>German engineer's face when putting the timing chain at the back of the engine for no reason at all

>German engineer's face when putting the timing chain at the back of the engine for no reason at all

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The reason is to charge engine out time.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When will poorgays learn?
    Cars are only any good when they are new.
    Older than 5 years MAX equals junk

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My car is 45
      Is NOT junk

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >for no reason at all
    engineerlet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      post toolbox, won't happen. Frick automatics btw.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        wrenchlet

        I'm happy to learn the "engineering" behind the decision anon

        [...]
        Nice timing chain you have there.... it'd be a real shame if it stretched...

        packaging, since the engines need to be 100% in front of the axles and have zero space to spare in the front but plenty in the rear

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          timing chain in the back of the engine makes the engine package shorter so it can fit in more places

          >a timing chain at the front of the motor adds length to the motor
          >but a timing chain at the back of the motor doesn't add length to the motor

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            dude never touched a screwdriver in his life

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >it just does bro trust me bro
            >STOVES bro

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            here you go

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ah yes, of course - the timing chain and the flywheel occupy the same space.
            Why didn't I think of this obvious explanation?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            because you are not an engineer and your iq is too low to think in 3d

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >because you are not an engineer and your iq is too low to think in 3d
            post a timing chain occupying the same plane as a flywheel.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            no

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >it was real in my mind

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            more like this, little wrenchlet

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >spelling the shit out for ricers
            >not just ridiculing then
            youre doing it all wrong

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Dumbasss

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the relevant part is the cylinder heads which need to house thick variable timing adjusters on the cam sprockets. with the chain in the back these can effectively hang over the transmission bellhousing freeing up ~2-3 inches in the front of the motor. the engine would not fit if these were in the front.

            https://i.imgur.com/0FRm5Lv.jpeg

            dude never touched a screwdriver in his life

            wrenchlet

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >wrenchlet
            man shut the frick up you dumbass ricer. post a timing chain and flywheel on the same plane. post a single wrench. wont happen. N

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            here, hopefully this picture will help clear things up for you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            bro you have never touched a wrench in your life and you are moronic as frick. stick to discussing LED interior mood lighting and carbon fiber trim.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Those VVT pulleys don't seem to extend any further than the second chain.
            The space required to run the two chains would be the same on the front of the engine as it is on the back.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            they stick out past the rear of the flywheel

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I see they've double stacked the cam chains too so they're actually in line with the forward oil pump chain and therefore the pulleys stick out further.
            A complex solution to a complex problem if you ask me.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >A complex solution to a complex problem
            absolutely. that is german engineering for you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the relevant part is the cylinder heads which need to house thick variable timing adjusters on the cam sprockets. with the chain in the back these can effectively hang over the transmission bellhousing freeing up ~2-3 inches in the front of the motor. the engine would not fit if these were in the front.

            [...]
            wrenchlet

            https://i.imgur.com/5FLsQVK.jpeg

            here, hopefully this picture will help clear things up for you

            bro you have never touched a wrench in your life and you are moronic as frick. stick to discussing LED interior mood lighting and carbon fiber trim.

            calling people wrenchlets is insane to me because it tells me there's people who genuinely like to work on cars for fun and not because they have to like some sort of mechanic larper or wrenching enthusiast weirdo. I'm not gonna sit and pretend I love working on cars, shit sucks but I'm not paying a mechanic $200 a hour to do a worse job than I'm capable of doing most of the time

            it's a bad design end of story not helped by the chain guides self destructing and the engine having nasty oil consumption problems, it's obviously not DIY friendly but fine if you work at a Audi dealer and can drop a powertrain using your lift in a day

            >Timing CHAIN will outlive an engine
            Tell that to VW. The 1.4 TSI I4 they put in some of their smaller cars is infamous for the tensioners going bad and the chain getting ruined after it loosens a bit (along with the engine burning and/or leaking a bottle of oil a month).
            At least you can usually hear chain issues happening, unlike the ecoboom wet belt that just destroys the engine---either very quickly or very quietly.
            I think the 1.5 TSI I4 that replaced it just used a dry belt, which is a perfectly adequate solution for a cheap shitbox engine.

