>cheaper than normal gas. >sustainable. >smells like whiskey. >burns cleaner. >extra HP boost

>cheaper than normal gas
>sustainable
>smells like whiskey
>burns cleaner
>extra HP boost

Why wouldn't you? Come home friends.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's 1 gas station in a 100 mile radius of me that sells it and it sells out within 3 hours of a delivery
    I would actually like to drive my car, not take it to the station, hoon it for a day, and then have it sit while I attempt to get another tank.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >corrodes aluminium

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Conspiracy theorist moron has never heard of corrosion resistant(is also ethanol resistant) aluminum that fairly modern cars already have.
      Kys. Example aluminum alloy 3003 is one of those more corrosion resistant type aluminum alloys.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >corrosion resistant(is also ethanol resistant) aluminum that fairly modern cars already have.
        are you kidding me niglet? have you ever bought a car from the rust belt or near the ocean?
        any aluminium in the engine bay is covered in crusty white shit
        now imagine that getting sucked down your intake

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          We are talking about engine internals and fuel system. You seriously think that car manufacturers dont do tests, dont choose proper materials for different fuels before they put those parts into production cars? You stupid anti-ethanol Black person. Ethanol resistant materials were created for cars before 2000's.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nah I don't think I will

  4. 2 months ago
    I love

    Would buy but to use it for cleaning liquid in the garage :3

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's saturated with dirty rainwater and whatever else makes its way into the underground tanks.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hydrophilic
    >worse fuel economy
    >probably evaporates more readily than pure gasoline

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >makes more power
      >uses more fuel
      This isn't just a tuning problem?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Alcohol stoich ratio is 10:1, gasoline is 14:1, you need to use 35% more alcohol to make the same power

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I heard that because more fluid is flowing through the engine, it pulls more heat and allows you to make more power. Is that why people use E85 when they want to make big power?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It isn't because more is being injected, it's because the latent evaporation temp/pressure of alcohols is lower so it evaporates more/faster, so it "pulls more heat from" the air charge. This is because state-changes in all matter (a liquid phasing into gaseous state for example) require energy to transition from a phase, not just reaching a certain energy level (temperature).
            The -ratio relative- amount injected is only a minor effect when compared to the saturation capacity of air (which is the cooling limiter, much like the humidity limit for evap coolers for a building), and especially the cylinder pressures of a burning mixture.

            Then why does gas mileage suffer with corn gas?

            ethanol has 20% less energy and needs 30% more for proper stoich ratio.

            https://i.imgur.com/UuxEW1H.jpg

            >cheaper than normal gas
            >sustainable
            >smells like whiskey
            >burns cleaner
            >extra HP boost

            Why wouldn't you? Come home friends.

            >growing the corn incurs massive farming subsidies
            >corn is a huge water-waste
            >corn depletes soil nutrients quicker than most regular food crops
            >corn accelerates topsoil erosion faster than most regular food crops
            >the patent-owned process for producing corn ethanol is the only reason this is allowed to continue

            No, frick you. Ethanol is fine, corn ethanol is moron Black person shit supporting some rich israelite and a lot of lazy, corrupt, already rich farm conglomerates and farming mega corporations
            have a nice day.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Based explainer. The more we know, the better we are.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Corn subsidy is a national defense thing. If we get in a war, we want to be able to grow enough corn to fuel the whole military and also not have famine in a time when trade relationships might not be reliable. But it takes a long time to spin up corn production from scratch, so in order to have that wartime capacity, we need to keep the corn growing every year even in peacetime. This was actually set up before the israelites started controlling the government.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can believe that if you want but corn distilled ethanol blend gas came from a patent owner/corporation and was fed by the Save The Whales! eco warrior propoganda that came out of the 60s/70s. It's turned into (was alweays an avenue for) big business tax dollar funneling, and the USA has enough oil reserve and production capacity to feed itself for any conceivable realistic war period.

