got me a new (used) weber for my shitbox project. just wanted to share the news

got me a new (used) weber for my shitbox project
just wanted to share the news

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >weber
    >in 2024
    Go pull a twincam EFI engine out of a car at the junkyard bro wtf

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wtf bro carbs are cool n shit
      efi is for daily drive shitbox not project car shitbox
      also i'm too dumb to understand efi

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You know what's cool as shit? Turning the key, your engine just running perfectly on its own, making more power and getting better fuel economy than your dirty old turd.
        The best thing? You can even do mad shit like add a turbo.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can add a turbo to a carb too or even cooler, a supercharger

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah go do it then

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if i cared about fuel economy i would drive a more modern car
          also my daily has EFI

          You can add a turbo to a carb too or even cooler, a supercharger

          getting 45 turbo dellortos and putting them in a volvo 242 is a dream of mine

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The great thing about swapping in a modern efi twincam motor is you get more fuel economy BUT ALSO more power and ALSO better reliability.
            Every other mod you do to an engine will be some sort of tradeoff but the jump to twincam EFI is better in every way.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i don't think if you noticed but i have a lada
            fuel economy, power and reliability are not things i really care about
            i only care about aesthetics
            shitboxes with carbs and traditional ignition are cool in my opinion
            i mean are you really suggesting i should put some modern engine into my volvo 144 just so i could get more power and better fuel economy?
            frick that shit

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't forget cool intake sounds, specifically ripped all the efi and voil on plug shit off my engine swap for a carb and dizzy because it's better

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You think a shitty old 2 barrel weber makes better intake noises than a tuned length EFI plenum?
            Delusion.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Efi needs to be tuned to sound good
            >You can just slap a carb on and it sounds good
            You're the delulu here

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Every half decent OEM EFI engine has come with a tuned length plenum for at least the last 30 years you brainlet

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes.
            Twin cam 4 valve EFI is the bare minimum in 2024, thousands of these engines get thrown into the scrap heap every year, theres no point fricking around with shitty old 2 valve carb motors anymore.
            Aftermarket carbs especially now that they've become so niche that they're actually more expensive than EFI.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The great thing about swapping in a modern efi twincam motor is you get more fuel economy BUT ALSO more power and ALSO better reliability.
            Every other mod you do to an engine will be some sort of tradeoff but the jump to twincam EFI is better in every way.

            It's a lot like the manual v slushbox debate.
            Leaving all the transmission stuff to a CVT or 10spd auto is obviously more efficient and comfortable than a manual transmission, BUT fiddling with a stick or a simple carb is just much more rewarding.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I like fiddling
            Wait until you head about these!
            EFI is nothing like a CVT or 10spd auto btw

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            but aftermarket carbs are cheaper than aftermarket EFI?

            You think a shitty old 2 barrel weber makes better intake noises than a tuned length EFI plenum?
            Delusion.

            i don't use the weber for tuning purposes i use it to get the car to run better
            EFI plenum is for tuning the car
            if i want some real nice intake sounds i put better carbs like dcoe on it
            the purpose of the shitbox is to slide on snow not tuning
            and if i want power i put Fiat twin cam on it with carbs and dizzy

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How come you didn't buy a brand new weber?
            $$$$$
            Wait until you find how much they rip you off even for little jets, or find out how much a specialist carb tuner costs if you want to go that route.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you see i have to order a new weber
            but i this one was for sale near me so i went to get it
            and if wanted new i would've bought i chinese weber copy fajs that cost only 200€ or something

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A new weber costs more than an aftermarket ECU
            Performance webers (DCOE, IDF) especially

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Kek a real 40IDF is only about $400, let's see your complete EFI system for that price.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't bother with fajs, sherryberg and the other chinkoids, just call free technics and grab a genuine one

            A new weber costs more than an aftermarket ECU
            Performance webers (DCOE, IDF) especially

            A new DGV is like 500 bucks.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            a speeduino or microsquirt is usually less than 500 new

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What about the actual fuel injection system?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well I'm personally advocating for an entire twincam EFI engine swap from one of the 10,000 perfectly good twincam EFI engines why a needlessly junked every day.
            Regardless, if you were to go performance carb you'd still need a manifold, the same way you'd need a manifold for EFI. Although adapters can often be found for non-performance carbs like the DGV, but perhaps a throttle body injector could be rigged for a similar cost for the equivalent performance.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why do you sound like a moron?
            >muh twincam efi engine swap
            >why doesn't everyone just do an engine swap
            >it's so easy to do an engine swap with a mystery meat engine that's full of carbon and sludge

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Look buddy there's just no point in fricking around with old dino motors anymore, either keep it stock and happily put around or start looking at the easiest cheapest way to get a twincam EFI 4 valve motor in there.
            This is my advice, you don't have to heed it if you don't want to.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, I don't think I will.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lol what a fricking moron, you should try /n/.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ah yes /n/ - the place for people who can actually wrench who upgrade classic carb cars with powerful twincam EFI turbo motors.
            Could you be perhaps MORE salty?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > there's just no point in fricking around with old dino motors anymore
            That's what salt looks like.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What you think I'm salty at the old dino motors? Like I'm offended by their poor performance or something?
            Lmao no! There's just no point fricking around with them when we live in a time where there's an abundance of economy engines which are basically the equivalent of racing engines from the carb days, or at least equivalent to sports car engines.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There's just no point fricking around with them
            >t. moron

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            not a very compelling argument

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How about you shove that twincamefiengineswap up your goddamn ass you fricking dipshit chatbot. Bet you can't say Black person.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why yes, it turns out you can be more salty.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Say literally any slur you frickin israelitebot

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dance for me boy
            I will specifically not, since you demanded I do.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Greased Geese

            >this moron cant dance

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yes.
            Twin cam 4 valve EFI is the bare minimum in 2024, thousands of these engines get thrown into the scrap heap every year, theres no point fricking around with shitty old 2 valve carb motors anymore.
            Aftermarket carbs especially now that they've become so niche that they're actually more expensive than EFI.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Greased Geese

          you look and sound like a soijak

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I've had more CFM of carb on a 1.3 litre engine than you've had on your big gay "Five point O" (4.9) buddy
            There's no point fricking around with that shit anymore, I make way more power cheaper and easier now by slapping a turbo on an economy EFI engine.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Greased Geese

            how about 6.6l slapping against your nose nerd

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post bread.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I already posted my old twin DHLA carb motor homosexual

            https://i.imgur.com/JpelMWz.jpg

            I've had more CFM of carb on a 1.3 litre engine than you've had on your big gay "Five point O" (4.9) buddy
            There's no point fricking around with that shit anymore, I make way more power cheaper and easier now by slapping a turbo on an economy EFI engine.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I daily drive carb vehicles in cold climate and I never have carb issues. Sounds like a skill issue on your part tbh.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You sound like you don't know how to tune a carb or build an engine to save your life. Tell me- Do you build engines, anon? It sounds like you just pull a junk yard engine and then just slap on an aftermarket ECU tune and think your hot shit and then when it finally gives up the ghost you just do it again like a moron. Ever think for a moment there is a reason people build cars with carbs?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't even slap aftermarket ECUs on them, I just drive them and they go fast - it's great!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day. Webers are SOVL twincam EFI is cringe soi for bugmen.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are wrenchlets intimidated by carbs?

      That particular style is highly reliable. I replaced the dead Bosch EFI on my Rabbit with one by using an Omni intake and a self-made adapter with insulating blocks. Another replaced the horrid stock carb on my Mitsubishi-engined D50.

      Carbs almost never strand the driver while an EFI pump failure means you walk. Carbs are a long-solved problem but DA loves to exaggerate.

      you see i have to order a new weber
      but i this one was for sale near me so i went to get it
      and if wanted new i would've bought i chinese weber copy fajs that cost only 200€ or something

      >you see i have to order a new weber

      Precisely why do you imagine that? You now have a carb so your problem is solved. Remember this carb family includes millions of "Holley-Weber" style carbs readily available new old stock or remanned for less money, and unless your existing carb is destroyed they're dead simple to strip/dip/assemble.

      Holley 5210 is one part number that's easy to deal with. I don't live in cold weather so I discard the choke but you can drop on a spare electric choke or even better, convert to manual choke

      Jets are easily soldered then drilled to any smaller size desired or just drilled if too small (unlikely). Clamp drill bit in pin vise or visegrips, rotate jet between thumb and forefinger until bit breaks through, slide without rotation to debur and done.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I replaced the dead Bosch EFI on my Rabbit with one
        ShOuLdA dOnE a SwAp BrO jUnKyArD a FiAt MuLtIaIr TuRbO 1.4 lEeTeR bRo WoUlD bE sUcH uPgRaDe

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ah yes I'm a "wrenchlet" who's "intimidated" by the inferior performance of 2 valve carb engines - that's why I swapped a 4 valve EFI engine into my car.
        Of course! That makes sense......

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post literally any evidence of your amazing engine swap.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dance for me monkey
            Guess what buddy? I don't care if you believe me.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Annoying little homosexual frog poster begone

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DGV? Katto aukiaako molemmat kurkut kaasu pohjas.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no mitä helevettiä taas harrastaako täällä vain suomalaiset vanhoja paskaboxeja vai mistä arvasit?
      noh kummatki aukeaa samaan aikaan pitää vähän kattoa vivuston kiinnityksiä niin saa sen auton hytän sisältä toimimmaan

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Samaan aikaan? Onko niitä freetechnicsin modaamia deegeeveetä? Muistaakseni vakio DGV kurkut on "progressiiviset" ja se toinen kurkku aukeaa vasta yli puolenkaasun.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          niin niitten pitäisi olla semmosia mutta kummassakin näytti avautuvan samaan aikaan kun vivustoa alkoi liikuttaan niin pakko sitä kai tässä vaiheessa on uskoa

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Juu no ei siinä, ittellä muistaakseni yhes rojekti pemarissa oli ongelma että meinasi hukkua kun truuttas kaasun pohjaan kun avautuivat samaan aikaan.

            Yeah go do it then

            On it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This pic is oooooooooold
            I've turboed two efi cars in the time since you first posted this

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Greased Geese
  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Weber gang

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get a 4A-FE or 7A-FE in there PRONTO lad

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        3AC but i sold the car last month

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      checked

      I've got a 38/38 DGMS on my Jeep/AMC 4.2L

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Weber DGV or DCOE for my new project car?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Greased Geese

      holley 350

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Illegal in frozen wasteland of communism. Only carburetors seized in the now 107 years war of oppression and those you can obtain from our comrades in our glorious sister nation of China.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >glorious sister nation of China
          Get an Autolite 2 barrel

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't a 350 holley for sbc V8 or am I mixing it with something else?
        Overkill for a 4 banger if it is.
        Also kinda hard to get compared to a weber in Finland

        • 4 weeks ago
          Greased Geese

          a 350 holley is a 2barrel holley.
          a 600-650 is what you'd put on a smallblock.
          I got one for like 40 bucks off ebay a few weeks ago and just replaced the power valve/accelerator pump diaphram and it went straight to working.
          only thing I had to fix was the accelerator pump cover was leaking and I sanded it on a 2x4 and it quit leaking.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A 350 Holley is a 350CFM 2-barrel carb, perfectly suitable for a wide variety of engines. For comparison, a 32/36 DGV flows around 240CFM, and a Weber 40DCOE flows about 350CFM, same as the 350 Holley.
          Carburetors are chosen primarily by their airflow, you choose an appropriate one based on your engine displacement and RPM range. 4-banger, V8, doesn't matter. The rough equation that's been around forever: Displacement (Cubic Inches) x Peak RPM / 3456
          For example, a 2.5l 4-banger, that's 152 cubic inches, with a 5400RPM redline, that's 238CFM.
          You always aim over with carbs, you do NOT want the carb to be the restriction, so you overshoot. For this hypothetical 2.5l, calculated 238CFM, we'd aim for more like a 280-350CFM carb, so something like the Holley 350 would likely be perfectly good, as would the 40 DCOE. A 32/36 DGV though, that'd barely meet your airflow requirements with no overshoot at all, it'd be a good choice if your goal was squeezing fuel-efficiency out of it, but a terrible choice for squeezing a little performance out of it.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    webers are cool, I've had a couple and I like them
    I wish you could get jets for these, I don't want to have to swap it out with a 32/36

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Carb gang

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have both who's side do I join? Probably the side that's allowed to say Black person and israelites right?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    update
    new carb in car
    don't got throttle linkage and choke cable and i need like 3 hands to adjust them while trying to start
    car still doesn't run

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Got spark?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yup
        it tries to start but suddenly it feels like i lose spark or something
        it's raining snow now and i'm wet as frick so gotta try again tomorrow

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I just wire the choke open for testing. Car should start without. If in doubt about cap/rotor/plugs/wires replace but of course verify spark first. It might need a coil but if any wiring was disturbed examine it.

          You can normally hotwire old engines like that by a clip lead from your positive terminal to the ignition coil which help troubleshoot upstream components like key switch.

          Keep fire extinguisher and a wet towel handy in case of backfire-induced fire.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you have spark at the right time?
          Breakers open and close at the right time, condensator still fine?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i don't even know anymore
            it was correct at some point but it's been a while since i touched it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Getting ignition/spark parts aside for mansemotors is a bit questionable.
            Personally would recommend just getting an espark contactless system for like 50 bucks

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it is shitty axtec contactless system currently and i'm like 75% sure all my problems are because of it
            gotta google espark

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Google Pertronix too.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah Ladas use a bosch style dizzy if memory serves, an espark should slot right in

            Google Pertronix too.

            Overkill for a Lada and too expensive

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >holley sniper efi
    >$1500
    >A regular 350 holley
    >$500

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >megasquirt
      >$500

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And how much for the injectors, sensors and mapping, last one you can do at home though

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Again your holley will likely need a manifold, unless you can get an adapter to bolt it to your stock manifold, in which case it will bring minimal gains.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can just make my own adapter plate from a piece of aluminium, been there done that.
            Much cheaper than fabbing or buying an injector intake manifold

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You could also make your own adapter plate and injector boss for a junkyard throttlebody

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            True, you can just drill and weld whatever intake for injectors, then you need sensors, a throttle body, high pressure fuel pump and a fuel rail.
            It quickly adds up, while a carb you just slap there and stick some cheapo 5psi pump to it. Done and dusted.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't bother, he's in denial and despises carburetors because one touched him inappropriately. Anyone who thinks EFI conversion is remotely comparable in price to slapping a new carb on is a bus rider.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Greased Geese

            tbi in theory are efficiant but the self tuning carberator kits frickin mostly suck and if you'd just take the time to learn how to tune a holley you'd come out much cheaper to buy an afr/vac guage and a jet/pv kit by hundreds of dollars.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The self-tuning TBI shit are still far more expensive than a carburetor. The cheapest ones out there are still around $800-$1000 and don't include a high pressure fuel pump, and that's the cheap shit option that's not worth your time. That's a lot of cash to spend to then have to go and purchase and install a high pressure pump, bung in the O2 sensor, replace all your soft fuel lines, all so you can get 5% better gas mileage than you'd have gotten with a decent carb and tune? I mean we all know it won't make more power, there's no magic there.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The EFI gay is immunized against all dangers, but ask him how much injectors cost and you will be astonished at how he recoils

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >just grab them from a junkyard
            My biggest issue with fitting efi to a classic car is getting crank/camshaft position signal for the ECU

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I hate when the engine already has working crank/cam sensors, but they're of such a variety they're totally useless for any aftermarket ECU even in the cases where you "can" use them.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How much? Might need one too

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Dracula

    Yes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look at that little guy go! Isn't he cute?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Dracula

        Better than K-Jet.

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