            Honestly idk how VW can still not make a good timing chain. Iirc even the Mk7-7.5 2.0Ts have chain tensioner issues at higher miles. Ford is another one guilty of that, 4.0 Cologne V6, 5.4 3vs, and now the 3.5 Ecoboosts and 5.0 Coyotes. It's like BMW not mastering the water pump after 35 years.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't always enjoy working on cars, sometimes it sucks, but a lot of the time I do.
            But it helps to choose a good make and model of car that's designed to be easy and sensible to work on.
            *cough* OLD TOYOTAS *cough*

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            personally i fricking hate it and would skip it 8/10 times but i also dislike getting israeliteed by shops

            nothing better than covered in grease/oil, rolling around on concrete, ruining nice clothes, scraping the frick out of my arms/knuckles, having to plank on top of my engine to reach the back until my abs are sore, dealing with rusted/stuck bolts, getting shit in your eyes/hair and having to shower with dawn dish soap body scrub, etc.

            the way people on DA throw wrenchlet around makes me think they dont actually work on cars, it sucks half the time and the older i get the less i look forward to doing it. often when i get shit done i have to take the next few days to relax

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, working on cars sucks. Between my last three cars I’ve spent a non-negligible amount of time under cars, cursing, bashing my knuckles, breaking something that turns my 2-hour fix into a weekend-long ordeal. It’s not fun.
            I imagine building a project is pretty fun, but maintenance or fixing broken shit really isn’t. Now that I have a decent paying career I can afford to just have some mechanic get his hand dirty while I go home and relax. It’s honestly a good feeling after being on the other side for years.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            as with pretty much everything in life, too little not good, too much also not good. one day i said frick it and just got a shop to do replace the brake master cylinder for me because at the time i really could not be bothered fricking around with brake fluid, bench bleeding the cylinder and worrying about the paint
            having a wrenching buddy that you can goof around with really does change a lot of this though.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >OLD TOYOTAS
            yeeaaap
            >sips monster
            although mind you, pic related is now wrecked 🙁
            engine and gearbox still good though. next weekend im gonna pull it out and put it into an intact one i got

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Have you given up on the yank tank?
            Or are you swapping that stuff over with the hope of selling it for a higher price?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the yank tank is on its way to me. getting my neighbour to drive it here, i can definitely trust him with it
            found a company that can drop off and pick up an engine crane for rent, and they have a deal going on where if i hire it over the weekend, i only pay for one day.
            getting a mate to pull out the front end of the wreck, gonna hold onto it as a backup while i decide what im going to do with the old dodge
            worst comes to worst if i dont like the tank i'll just drive it for a bit then sell it, already see someone in sydney who's been looking for one for a while now.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That might make sense on an Audi with plenty of room above the transmission due to an engine-forward AWD system, but German's be doing that shit to FR BMWs now too. For a traditional FR layout there is less clearance behind the head than in front of it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            can't speak to the BMWs, all the BMW engines i've worked on and owned have had the chains in the front

            bro you have never touched a wrench in your life and you are moronic as frick. stick to discussing LED interior mood lighting and carbon fiber trim.

            wrenchlet

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >can't speak to the BMWs
            you cant "speak to" shit moron

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >putting the timing chain at the back of the engine
            I want there to be a recall on something to do with the timing chain so the dealerships are frick by hundreds of to thousands of engine out jobs.

            https://i.imgur.com/8n5lRrP.png

            here you go

            https://i.imgur.com/5oFybnj.jpeg

            more like this, little wrenchlet

            I saving a 3 inches is so fricking important.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the engine bay is meant for 4cyl turbos and v6s so yeah, same reason the b5 s4 was a shitty car

            tiny engine bay and big motor

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm happy to learn the "engineering" behind the decision anon

      Timing CHAIN will outlive an engine

      Nice timing chain you have there.... it'd be a real shame if it stretched...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        timing chain in the back of the engine makes the engine package shorter so it can fit in more places

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If it stretch, you shouldn't change it. The new chain is too short and will break.

