Is it possible to have a modern car that doesn't phone home?

Is it possible to have a modern car that doesn't phone home?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ride a horse

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ride a steel horse

      https://i.imgur.com/GhuDr2P.jpg

      >manual

      Please blow your brains out

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        enjoy lyme disease

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          pussy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and by a horse, I mean me.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    take the bus

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Public transport sucks shit and I'm in one of the better states for it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Black people?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I am black. It's just incovenient, like turning a 30 minute trip into an hour or more. Buses aren't very frequent so if you miss one that's another 30 minutes of waiting (an hour on weekends). The trains are usually pretty good when they're not down because of maintenance.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not black and the public transportation in the US sucks so much ass it was a cultural shock when I first came.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In the US, everyone and their granny owns a car. We celebrate personal independence here. Where as in other countries, poorer governments have to pool their resources together.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you're being cucked by the israelites.
            imagine all the fee, tax and insurance you have pay to every year on the fricking car you own on top of paying off your car mortgage.
            after 10 years your car is worth 20% of the price you bought it for.
            lol, lmao even.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            America is 50% richer than Europe, so we can afford it. Europeans are poor so they have to pool together and justify not having a car.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I dunno man, I own my house, car and have a (rather) mid job and I'm not even 30 yet. Can you say the same in your land of the free?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes half of it. America is the land of opportunity. Not the land of socialism.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty ironic how the most socialist states like CA and NY in the US are the richest and the redneck morons takes credit for it lmao.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did you take public transit to move your goalposts?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Interesting how the redneck states like South Dakota, Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Alaska and Nebraska all have the lowest gini coefficient but don't need socialist policies to achieve that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The big states want to apply policies they need to fix the externalities of their accumulated wealth to the entire nation without consideration to the fact that large swaths of the country would not need such policies. The inequal states like California and New York see their Brazil level inequality and the states with more equality see a different reality. But for some reason one sides refuse to acknowledge that their is a difference between them and apply their preferred policies to the other, at a national level.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >inequal states
            >create policies to create 10s of millions illegal immigration
            >wonder why there's inequality
            >MUST BE RICH BAD!!!

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >implying anyone pays for insurance anymore
            >your car mortgage
            LOL

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how come he didn't get shot?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's white.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >car mortgage
            You're being cucked by paying a car loan, or whatever this is, for more than a couple years. Just save up before getting the loan to lessen the interest you're paying, or just pay in cash. Is a fresh out the factory current year model really that important to you to be in debt for multiple years?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All those fees don’t even add up to $1k/year. Are you that poor that $1k is too much?
            Housing is where the israelites really rape you.
            >”Buy house”
            >Gov calls and it wants it rent money.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >We celebrate personal independence here
            I'd say you take it to a level where instead of being love of the independent it becomes fear of the communal.
            Understandable, because you're one of the few ""developed"" countries with such a violently dysfunctional society, but holy frick you Black folk are so afraid of people it's just pitiful.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pooling your resources together is more efficient and vastly cheaper than every individual driving their own metal box.
            It's not because you celebrate freedom. It's because you can't stand the rest of your fellow citizens. And it's sad you live in such a low trust society

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Pooling your resources together is more efficient and vastly cheaper than every individual driving their own metal box.
            mf I'm ok with paying more and have privacy and avoid smelling you. imagine being shamed into cucking yourself holy fricking shit you must be insane.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're the one cucking yourself out of money for fake """benefits""" like privacy outdoors

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Efficiency is only relevant when you're poor. For a rich country like US, everyone and their grandma has a car that they use to drive to grocery, not because we lack public transportation, but because we're a nation of independent minded people who can afford to buy a car.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What Independence? Most Americans live the life of a handicapped person who can't go anywhere without his wheelchair (car). You guys are more dependent that anyone in the world