            We're of the Top 5 oil producing countries in the world. We produce 13Mm bbl and consume 20Mm bbl per day, and in wartime this consumption can definitely be curtailed down as required. Many people waste a lot of energy having fun and operating high consumption machines when they don't "need" to use them, for example.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            True. Hopefully those ethanol subsidies will continue just as long as petroleum also gets subsidies. Ethanol is currently the only enough competitive fuel so Americans dont have to pay 2x more expensive fuel fill up prices. Majority of most harmful emissions that are related to cars come from petroleum products.

            It isn't because more is being injected, it's because the latent evaporation temp/pressure of alcohols is lower so it evaporates more/faster, so it "pulls more heat from" the air charge. This is because state-changes in all matter (a liquid phasing into gaseous state for example) require energy to transition from a phase, not just reaching a certain energy level (temperature).
            The -ratio relative- amount injected is only a minor effect when compared to the saturation capacity of air (which is the cooling limiter, much like the humidity limit for evap coolers for a building), and especially the cylinder pressures of a burning mixture.

            [...]
            ethanol has 20% less energy and needs 30% more for proper stoich ratio.

            [...]
            >growing the corn incurs massive farming subsidies
            >corn is a huge water-waste
            >corn depletes soil nutrients quicker than most regular food crops
            >corn accelerates topsoil erosion faster than most regular food crops
            >the patent-owned process for producing corn ethanol is the only reason this is allowed to continue

            No, frick you. Ethanol is fine, corn ethanol is moron Black person shit supporting some rich israelite and a lot of lazy, corrupt, already rich farm conglomerates and farming mega corporations
            have a nice day.

            >>corn is a huge water-waste.
            Majority of water comes ground and heaven. on the production factory it depends on whether its a dry mill or wet mill. Some even recycle water.
            >corn depletes soil nutrients quicker than most regular food crops.
            >corn accelerates topsoil erosion faster than most regular food crops.
            Road salt is more worse issue than corn.
            >the patent-owned process for producing corn ethanol is the only reason this is allowed to continue.
            I dont think so. Patent more likely makes it harder to advance corn ethanol to be more efficient.
            >have a nice day.
            No its you who should have a nice day. Ethanol free gasoline literally should be banned.
            https://erc.uic.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/633/2020/03/UIC5cities_FINAL.pdf

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            People use e85 when they want to make big power because it resists knock at very high compression

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That and the charge cooling effect acts like a free intercooler (stage), so it's not just the 102-ish AKI octane that benefits a

            [...]

            car.

            10 octane points is worth practically nothing for NA because of the diminishing returns of CRs as you get above the 12:1 range. A lot of work and money for a conversion+tune that might get you 5, 10HP depending on engine size.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >sustainable
    It's not 2009 anymore, we know this shit is a meme.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of third world shitholes tried to run 100% ethanol and guess what? They went back to gasoline because it sucks.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >burns cleaner.
    Also less toxic fumes. Hopefully the non ethanol gasoline will be taxed much more harder.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We need to put lead back into gasoline for maximum efficiency

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Lets pollute people lungs with lead to cause Black person level low IQ for everyone.
      People like you should be shot to death.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cheaper than normal gas
    Unfortunately only true currently in areas that have passed higher subsidies for ethanol than are in place for fossil gas.
    If it wasn't for the subsidies, and there was a fair market, ethanol might actually have a chance. In the era before the subsidies companies sold kits for people to make their own fuel at home and the made economic sense. After the subsidies those went away because the fuel stations were so much cheaper.

    It really fricked over the US Midwest.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >people make their own fuel at home and the made economic sense.
      Thats why ethanol fuel was temporarily banned. People were too independent against petroleum industry.
      https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0_aPHTRrZQg

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >prohibition was actually about banning self production of wood alcohol
        LMAO

        >cheaper than normal gas
        Unfortunately only true currently in areas that have passed higher subsidies for ethanol than are in place for fossil gas.
        If it wasn't for the subsidies, and there was a fair market, ethanol might actually have a chance. In the era before the subsidies companies sold kits for people to make their own fuel at home and the made economic sense. After the subsidies those went away because the fuel stations were so much cheaper.

        It really fricked over the US Midwest.

        >subsidies for gasoline
        LMFAO

        What are you going to tell me next, the Earth is flat?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Then why does gas mileage suffer with corn gas?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ethanol is less energy dense so you need to use more of it to get the same power
      also means you'll be blasting the oil film off your cylinder walls and diluting the frick out of your oil

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fricks up your gaskets and O2 sensors
    Nothin' personal kid

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I buy the opposite. Clear gas.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >confuses the everloving frick out of your old car's ECU
    >eats your gas tank alive

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fricks your shit up

    Not worth
    If I felt so strongly about squeezing that final tenth out of my engine's power I'd simply swap in a different engine with a higher power potential on pump gas.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Black person blames user error to ethanol fuel which was to mostly drive car below 2(if i remember correctly) miles, so engine never warmed up to dissipate away fuel and condensation water away from engine oil.
      Kys.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >just use this fuel that will frick your shit up if you don't jump through hoops

        I'd really rather not thankyou very much.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          2mile drives is harmful for engines even with 100% gasoline. Engines need to be fully warmed up because water into engines comes from air/atmosphere alone, not just fuel.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah you tried to spout this moronic bullshit last time you made this gay thread
            >b-b-b-b-b-but gasoline engines will also destroy themselves straight away from short trips
            No they don't.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes engines destroy themselves as result of too many short trips. Air, fuel, combustion residues, air in oil creates sulfuric acid and corrosion.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No they don't moron, they last hundreds of thousands of miles, they just don't last as many hundreds of thousands of miles as they would've if they'd been driven with more care.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I never said that destruction would happen straight away, so you must confuse me to somebody else. I was always talking about many repeated short trips.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah that's why E85 is shit because it will frick your shit up IN SHORT TIME

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No it doesnt you moron unless engine runs too lean, never gets chances to warm up properly, doesnt have right engine oil(fully synthetic API SN or better quality oil).
            Quit telling lies how ethanol is more corrosive than gasoline aromatics because its false information.

            If ethanol is so destructive. Why do people run ethanol even in their classic cars? If ethanol destroys engines, then even racers would avoid it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >as long as you jump through these hoops
            No thanks

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            1/2

            Ethanol on most any chemical compatibility chart you will find is equal to or often easier on rubbers, plastics, and metals than what gasoline and BTEX (benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene, & xylene) are.

            If other "harmless" octane boosters are available why do we get harmful ones like BTEX (benzene toluene, ethylbenzene, and xylene)?
            All the fertilizer and things from the soil still are fed to the cattle in the distillers grains. The only thing ethanol is made from came from things from the atmosphere: solar energy, CO2, and water with the latter two needed to make the new gallon of ethanol. How could someone logically assign all the fertilizer to ethanol and none to feed? Better yet, how could a paid study and media blitz do that? ANSWER = it was on purpose.
            Rather than refining oil into toxic and polluting substances, we should refine it along with coal and natural gas into clean and nontoxic ethanol like China, Indonesia, India, and others are doing and/or looking at from an economical process from a Texas company named Celanese with their TCX Technology.
            With enough ethanol we could have almost pollution free ethanol optimized engines with more mileage than gasoline or even diesel engines plus be half the size/twice the power.
            Here is one Ricardo built for GM that they drove around a few years ago:

            FROM RICARDO:
            The new federal CAFE standards are calling for a doubling of fuel mileage performance, which, Vint says, is going to send OEM’s looking for high octane numbers to improve efficiency and ethanol is the best source. Ricardo, an engineering firm with over 100 years in the business of engine design, has developed an extreme boosted direct injection engine (EBDI) to optimize ethanol blends. The 3.2 V6 gasoline engine rivals the power and torque of a much larger GMC Sierra 6.6 diesel, he said, and it delivers 3.5 percent better fuel economy than the diesel.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            2/2
            This is not new technology or knowledge, it was known long ago. It is suppressed technology. Rear Admiral C.M. Chester wrote Henry Ford a letter on Dec.15, 1916:
            "...I also pointed out in the article that as governmental laboratories had developed from 40 to 55% efficiency in alcohol engines as against 20% in gasoline machines, the use of alcohol at double the cost of gasoline for power purposes, was cheaper for motor[s] than gasoline in common use today."
            All the energy and CO2 it takes to produce and deliver a product to the consumer is reflected in the price of the product.

            As such note the cash delivered price on the NYMEX of ethanol is $2.375/gallon. An unusable sub grade of gasoline (RBOB) is $3.32/gallon.
            >>>It takes more energy to make a sub grade of gasoline than ethanol.<<<
            To turn RBOB into a usable E0 fuel even costs a lot more much like premium, racing, and aviation gasolines cost more. Petroleum octane boosters BTEX (benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene & xylene) are expensive plus are dirty and toxic. Or you can splash in >10% ethanol to RBOB and the resultant usable fuel is much cleaner burning, less toxic, and cheaper/cheaper per mile to drive. Who can be against that?
            Poet, the world's largest ethanol producer, now has half their plants co-generating with natural gas electric plants to use the waste steam to make ethanol. Waste steam = free energy
            Thus, ethanol's already low price has room to remain low. Before too long all plants with be like that for who could compete with free energy?

            You don't eat dent corn. Livestock do, byproduct from an ethanol plant is still used for feed. Nutrition that cattle need is mostly preserved,as the starch is what is used to make alcohol. corn was already being grown for livestock and industrial uses. The ethanol plant is just another stop in that same chain.this study is still very wrong. It's counting carbon that was already in the biosphere. We're not concerned about releasing what's already there.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            corporatist swine

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >corporatist swine.
            Thats what petroleum industry, anti-ethanol minded people are.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ethanol people are just Big Ag corporatist swine, leaching off the taxpayers

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Only because the subsidies for fossil fuels make it impossible for anything else to compete without similarly slanting the playing field in their favor.
            Fossil fuel lobbyists know that the minute those subsidies start to end, the market for hydrogen or ethanol opens up and that is the last thing they want.

            Electric cars have only been able to succeed despite the massively unfair fees that have been levied against them because they are so efficient they are still cheaper to run.
            Even with Government Fees and rent-seeking that makes electricity at a fast charger cost $14 a gallon equivalent, will still come out ahead of a typical gas car where the fees are only a fraction of the true cost of road use.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >fossil fuel subsidies
            Let me guess - you're another moron who thinks farmers not paying road tax when they buy the fuel for the farming equipment = "the government subsidizing fossil fuels".
            Fossil fuels are heavy taxed, people still choose fossil fuels because they offer many advantages.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No I think it is crazy that the road use fees paid by drivers of gas cars 98% of cars on the road amounts to only 20% of the funding for the roads, when the road use fees paid by electric cars already amount to 5%.

            That is not even including all of the direct subsidies received by fossil fuel companies, and all of the unaccounted for externalities that come from burning fossil fuels.

            fossil fuels would still be profitable without subsidies. Biofuel would not be.

            Probably, but biofuels can re-capture a significant portion of their emissions. Fossil fuels currently get out of recapturing any of theirs. In a world where fossil fuel companies have to pay to clean up their mess, bio fuels, nuclear power, and other energy providers are on a much more even playing field.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >blahdy blahdy blah
            >bullshit bullshit bullshit

            Stop using the term "fossil fuel subsidies"

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Would you prefer the term Gas Guzzling Welfare Queen?
            You're demanding everyone else pay to support your wasteful lifestyle.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            But that's incorrect, fossil fuels are taxed heavily, noy subsidised.
            You were just stupid enough to believe some misleading facebook stat without looking any further into it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >fossil fuels are taxed heavily
            Where is the money for roads supposed to come from if you insist you don't have to pay your fair share?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            fossil fuels would still be profitable without subsidies. Biofuel would not be.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh frick i've been waiting for the
            >Gasoline costs $28.50 per gallon in government subsidies
            troony to post.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are welcome to explain why your special snowflake fossil fuel costs $.10 a kWh at the gas station, when to sell other energy sources profitably requires $.50 a kWh for hydrogen, and $.40 a kWh for fast charger electricity.