        Never change timing chains.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >If it stretch
          stopped reading right there, anyone else know this feel?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            A guy replaced his BMW's perfect timing chain. Come the next week, the new chain broke. Don't be this guy, even if you are a native englishman.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >*bends your valves*
          Heh... nothing personnel, kid.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You can bet more to a chain that has naturally elonged during the years, than a complete new chain. Would you want your spine replaced?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            When the chain stretches it puts off the valve timing moron.
            Yes I would love a new spine of the proper length when I get old and my spine shrinks 2 inches.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The valve timing will be completly off when the new chain snaps. The valves will hit the pistons. But be my guess, it's a day's work and fingers crossed for a week or two.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It is a common problem for GM V6s to stretch their timing chain and bend valves.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >GM
            Manufacturer issue. Does not happen with Ford

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Tell that to the 4.0 SOHC

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The SOHC version was introduced in 1997 in the Ford Explorer, alongside the original pushrod version. It features a variable length intake manifold and produces 210 hp (157 kW; 213 PS) and 254 lb⋅ft (344 N⋅m)f. (The variable length intake manifold was discontinued in 1998, replaced by a standard intake.) It uses a jackshaft in place of a camshaft to drive a timing chain to each cylinder head. Three timing chains are used, one from the crank to the jackshaft, one in the front of the engine to drive the cam for the left bank, and one on the back of the engine to drive the cam for the right bank. In addition, the 4WD Ranger with the SOHC 4.0 had a 4th timing chain driving what Ford called a balance shaft. Ford has since phased out the engine in favor of the more powerful and efficient Duratec 37.[5]

            what. nvm, just buy duratec/duratorq/powerstroke

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >*explodes in 1.0 Ecoboost*

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing happens with ford because those turds can't even start.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Audi's AWD system puts the engine ahead of the front axle, so any centimeter saved on engine length helps. Putting the chain setup at the back and making it drive the balance shaft, oil pump, water pump and AC compressor let them package things very tightly. The only accessory on the front of the engine is the alternator.
        Another benefit is the crank being put under less twisting force, as all the load is at one side (as opposed to the gearbox pulling on one side and the timing and accessories loading down the other), which contributes to the RS4/RS5/R8 version of the V8 revving all the way to 8500 despite being a very undersquare design.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Once again it does not make the engine any shorter, if anything it pushes the main bulk and weight of the engine further forward.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It all but eliminated the front accessory drive and put the cam phasers above the bellhousing, if you compare the chain-driven Audi V8s to their belt-driven predecessors the belt-driven ones are about 50mm longer.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so lets make the chain system super hard to work on in the back of the engine so we dont have to have a 2 inch cutout on the radiator support... such a big brain move, or better yet, lets make it an engine out procedure.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/5FLsQVK.jpeg

            here, hopefully this picture will help clear things up for you

            Harmonic balancer sticks out just as much as those cam lumps would have. Could have taken the 1inch of chains and chain drives off the back and kept it on the front since itd shift everything back 1 inch

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Another benefit is the crank being put under less twisting force, as all the load is at one side (as opposed to the gearbox pulling on one side and the timing and accessories loading down the other), which contributes to the RS4/RS5/R8 version of the V8 revving all the way to 8500 despite being a very undersquare design.
          You can rev a 7.0l LS to 8500 if you just change the valve springs. Black person.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            bruz you can't even rev an LS to the stock limiter without bending rods, munching lifters and slipping the crank angle cog.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >revving all the way to 8500 despite being a very undersquare design
          Do wrenchlet nongineers really still believe the over/under square cylinder shit affects the rev range? There is no correlation between torque, RPM range, and stroke/bore ratio. Oversquare engines can offer a larger valve area relative to their displacement, so a "highly specced" one can rev higher and faster than a comparable undersquare engine because it's got bigger valves, more flow. The biggest advantage of an undersquare engine is packaging, making a smaller engine, which is why they're expected of engines designed specifically for front-wheel-drive applications.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What did you expect from a euroBlack person who unironically defends shut like

            https://i.imgur.com/5FLsQVK.jpeg

            here, hopefully this picture will help clear things up for you

            Clearly the only tool that gay has ever held is his boyfriend's

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            wow that post has still got you shook a day later huh

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/1uO5eJu.jpeg

          It all but eliminated the front accessory drive and put the cam phasers above the bellhousing, if you compare the chain-driven Audi V8s to their belt-driven predecessors the belt-driven ones are about 50mm longer.

          >defending g*rman slop
          post toolbox, you won't

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically packaging. Audi did it because cam adjusters are wide (figure 2-3 inches for the gear and actuator) and the space above the transmission is free. BMW does it now because pedestrian impact requirements means that extra inch or two up front is a hard point that can hurt heckin pedestrianinos.

        Im an audi gay so I can list the following examples:
        2.5 inline 5 - already a long engine designed for fwd. It even has a twin belt setup to save space similar to later volvo 5 cyls
        Vr6 - also fwd and almost a fricking inline 6, space concerns
        4.2 and later V engines - audi puts the motor so far forward because the front diff is integrated into the transmission, there is NO room up front in a b6/b7 s4.

        Youll notice the 1.8/2.0 tsi has the chain upfront because that frickers short

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          See

          Once again it does not make the engine any shorter, if anything it pushes the main bulk and weight of the engine further forward.

          and

          [...]

          Harmonic balancer sticks out just as much as those cam lumps would have. Could have taken the 1inch of chains and chain drives off the back and kept it on the front since itd shift everything back 1 inch

          There is NO REASON those chains NEED to be on the back of the engine

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Take your meds.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but after reading your autism I can assure you that YOU need meds if you think German slop is good. There is NO reason for the Krauts to put all of their shit in the worst place imaginable.

            Cool you saved 3 pubes worth of room for a tiny talking point to boast with as your wallet bleeds the second any regular maintenence is needed.
            >Audi dog ass S4 thermostat location is a act against God and all things wrenches.
            >So many fricking wrenchlets in this thread it hurts and none will post their ride, their toolbox, or their hands.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Please don't project your autism onto me.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's a self report if I've ever seen one lmao!

            God speed wrenchlet. You're gonna have a hard life haha.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Weirdo.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you want a boring car that's reliable and easy to fix, buy a Honda Civic. That's what they're made for, and they're excellent commuter cars. Cars that have more bells and whistles than just "gets me to work, has air-conditioning and radio" are going to cost more and generally be more complex, and cost more as a result.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Theres a plethora of exciting cars that are actually well designed to be pro-technician.

            No I'm not going to list all of them. But hey you can continue riding in your cuckmobile and be the paypig mama always wanted you to be by hanging your slop over to a real wrench or stealership

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Okay list some of them then.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Still waiting

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >umm akshually designing my car like dogshit is what makes it exciting
            COPE

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >chain upfront because that frickers short
          Dont the more recent V6 also have the chains at the back? Whats up with that?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Shared engineering, all those Audi V engines are part of the same family, V6, V8 and V10. Same bank angle, same bore spacing, share a lot of the same parts.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Shared engineering,
            Aka laziness

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Who the frick briefed you audi gays with this "muh cam phasers" cope? Did you all watch it on a popular youtube video or something? How come you're all saying the same thing?

          A cam phaser can overhang the harmonic damper and accessories belt at the front the same way it overhangs the transmission at the rear, the overall engine length is not changed.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Timing CHAIN will outlive an engine

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Timing CHAIN will outlive an engine
      Tell that to VW. The 1.4 TSI I4 they put in some of their smaller cars is infamous for the tensioners going bad and the chain getting ruined after it loosens a bit (along with the engine burning and/or leaking a bottle of oil a month).
      At least you can usually hear chain issues happening, unlike the ecoboom wet belt that just destroys the engine---either very quickly or very quietly.
      I think the 1.5 TSI I4 that replaced it just used a dry belt, which is a perfectly adequate solution for a cheap shitbox engine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I had a 2010 Jetta 2.0tsi that had the same issue. Scrapped that b***h for $500.

        Newest car I ever had and it was the worst car I’ve ever owned.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No the frick it won't wrenchlette.

      Hondas BARELY get by the 2-300k km mark at which point it's likely burning oil/rest of the car is rusted out

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dumb fricking troon doesnt even understand what a plane is lamo. so fricking stupid

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >design drive system for oil pump in the back of the engine
    >It's a wet belt

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      While anon is defending engineering decisions please explain why wet belts exist.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >guy at work has one of those 4 banger Colorado diesels
    >timing belt back of the engine
    >acts like it is more capable than a 3/4ton
    >trash talks my old dodges all day
    Is there a way where I can reach out through the astral plane and make the belt break sooner or will I have to sacrifice a small child. I really want to laugh at him when it breaks because he hasn't even deleted the belt even though we don't have inspections

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      *deleted the truck

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I sure hope these engines don't use plastic chain guides.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >No reason

    It's money. Everything about a car's engineering has a reason.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The reason is to charge engine out time.

      Some board room somewhere:
      >We're losing too much money on people keeping their cars too long or buying more than lightly used and still enjoying it. Does anyone have ideas to get these things off the road sooner after the warranty expires?
      >Some engineering manager whose soul was ground to dust by decades at VW pens this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This makes no sense, vws have always been GAY as FRICK unreliable shitheaps

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Meanwhile British engineers be like

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what the frick is this?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        iirc thats the grandiose britannica way of making a V6
        >grab a V8 blok, and only bore/ reem out 6 cilinders
        but Im as new here as you, so if anyone knows more, feel free to correct me

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To make a V6, they grabbed a V8 block and filled out 2 cylinders, instead of cutting them off like Alfa or GM

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The tooling costs-saving way to make a V6.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >French engineer's face putting timing belt in oil and sac for dpf fluid

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    german engineers when they used an air-cooled 6 cylinder engine to win le mans 7 times in a row in the 1980s against water-cooled twin-turbo V8s and 7 litre V12s:

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >teenage boys spend hours online and in person trying to compete stats with different dream cars
    >engineers get bored and need performance car projects to not quit
    >as a result, highly specialized engine designs begin to come out to maximize power, handling, etc.
    >everyone complains that their performance-based German engineering car isn't as simple to put back together as a Honda Civic, must have done it on purpose out of spite

    I'm pretty sure most Corvettes and the Supras are gonna be much harder to work on and with specialized decisions made in the engine bay than your average Camry, too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's also due to emissions and fuel economy around the world including Japan and even China which is why every car company is doing stuff like direct injection, gasoline particulate filters, small displacement turbos, 10 speed autos, and 3 cylinders.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Direct injection actually makes more power

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes but it also makes cars more difficult to own long term with carbonization issues, fuel dilution, expensive spares that can be difficult to service (seized injectors that can fail and flood cylinders, expensive high pressure pumps that leave you stranded when they fail), and wear on the valvetrain from the pump (cams, VW was known for this on the FSI motors + Mazda on the 2.3 DISIs)

          Toyota is the only brand to get it right with D4S where they combine port and direct injection to avoid the first issue.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >we put the timing chain at the back of the engine because THIS IS A HIGHLY SPECIALISED ENGINE WHICH MAXIMISES POWER AND HANDLING
      Yes tell me all about how the timing chain maximises power and handling

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        dont bother trying to enlighten terminal wrenchlettes, that way madness lies

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Overall shorter engine -> better weight distribution + better aerodynamics because the front of the hood can be lower

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The engine doesn't magically become shorter because you moved the timing chain to the rear moron.
          If anything it makes weight distribution worse because instead of having the heavy block of the engine at the back and the mostly empty and light timing cases at the front, you have the light timing cases at the back and the whole block has to be shifted forwards.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off wrenchlette, literally half the car opens up on a Corvette they couldn't be any more easier and accessible than any comparable sports car

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ok so drop the transmission or do the harmonic balancer on one mechanic enthusiast

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not really going to argue with someone who won't post evidence to back his claims and I know 90% of this board has never paid more than $5,000 for a car but the whole "why is it so hard to get to????" arguments I see are most of the time from illegal alien mechanics who are mad at the idea of having to invest more time and money to fix something more complex than a Honda Civic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      FOR
      NO
      REASON
      AT ALL

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Post ride, toolbox, or hand, wrenchlet
      You won't

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Post a car you own that was built within the last decade.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the guy who's defending rear timing chains is an npc who thinks cars older than 10 years are bad

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Removing clutch cover on my fancy V4 honda
    10 minutes
    >Removing clutch cover on single cylinder BMW
    way fricking longer and you have to drain all the fluids and unbolt everything else on the engine to get the cover off

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Clearly the solution is to get rid of timing chain altogether and invest in freevalve

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