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And we'll never have good public transit because muh cars muh freedom.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            European here, his question got me thinking and I'm not trying to offend you but I'm genuinely curious: if there are a lot of black people in the same bus as you, do you feel more safe or less safe, or do you feel like it doesn't affect anything in that situation? We don't have a lot of black people so the "us vs. them" isn't as big of a thing here. I'm trying to understand how it goes in the US.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hello eurofriend. People are usually well behaved on public transit here so I don't really care about the race. We all just want to get where we're going.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >people are we'll behaved on public transit in america
            Lmao. NY's had more murders on the subway in the last 3 years than the previous 20 combined

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not from NY so I wouldn't know.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is no reason to think the city bus won't have a camera doing facial recognition on all the passengers in <10 years. Almost certainly every city bus already has gps data simply to keep track of routes being on time.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >concerned about privacy
      >just take the bus.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Me on the left.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    (horse's cant use phones)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Moshi Moshi?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, buy pre-2010 one

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's what a sane person should do. Cars are just a mean of transportation

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cars are just a mean of transportation
        npcbrain

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes it is zoomer

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What about ten years from now when the pre-2010 cars will start to fall apart?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What did you just say, sonny Jim?!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Show me the odometer (if it even has one).
          That's not a car that's been driven 250k+ miles in salt and snow.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The point is that you can rebuild old cars. My granddad rebuilt cars like that. Just because you're a fat, lethargic, good-for-nothing doesn't mean that you can't keep old vehicles running.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            old cars were much simpler and were MEANT to be rebuilt. they were literally sold with parts list with specs so your local mechanic could build you a replacement.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your fear is simply is not true. If you were worried just own 2 of the same 5,000 car.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My 2021 tacoma is the latest thing I know where you can turn the cellular modem off. You just yank the DCM fuse out of the engine bay. However, it's built on a 10 year old platform, so I don't exactly think it's fundamentally modern, what's why you can do that. They couldn't think of a way to make it mandatory to start the car.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Theoretically yes, although no manufacturer makes such a car.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only way to get a modern analog car is to buy limited edition models that come every blue moon

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy Tesla. Stop updating software. Dont connect to wifi. Dont pay for monthly cell internet. Its straightforward and clear usage.

    If you want to update software, do so via wifi and then disable wifi.

    Ofcourse without internet, you lose access to real time sentry, real traffic, all the internet access from the screen (spotify, browser, media, etc).

    Dumb mode is still there. Your self driving works locally too without internet.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Buy Tesla. Stop updating software. Dont connect to wifi. Dont pay for monthly cell internet
      It still connects on its own though

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only thing that would connect is if you use their charging network which uses payment processing.

        Otherwise its all local. Charge at home.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Source? Most/all car companies include hidden telemetry that the customer has no way to see or control. Even if Tesla's infotainment crap doesn't phone home, there could still be a modem sending driving stats hidden away somewhere.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They only send driving data back if you're subscribed to their FSD program AND if you opt in to sharing data back OR if you're in their insurance program that tracks driving habits to give you discounts.

            Basic car just does basic things. You have to pay for on board premium sim connection with $10/m for the internet on car. Or if you use free access from their charging area so they can do the billing transactions. If you're paranoid, you can physically remove the sim card. There's plenty of guide.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sure that's what they say, but I mean has anyone actually verified this? I have a not-that-new car now which literally contains an internet connected modem somewhere inside of it, and sends telemetry data to Ford. I am not paying for any additional services, and I did not sign up for any app or account bullshit. Ford is footing the bill for that modem's network connectivity because the data is valuable to them. Most (all?) other car companies do the same thing. Some do it to monitor performance/problems/etc, some do it to sell that data to insurance companies if they find a way to tie the car to an individual.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Other companies sell their customer data to others because they want to make money. Tesla uses those data for their own interest, of which it is a user opt-in option.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lmao OK
            Buy an ad

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >le buy an ad meme
            is that your way of telling a shill to frick off?
            frick's sake, can you be less of a cuck next time?

            Other companies sell their customer data to others because they want to make money. Tesla uses those data for their own interest, of which it is a user opt-in option.

            frick all the way back to twitter and die in a fire you fricking cuck shill, and take with you. neither of you gets paid for shilling products that aren't yours

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They only send driving data back if you're subscribed to their FSD program AND if you opt in to sharing data back OR if you're in their insurance program that tracks driving habits to give you discounts.