            Making energy portable is always more expensive than using energy in a stationary location. So why is the price of gasoline, less than the price of grid electricity?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is it possible that fossil fuels are a cheap and abundant source of energy or....?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just look at the Road Use fees paid by EVs vs the Road Use fees paid by gas cars, and the fact that the roads are under funded by 75% currently.
            If you would at the very least pay your fair share you would be paying around $7 a gallon.

            At $.20 a kWh that is still half what EVs pay for electricity at fast chargers, and less than half what hydrogen costs.
            At that price Ethanol might actually be able to make economic sense without any subsidy other than factoring in its carbon neutrality.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >fossil fuels are taxed heavily
            Where is the money for roads supposed to come from if you insist you don't have to pay your fair share?

            The whole reason EVs pay higher road use fees is because the government doesn't get the road funding money they would usually get BY TAXING THE FOSSIL FUELS you literal moron

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So... EVs pay much more, because they don't pay less?
            How does that make sense?

            The numbers aren't on your side. Roads are under funded by a massive amount because 98% of the cars on the road, only pay 20% of the fees.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Bruz this really isn't complicated:
            >roads are funded mainly by TAXING FUELS (that's right moron, fuels are taxed NOT SUBSIDISED)
            >EVs don't use fuels
            >but they still use roads
            >therefore the tax for EV's share of road maintenance must be extracted through a road use fee rather than fuel tax

            You must be gorilla tier stupid if you can't understand this.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >roads are funded mainly by TAXING FUELS
            The taxes on the fuels result in the roads being underfunded by 80%.

            >EVs don't use fuels
            >but they still use roads
            And that 1% of vehicles on the road, pays 5% of the fees.

            Maybe I'm not the best at math, but 5% from 1% is a lot more than 20% from 98%.

            If you were paying the same fees EVs were paying for road use, the roads would be more than funded.
            What's so hard to understand about this? You are a Welfare Queen.
            Pay your fair share!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >And that 1% of vehicles on the road, pays 5% of the fees.
            But are they 1% of the vehicles on the road by weight?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fair point, but it just goes to show that paying fees that treat a $200k electric SUV that weighs over 9000lbs the same as a small hatchback that costs under $10k used and weighs less than half as much. Or the fact that the hatchback often pays more in road use fees than a gas F-150 that weighs twice as much.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Heavier vehicles usually use more fuel, therefore the system scales quite nicely.
            Then many countries will have weight tiers for registration costs.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nowhere near enough. Damage done by vehicle weight scales much more rapidly than fuel consumption.

            When a Leaf pays $.02 a mile in road use fees, it isn't right that an F-150 that weighs twice as much pays $.005 a mile.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like you need to stop complaining about make believe "fossil fuel subsidies" and start pushing for better weight scaling of road fees.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The fact that fossil fuel vehicles pay so much less is a fossil fuel subsidy.
            One of the largest indirect subsidies.
            I'm not even talking about the more direct subsidies here.
            I know you want to deny it because it clashes with your world view, but you are a Welfare Queen expecting others to pay for you.
            Man up and take responsibility for your own shit.

            >start pushing for better weight scaling of road fees.
            What do you think I've been advocating for for years?
            One of the best ways to lower the cost of maintaining the roads and keep them in better shape, is to have good regulations about vehicle weight.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fossil fuel vehicles pay less than what?
            If the fossil fuel vehicles don't pay for the road, who does?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            gas pump per-gallon sale taxes amount to 16 billion dollars a year, just how in the frick much do tesla owners contribute to the roadways? Oh fricking my you pay an extra $300 on your 2 year registration? Get fricked loser.

            Fossil fuel vehicles pay less than what?
            If the fossil fuel vehicles don't pay for the road, who does?

            he's moronic and brainwashed just insult him and move on

            fricking have a nice day already

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            he isn't gorilla tier stuppid, he's a discord troony shill

            You can post the articles and documents showing an EV with rebate credit costs the people >$15k in unfunded liabilities, while showing the proof that gasoline is both not subsidized and taxed appropriately, and he will repeat the same arguments over and over and over and over.

            And he'll keep spewing his moron troony Black person shit every single day. For years.

            This person is a legitimate shill attempting to brainwash people into believing gasoline costs $18.50 per gallon in tax subsidies.
            Despite the fact that such a thing would cost the federal government 7 billion barrels time 55 gallons times $18.50 = 7 trillion dollars per year.

            He is both a moron, a Black person, a troony, a shill, a brainwashed plebe, and a vile instigator.
            And he deserves to die.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The people who make e85 use diesel to farm and move it and natgas power to convert and blend it which tells me enough.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Problem is they dont have other choices to run those harvesters, tractors, big trucks than diesel.

      It isn't because more is being injected, it's because the latent evaporation temp/pressure of alcohols is lower so it evaporates more/faster, so it "pulls more heat from" the air charge. This is because state-changes in all matter (a liquid phasing into gaseous state for example) require energy to transition from a phase, not just reaching a certain energy level (temperature).
      The -ratio relative- amount injected is only a minor effect when compared to the saturation capacity of air (which is the cooling limiter, much like the humidity limit for evap coolers for a building), and especially the cylinder pressures of a burning mixture.

      [...]
      ethanol has 20% less energy and needs 30% more for proper stoich ratio.

      [...]
      >growing the corn incurs massive farming subsidies
      >corn is a huge water-waste
      >corn depletes soil nutrients quicker than most regular food crops
      >corn accelerates topsoil erosion faster than most regular food crops
      >the patent-owned process for producing corn ethanol is the only reason this is allowed to continue

      No, frick you. Ethanol is fine, corn ethanol is moron Black person shit supporting some rich israelite and a lot of lazy, corrupt, already rich farm conglomerates and farming mega corporations
      have a nice day.

      >Farmers are lazy.
      Lol you are stupid person. Im not farmer but I know few farmers, in reality most farmers work harder than majority of city people ever do in their whole lives. Farmers often work 8 hours as minimum, sometimes even 12+hours, they work even during weekends. Machines do need every year maintenance, repairs, replacements. In reality most farmers are not rich as you think, some tof those actually rich farmers own company or have second job. Tractors, harvesters are more expensive than cars.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Farmers are lazy though. They work hard for a few weeks out of the year at most. I know, I grew up on an alfalfa farm.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cargill shill detected. It's NOT sustainable without massive government subsidies. It also results in clearing thousands of acres of land that could be used for food, using millions of gallons of chemicals that frick with ecology. It does not burn cleaner, and is bad for engines.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    EV israelites hate e85

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      my long floppy foreskin and I hate E85 because it's one big boondoggle.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    like whiskey
    it smells like cheap tequila and reminds me of an awful time everytime i get a whiff of it.
    i hate the way it smells.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always fill up with e15 before the smog test.
    Never fails.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >have to buy expensive ass fuel pump(s)
    >sensor kit
    >different tune
    >it burns really fast

    Pass. Not that I even have a choice since you can't get it in Washington lel.

  23. 2 months ago
    s10fag

    Easier to find ethanol free 90 in rural ky

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw the nearest gas station to me still has ethanol free 87

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are Americans that primitive and behind that they use such low octane? Kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >babies first RON vs AKI

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >sustainable
    not actually true, it's a huge waste of good arable land, basically only viable due to massive subsidies paid to corn farmers with taxpayer money because they're too fricking moronic to grow anything else

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's moronic to burn crops for fuel. I would rather drive EVs at that point.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sadly, it's only just 87.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because my truck can't take anything more than 15% ethanol. Doesn't help that ethanol destroys everything especially small engine stuff.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would but I am a diesel guy. If ever degeade back to gasoline I will install ethanol conversion or buy flex fuel

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >They don't sell it where I live

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lots of opec shilling itt.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Is it possible the people on an automotive enthusiasts board would just like fuel?
      >NO! It must be coordinated shilling from big oil.

      Go back

      [...]

      !

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking McDonald's shills on DA, shills could be here too.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    HP boost
    if you have a car that's flex fuel capable with an alcohol sensor or if you can tune to take advantage of it. it's not a magical juice that gives you more power from just filling up with it.
    >Why wouldn't you?
    Because I'll make less power with it over 93 and get shit fuel mileage and a lean code.

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