DISCUSSION: When is a sports/muscle car, considered a super car?

The world is over saturated with extremely powerful cars now, which are easily accessible for average people.

The ZL1's, Hellcat's, and C8's of the world are fast and powerful every-man cars, where Ferrari Lamborghini etc.. all collectively cater to a wealthier clientele. Even electric cars, with all their instant torque, seem to fit the bill. There are a large variety of cars that can match, if not completely out perform the competition for significantly less money. But at what point is a fast car considered a "super car" super?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's not a rigorously established line between sports cars and supercars, but generally if a car manufacturer has a reputation for making muscle/sports cars and has a make that's significantly faster than its "standard" sports cars then it's considered a hypercar.
    Here are some examples:
    >Chevy: Camaro vs. Corvette
    >Ford: Mustang vs. GT
    >Dodge: Charger/Challenger vs. Viper
    >Nissan: Z vs GTR
    >Porsche: Base 911 vs higher trims

    There are also some specialty companies that don't even mess with affordable sports cars and only produce supercars by default e.g. Lamborghini, McLaren, etc.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      'supercar' is a journo term, take the corvette for example it beats the shit out of many cars that have that moniker and even something like the zl1 gt500 do the same but since they aren't overpriced garage queens from yuropoor people contest the moniker. To some people supercar is a performance metric to others it has to be some 200k+ yuropoor exotic, to me it just means the car has great performance and speed.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes but nobody cares about europoors or their shit opinions
        vettes and gtrs are better than most eurogay "supercars" but they're too far up their own asses to realize that

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          'supercar' is a journo term, take the corvette for example it beats the shit out of many cars that have that moniker and even something like the zl1 gt500 do the same but since they aren't overpriced garage queens from yuropoor people contest the moniker. To some people supercar is a performance metric to others it has to be some 200k+ yuropoor exotic, to me it just means the car has great performance and speed.

          >wears a $25 Walmart Olev 5565 because it displays the time as good as a Rolex Daytona and is just as shiny

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Let's see your timestamped Rolex collection maybe you'll have some pateks in there too kek

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If that olevs had a $30k MSRP im sure you’d be sucking it off though

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >new olevs
            >made in Geneva!
            >double turbion
            >only 500 hundred will be made
            >that will be $450,000 plus tip
            Watchgays are fricking moronic, fantasize about getting fleeced somewhere else

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            case in point, eurotards waste their $1000 of disposable income on a "status symbol" (they have gotten a single compliment on it their entire lives (from the israeliteeler who sold it to them))
            people like you who are so vain that you spend money on things purely to pretend like you're not a poorgay are only "liked" by salesmen and similar people who know you lack financial literacy
            unless you have a genuine interest in israeliteelry in which case post + explain your favorite piece right now

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I agree. A supercar has to have under 4s 0-60 a top speed of at least 195mph and weigh under 3,900 pounds.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes but nobody cares about europoors or their shit opinions
        vettes and gtrs are better than most eurogay "supercars" but they're too far up their own asses to realize that

        "supercar" has always been an elitist term that has more to do with muh exclusivity than actual performance, as evident by the abitrary shifting of qualifications to exclude american performance vehicles at every turn

        https://i.imgur.com/qVIkXkR.jpg

        >what is the technical definition of this marketing term?
        OP it's like asking what's the difference between running shoes and SUPER running shoes

        Here's the CTO of Pininfarina saying the difference is that hyper cars are designer-oriented while sports cars are production-oriented.

        Over 2 million dollars for a bespoke "super" car vs a 50 thousand dollar used Corvette "sports" car.

        >it's a supercar because uhh...they made less of them!

        Seriously?

        even that's bullshit because all the entry level "supercars" share the same chassis/architecture, mass production methods etc across the lineup. Why are the latest iphone-mclaren 540/570/650 or ferrari 458/488/f8 considered supercars but not the gt500 or c8?
        When I say that the viper acr or picrel is my favorite supercar, why do homosexuals start crying about how they're not supercars?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          always liked these aero cars.
          also fun watching one mogging everyone, even if it's just a video game

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          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah they're fricking awesome

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but not the gt500 or c8
          because in the end they are just Ford and GM products for the masses rolling off the production lines by the 1000s and both are a common sight in the wild.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just recently saw the new corvette in the metal for the first time here in Australia and I thought it looked like a cheap Ferrari kit car like an MR2 with a loud body kit or something.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    these terms are so arbitrary it's like how Mehicanos and A-rabz are "white" on census forms, so it don't even matter no mo' cuz it's basically a useless datapoint

    these car labels serve no purpose other than for Asperger's guys on the internet to go "nuh uh, it's a pony car, not musshole car!" and stupid endless cyclical threads like that

    super car vs hyper car vs whatever--just buy what you enjoy, who cares what some random constantly-changing arbitrary label it is

  4. 4 weeks ago
    s10fag

    wait... a c8 is cheaper than a rivian, cybercuck, or one of the frickhuge suvs?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what is the technical definition of this marketing term?
    OP it's like asking what's the difference between running shoes and SUPER running shoes

    Here's the CTO of Pininfarina saying the difference is that hyper cars are designer-oriented while sports cars are production-oriented.

    Over 2 million dollars for a bespoke "super" car vs a 50 thousand dollar used Corvette "sports" car.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's a supercar because uhh...they made less of them!

      Seriously?

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's a marketing term. for example chevy calls their own car a supercar, if it's a z06 trim but not the stingray. maybe they'll call the zr1 a hypercar who knows.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >But at what point is a fast car considered a "super car" super?
    It's not only about speed it's also about exclusive brand.
    Porsche 911 is also fast, maybe even faster than some actual supercars but nobody considers it a supercar, it's just sports car.
    All these popular brands can't be exclusive enough to grant supercar term. Viper is fast, Corvette is fast but they do not have brand renome like Ferrari or Lambo.

    VW made a supercar level performer, W12 Nardo. However it's still VW, so nobody would consider it's brand-exclusive.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Supercar just means a boutique car that is hand built and not mass produced with a focus on an almost artistic level of "excess." Consequently, they are overpriced for what you get performance-wise, and not even necessarily the best in performance, but unobtainable anywhere else when speaking about the components. The sound and personality of the engines is that of fine art.

    Usually they are expensive to run and maintain. Supercars are most of the time not reasonably dailyable and act as museum pieces, garage queens, show pieces, and collector's cars that appreciate in value.

    The Corvette and especially Z06 tread this line. They match or exceed supercar performance with the huge upside that they are made to be driven and reliable, and the ones that don't also act as museum pieces and collector's cars.

    Basically supercars aren't necessarily about performance but scarcity and excess.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I guess it would depend on the time frame in which it was built, although a common theme is lack of mass production.
    Perhaps today we might say that a requirement for a supercar would be to use a carbon fiber body and frame.

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