            Basic car just does basic things. You have to pay for on board premium sim connection with $10/m for the internet on car. Or if you use free access from their charging area so they can do the billing transactions. If you're paranoid, you can physically remove the sim card. There's plenty of guide.

            Just buy a real car.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How will it connect? Through GSM? It's not free, who pays for it?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tesla pays for unlimited free internet for the lifetime of the car you fricking dumbass. They snitch you to every data collection company and agency that is willing to pay and they make so much money on your data that buying you free LTE connectivity worldwide is a bargain. It constantly records you and phones home.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Tesla pays for unlimited free internet for the lifetime of the car you fricking dumbass.
            Thanks, that's what I asked about. I don't buy cars and literally do not know anyone with an electric cars.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the problem is there is always an ongoing tesla recall

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nice, I have weekly recalls on my windows and iphone too. Do I get a triple prize?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          tesla would update your car to fix recall issues or void your serviceability

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Personal choice on whether or not to apply manufactured recommended fix. If you dont choose to follow recommended fixes, its not manufacturers fault. You could drive down to Tesla service stations and ask that your car not be updated from internet and only be updated form a locally hosted firmware via a laptop without wifi and only through a USB. But that would be your choice.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tesla literally has a camera pointed at the occupants of their cars, if anything it's the most intrusive manufacturer.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Personal choice to deter thieves and save lives for people forgetting their pets/babies/etc. Ofcourse the option to check these are only available via wifi connection because you cant have wires running around from the car all the across different states.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Buy Tesla
      >the most pozzed and botnetted vehicle of them all
      Hilarious

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Dont connect to wifi
      they have lists of open wifis that they will use.
      Unless you cut that antenna, its ratting you out.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only if you need superchargers. The open wifis there give free internet to Tesla cars.

        If you need to supercharge, then they need access to your account to bill you. Just charge at home.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There are plenty of other open wifis.
          xfinity does some dumb shit like leaving theirs open.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >need to replace headlight
      >have to do a software reset twice, once before replacing the headlight and again after replacing it
      no thanks, extra steps involved in car repair can frick off

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Buy Tesla. Stop updating software. Dont connect to wifi. Dont pay for monthly cell internet
      It still connects on its own though

      Oh you naive child. Teslas have cellular data always on, there is no way to disable it. Same for most (if not all?) new cars.
      What happens when you pay for wifi in the car, is that it lets YOU use it's connection.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you cut the wire to the antenna it ain't going to be connecting to anything.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    lorry

    Define modern.
    My 2018 Hyundai Ioniq EV doesn't phone home.
    It does have modern tech like lane assist and adaptive cruise control.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly normalgays are so cucked I doubt that there would even be a market for cars that don't spy on you.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tesla

    LMFAOOOO

    imagine buying the car that has the opposite of OPSEC

    teslacucks are so moronic bro

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read the privacy agreement thing the manufacturer provides. They usually allow you to call and tell them to stop tracking you. Depending on the car you can also opt out of a bunch of the data collection.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/IyGtwFB.jpg

      Is it possible to have a modern car that doesn't phone home?

      Just remove the tracking box and use your phone for gps. It's easy. Just dont be lazy like most people that snip the wires, take it out cleanly, put it with your owners manual and put it back before reselling it, maybe throw it back in before maintenance if you have a warranty

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How do?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They disable some features in your car and say the tracking is gone
      >They still track you
      Devilish.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was told that some mechanics would just remove it for you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      depends on the manufacturer and if you're buying the car new

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes in poorgay cars

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wrx sti

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    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >manual

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and how exactly would automatic transmission work in such off-road conditions? lmao

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          some means of selecting gears other than putting it in D(ude trust me). even my shitty old honda lets you select 1st or 2nd manually, or lock out 4th and 5th.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't mean gear selection, but rather the clutch control

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he rides his clutch
            good, good. i can quote you for a clutch replacement next week, pm me

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >rides his clutch
            no, I don't, but I can easily control how much torque is delivered to the wheels, which is helpful when you're e.x. sunk in mud

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How often do you personally get stuck in mud while driving your car?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It would work just fine since you can't burn the clutch when you get stuck.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Black person there is a reason rockcrawlers and offroaders use standard transmissions.
            If your auto kicks your out of your powerband in the middle of an obstacle there's a good chance you're not going to make it, or blow something.
            This isn't even an argument.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kys

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Manual is for gays that like handling dicks.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's exactly what an insecure closeted homosexual who can't even drive manual would say

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/Plngotd.jpg

          Ride a steel horse
          [...]
          Please blow your brains out

          join the 41%, auto troony.

          Seethe more. Manual sucks dick

          Manuals are the least stolen cars because most thieves don't know how to drive them

          Just don't live in a shit area.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Manual sucks dick
            TL:
            "I can't drive"
            ftfy

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, I was taught manual. Got an automatic as soon as I bought my own car.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How did your parents take it when you came out of the closet?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        join the 41%, auto troony.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seethe harder

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Manuals are the least stolen cars because most thieves don't know how to drive them

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Instead you get shot by the frustrated Black

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That is only maybe in USA. Here melanin enriched inviduals may not even be able to read and write but can drive a car (with manual transmission)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >That is only maybe in USA
            well people dont steal cars in eastern europe

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Car companies have identified autonomous driving as the next big thing to sell
    They want to make it as painful as possible to drive yourself
    Unfortunately true level 5 autonomy looks unlikely without neuromorphic systems. Which might take another 50 years™

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you talking about level 5 when we're not even managing to get level 3 working?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > modern
    > doesn't phone home
    pick one, anon

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Theoretically yes but in practice probably no

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cars are a cancer upon humanity just because of the amount of headache they cause
    I wish schwab would unironically remove all cars instead of larping about it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cars cause headache

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >shit breaks
        >have ot change tires
        >random shitb reaks again
        >pay fricking license
        >pay insurance
        >pay shit
        >random shti breaks
        aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa frick off
        SCHWAB IS RIGHT

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >shit breaks
          Yes, that's what happens with any mechanical tool you use
          if you use drill, at some point you'll have to replace the brushes or buy a new one, same goes for chainsaw or a lawnmower, hell even a lightbulb needs a replacement from time to time, as well as your faucet and dozens of other everyday appliances
          >pay fricking license
          once in your life
          >pay insurance
          once a year
          >pay shit
          you pay shit for everything everyday
          now, get back to your buddies over at

          [...]

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That page/board thing has the funniest shit ever.
            Sometimes I go on there and when I see an extra stupid post I click on the user (you can see all their post history) and almost without fail it's a troon or a female angry about men.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, it's unreal how many trans people hate cars
            Maybe that's because they think they're TRAINS PEOPLE

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            HAHAHAHA
            but for real, I think it's because they're autistic.
            Aren't beta autists like, sensitive when it comes to sounds and stuff? And isn't the relation between autists and troons like, pretty high?
            Maybe I should go for a straight pipe after all.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            autism + homosex = troony, yes

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cars are heckin unsafe Cnile
            You need rails for safety! I love Rust (and Ruby on Rails!)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Motorbike with loud speakers
            >The age of oil can't end soon enough
            Electric motorcycles won't have speakers?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/WBedgAo.jpg

            HAHAHAHA
            but for real, I think it's because they're autistic.
            Aren't beta autists like, sensitive when it comes to sounds and stuff? And isn't the relation between autists and troons like, pretty high?
            Maybe I should go for a straight pipe after all.

            Chuds
            >lmao look at this troon getting a breakdown from loud cars and bikes
            Also chuds, when urban youth is being loud and annoying
            >omg i hate Black folk, they are so loud and annoying

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            K Black person

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >President Troon bans internal combustion
            Electric motorcycles still have speakers which homosexuals will keep at max volume despite not needing it. