANGLE
            >IF MCHADSONS DO IT, IT'S LE BAD

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/MJNO7sK.png

            IT'S RIGHT HERE BUDDY [...]
            AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA
            AHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAH
            AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

            https://i.imgur.com/QkjXMIn.jpeg

            >When the suspension loads, the lower control arm becomes shorter, which pulls in the bottom of the wheel (positive camber)
            (if you run it at the wrong angle)

            AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
            AAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHA
            DOUBLE BONES gayS LITERALLY DON'T KNOW THE MOST BASIC SHIT ABOUT SUSPENSION DESIGN
            AHAHAHAHAHHAH
            THEY'RE FRICKING CLUELESS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo
            NO WONDER THEY'RE ALWAYS MAKING SEETHING BAIT THREADS
            AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

            holy shit I hate gays like you who just act superior without actually making a single fricking argument. You are the one who is too fricking stupid to follow the conversation, that's why you completely avoid making an actual point. You have nothing, you are a fraud.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You were too stupid to understand recognise the argument presented

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yes, that's what I said. Do you not understand the meaning of "unless"?

  11. 1 month ago
    p™

    heard he won't modify corvettes, says they're already perfect

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Still looks like a Chinese imitation Ferrari. Gross.

      • 1 month ago
        p™

        c8 looks better than any ferrari ever built

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/6aXVdpG.jpeg

        heard he won't modify corvettes, says they're already perfect

        c8 is numale zoomie CorVeeVee. see picrel.

        hashtag not my vette.

        p p poo poo
        .t TooZ. ... avoiding the filters, namegayging everywhere.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      might be THE greatest car americans have made

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Low bar, tho

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          A low bar for the world
          The only bar that matters to mutts

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    wishbones only gain negative camber unless you design them wrong.
    Yes, that's what I said.
    >>only gain negative camber when designed wrong
    That's the opposite of what I said, and also the opposite of what you said here

    [...]

    >>gain camber when wrong
    What are you implying?

    >too stupid to follow the conversation
    See the angle of the lower control arm there little buddy?

    >NooOoooOoOOoo ONLY DOUBLE BONES ARE ALLOWED TO RUN THE LOWER CONTROL ARM AT THE RIGHT ANGLE
    >IF MCHADSONS DO IT, IT'S LE BAD

    How about you make a little picture of what you think the proper angle for macstruts would be.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't even know what angle all the gorillions and gorillions of mcpherson strut cars run their lower control arm at

      AAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
      THE BONES BROS ARE LITERALLY CLUELESS
      THEY DON'T KNOW A SINGLE FRICKING THING
      AHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHA
      AHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >All macstrut cars run their lower control arms at the same angle
        Well that's obviously bullshit, so which angle would you say is best?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          almost none of them run it at the angle which gains positive camber in compression LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The only way to prevent gaining camber in bump with macs is to place the inboard control arm pickup above the the outer control arm pickup at full compression. Go ahead and name one single car that's ever been designed that way, I'll wait.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >double bones brainlet doesn't understand how angles work

            IT WON'T GAIN POSITIVE CAMBER UNTIL IT GOES PAST THE MIRRORED ANGLE IT STARTED AT BRAINLET
            AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHHAHA
            AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAA

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, I see. You're trying to say that if you start with -4* of camber and you end with 0* of camber, you haven't "gained positive camber." You're wrong and moronic, you've gained 4 degrees of camber even if the final result isn't positive. Just adding a frickton of static negative camber to deal with your shitty geometry is a bandaid, not a solution.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >he still doesn't understand

            NO YOU FRICKING moron LMAO
            YOU START AT 4 DEGREES NEG
            IT GOES TO 6 DEGREES NEG
            THEN IT GOES BACK TO 4 DEGREES NEG
            YOU'RE SO FRICKING DUMB AHAHHAHAHAHHHAA
            AHAHHAHAHHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH
            AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHHAHAHHA

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >He's gaining camber through the upper half of his suspension travel
            >He thinks this constitutes not gaining camber
            Okay bro.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >"gaining camber in compression"
            >it's actually just losing some of the camber it already gained

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Just run more static negative camber so you still have the exactly the same amount of camber when you need your maximum negative camber
            I dunno anon, is there another way to phrase this that sounds less moronic?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So what you're describing there anon would be something like:
            >mcpherson strut doesn't gain enough negative camber at full compression
            Instead you went full moron and phrased it as:
            >mcpherson strut gains positive camber on compression
            Which is wrong.

            You then went on to defend your erroneous statement with a bunch of cope posts pretending mcphersons run the control arm at the wrong angle, and if they run it at the right angle it's somehow bad, but not when double bones runs it at the same angle then it's ok.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Macstruts gain positive camber through their bump travel
            Factually correct, even you admit that they gain positive camber in the upper half of their stroke
            >Double wishbones only gain negative camber on bump
            Factually true in 99.99% of cases. Of course, you can choose to design them wrong, but lets just assume decent geometry for both suspensions.
            >With double wishbone, an engineer could set static camber to 0, giving maximum grip and minimum rolling resistance and tire wear in a straight line, and adjust the suspension pickups to give the optimal camber in bump for the best grip while turning
            And they often do.
            >With macpherson struts, even as an engineer with a clean slate to place your suspension pickups anywhere you could possibly want, every option is cope that gives bad results somwhere in the range of motion, the best you can do is just split down the middle so it's bad everywhere rather than good in one place and completely shits the bed in another
            Okay, so now that we've established that macstruts are kinematically bad and they're just used because they're cheap and compact and maybe not *that* bad if they're in a sports car with extremely limited wheel travel (cope), what should we discuss next?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Is your head just on there for decoration?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do you have an argument you'd like to make?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No point really, you've made it clear your brain doesn't work logically and won't accept anything other than delusion

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So you're not even going to make an attempt to justify a suspension design with exactly the same camber at rest and in a maximum-g turn?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry, what? Have you ever actually interacted with a single control arm and MacPherson strut vehicle? The strut is not vertical, its on an angle with the strut top further in to the car, and back, than the bottom pivot of the knuckle. When it compresses the knuckle follows this and is pulled up and gains negative camber. In well engineered setups such as the majority of fast BMWs the negative camber gain is substantial and designed to work in concert with bodyroll to keep the outer tyre contact patch nice and flat.
            No, looking at some FWD shitbox designed solely to be cheap doesn't show you how MacPherson can work properly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >When it compresses the knuckle follows this and is pulled up and gains negative camber.
            This only happens until the lower control arm is parallel to the bottom of the car, after that it begins to gain positive camber. You can't move the inboard pivot up high enough to prevent this without fricking up the roll center. Scroll up, anon, we've been over this already.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >
            And that only happens if something's been lowered too far without roll centre and bump steer correction. It might surprise you to learn this, but when a manufacturer designs a car they think about these things.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Post a car where the inboard control arm pickup is higher than the outboard control arm pickup at maximum bump. Manufacturers think about these things, but if they care enough to fix them it's by changing to a better suspension layout, because it's an inherent problem with macstruts that can't be fixed. This is why double wishbones and multilink were invented.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If a vehicle achieves maximum bump in a corner camber is irrelevant because it's going to crash anyway. Plus, a slightly reduced amount of negative camber isn't the end of the world anyway. Say you're at 0 degrees static, then when the control arm is flat its 2 degrees negative, going back to 1.8 degrees negative if the arm goes further into bump isn't noticeable. Inventing these scenarios in your head is silly. What is silly, however, is your precious double wishbones being poorly engineered, as in pic related.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Just set more static camber so you can get the camber you need while turning!
            Why is it always this same cope? That's exactly the problem with them. Macs are worse than wishbones because they require more static camber to achieve the same desired camber while turning.

            >What is silly, however, is your precious double wishbones being poorly engineered, as in pic related.
            There's nothing wrong with that image. Having double wishbones gain negative camber in bump necessarily causes them to gain positive camber in droop. This is actually a good thing, because when you're turning, weight transfer results in body roll, which causes the outside wheel to bump and the inside wheel to droop. This is why you need negative camber in bump; it keeps the outside wheel perpendicular to the road surface. It also means that the inside wheel needs positive camber to remain perpendicular to the road. Of course, the exact amount of positive camber on the inside wheel isn't super important, because that wheel is unloaded and contributes relatively little to turning ability, but small gains are still gains.

            tl;dr: negative camber is extremely important for wheels loaded in turning, positive camber is maybe a little useful for unloaded wheels, camber doesn't matter even a little bit to a car in the position of your picture since the wheels aren't touching the ground.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >There's nothing wrong with that image
            Confirmed troll, disregarding everything you're saying

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That car in that position could have 90 degrees of camber and the driver wouldn't even know. Tires that aren't touching the ground are irrelevant.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not the anon you're responding to but if you didn't struggle with reading comprehension so badly I'd suggest you go and read textbooks on vehicle dynamics.

            You could make the simple line diagrams people are drawing for you in a CAD programme and move the wheel centre and watch what happens, or even plot the angles in a chart of bump vs. camber etc.

            You won't though, you'll just keep insisting that you are right without actually being able to fully explain yourself nor understand what people who know what they're talking about tell you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No anon, they don't gain positive camber on compression, they lose some of the negative camber they gained if they compress too far.
            If I lend you money and you pay me back, do you go around telling everyone how much money you've given me?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If I lend you money and then demand it back when you need it most, do you go around telling eveyone how generous I am?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >when I need it most
            I give it back because it's not my fricking money and thankyou for lending it to me in the first place you ungrateful homosexual.
            What kind of moron are you to imply otherwise?

            >yeah he lent me money but then he asked for it back so he's bad

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >He's kind of guy to show up at his best friend's parents' funeral and demand that $20 back
            Suddenly it all makes sense.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >borrows money and shows the opposite of gratitude
            shalln't be lending to you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Hey bro, can I borrow $500 to buy this cool car? I'll pay you back on Tuesday when I get paid
            >"Sure, no problem!"
            >Two hours later
            >"Hey, where's that money you owe me?"
            >It's not tuesday yet, I'm meeting the guy tomorrow to buy the car
            >"YOU UNGRATEFUL PIECE OF SHIT YOU OWE ME YOUR UNDYING GRATITUDE FOR LETTING YOU CARRY MY SPARE CHANGE FOR TWO HOURS EVEN THOUGH I'M DEMANDING IT BACK EARLY!"
            I won't be borrowing from you thoughbeit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You are now describing a different phenomenon anon, you are describing the act of breaking an pre-arranged agreement.
            Just like when you mischaracterised losing gained negative camber as gaining positive camber, you must always mischaracterise to make your point.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The agreement is that I have 0 degrees of static camber and I need you to lend me -4 degrees for this turn. You give me -4 degrees and then demand it back partway through the turn so I'm left with none when my outside tires are fully loaded.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm going to have to double check these numbers but it sounds like no positive camber was gained during this scenario.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, no camber was gained either way despite the fact that you agreed to lend it to me.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah just finished the double checking m8 and the numbers are pretty clear, the amount of positive camber gained remains at zero, sorry buddy but it looks like you were wrong up there.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Meanwhile, my boy dubwubs would give me 30 degrees of negative camber if that was actually a thing I wanted.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Cool story bro, doesn't mean you get to lie about mcchads

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're right, I'm sorry. In the future I'll say that mcdonald's struts are worse because they have 0 camber gain in turns.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >mcdonald's struts are bad because they lose some of the camber gained at full compression
            There you matey, it's not hard to be honest.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm so glad we could come to this agreement on why mcdonalds is bad.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That is indeed a downside, and if you were honest about that in the first place it could have saved us dozens of posts but here we are.
            The good news is you don't want to be cornering with your front suspension on full compression anyway so Mcchads suspension works really quite nicely on the front.

            Hope this helps!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Unfortunately, the amount of droop in cornering is directly proportional to the amount of lateral acceleration, so the faster you go, the closer you'll be to maximum bump (and the more camber gain you need). Fortunately, there's a suspension design with camber gain in hard turns that's perfect for going fast.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >his car corners at maximum compression
            What happens if you hit a bump in the corner bro?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >He loses negative camber past a certain point
            What happens if you turn too hard and los your negative camber bro?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You set up your spring, bar and damper rates so that the car corners within your intended range of travel.

            Do double bones brainlets not do this then?
            (they do, most double bones cars gain WAY TOO MUCH negative camber during the last portion of travel because that's the setup which gives the best camber curve during the intended range)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What happens when you hit a bump in the middle of the corner and lose your negative camber?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It is true that McChads is not the best for handling mid corner bumps and it will not make full use of the brief moment of extra traction you might gain during the compression stage of a bump.
            Honest criticisms are ok anon, it's the dishonest ones you have to leave out - like pretending suspension is designed for cornering on maximum compression, that's just a brainlet move.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I never said that it was, but the closer you get to maximum compression, the harder you're turning and the more important it is to maintain your camber.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There you go again like an absolute brainlet.
            You set the spring, bar and damper rates so that the tyre's grip will be exceeded somewhere within your intended range - maximum compression will not be achieved through cornering forces alone.

            This isn't a difficult concept anon, if you knew anything about suspension and handing (you've repeatedly shown you don't) this should already be obvious.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Running overly stiff spring rates to avoid this is not a good compromise to make.

            Bumps aren't just kerbs etc, most surfaces aren't totally smooth and flat, including racetracks. If your spring rates are too high, you get inconsistent vertical loads which means that the lateral loads your tyres can react are inconsistent, which means that you cannot take a corner at as high a speed.

            As has been explained to you multiple times now, macpherson cars can be made to handle, but you are always making compromises to achieve this which have downsides.

            As for "setting damper rates so that the tyre's grip will be exceeded within your intended range", that's pure nonsense and you do not understand what dampers do. For handling purposes, damping rates are set to keep vertical forces pushing tyres downwards into the road as consistent as possible, which allows you to go faster through corners.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >reddit spaced brainlet post
            I told you to stay out of this argument homosexual because you're now arguing against things no one said.
            Yes spring, bar and damper rates are set so that the tyre will lose grip before the suspension bottoms out - that should be fricking obvious if you weren't moronic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >damper rates are set so that the tyre will lose grip before the suspension bottoms out

            That's not how dampers work.

            > it would be still possible to bottom out suspension with aggressive turning, especially if pendulum forces are created, if not for the DAMPERS

            That's not how dampers work

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes it is brainlet.
            Take your dampers out and steer left right left right left right really fast and see if your tiny little brainlet brain can comprehend what is happening.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Just set up your car to intentionally lose grip
            Euroids are truly subhuman.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >another moron who thinks he will get more grip if his car corners at maximum travel
            Just like all your other double bones friends, you don't even have an entry level knowledge of handling dynamics.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It's another moron who thinks that he can increase his cornering grip by setting up his car to lose grip at lower cornering speeds

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >just corner at maximum roll bro
            >all the race cars are doing it!
            -t. actual brainlet

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, and double wishbones can achieve the best camber curve without making the other compromises that macpherson struts need to to achieve this, which another anon has explained to you several times.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If the other anon had said "it is possible to achieve a more desirable camber curve with double wishbone" from the start I never would've argued with him you dumb Black person.
            Frick off out of this argument because you don't have a clue what's going on.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Calling someone dumb when you think setting damper rates limits suspension travel
            lmao

            >If the other anon had said "it is possible to achieve a more desirable camber curve with double wishbone" from the start
            That's what multiple people keep telling you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Correct spring rates will prevent the suspension from bottoming out from progressive turning, but it would be still possible to bottom out suspension with aggressive turning, especially if pendulum forces are created, if not for the DAMPERS.
            YOU
            FRICKING
            BRAINLET

            Stop replying to me.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >pendulum forces
            Most creative way I've ever heard some one say they saw at the wheel while turning. Turning in too early are we?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Pendulum anon - you know how they go left right left right?
            What happens if you hit consecutive left right left right corners without dampers genius?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These threads are more autistic every time
    I blame vaccines.
    Zoomers are moronic.
    >Idiocracy wasn't suppose to be a documentary.
    I'll post this again since there's multiple threads.
    >Porache 911 has won LeMans, Dakar and Baja 500
    Class 8 Baja (the big boys before they started Unlimited "spend $250k on a truck" class) was absolutely dominated by Ford's shit ass Twin I Beam suspension.

    Link me and explain what I've stated.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maccashit cars still faster than your gay little civic and miata.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    superb thread

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Loving the autism in this thread, keep it up boys.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How many classic 911s this guy has already ruined? Are those cars he touched even easy to fix anymore

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >only several thousand still exist
    cry me a river homosexual

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Someone is in love with Nicky

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i don't give a frick what trendy israelites and homosexuals are paying for. good for him, let him rip off these coastal trash.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    he doesnt shit up 924s/944s so hes of no concern to me

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Scams rich morons out of their money
    So what's the problem?

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ah, same anon that mixed up intake and headers on the GT3 post?

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda sounds like you don't understand it's in the name.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    im too low iq to understand this thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      don't worry so is the op

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if macpherson struts are so bad, how did macpherson-equipped 911s over the past 20 years set so many lap records around so many tracks?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because McCHADS suspension makes even more sense for the front of MR or RR cars because they barely load up the front suspension at all during turning and instead dump most of the load onto the heavily cambered Semi-trailing rear.
      >inb4 some morons start telling me 911s would corner faster if they cornered with the front suspension in full compression

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, you used to see fast 911s lifting a front and 3 wheeling through corners

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's the reason they run like 305 width tyres on the back and visibly more camber and track
          In cornering the front wheels on a 911 are just there to point the car in the right direction, the rear is what takes most of the actual cornering load.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    someone get this hack a 914 i want to see him cook

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the steve jobs of body kits

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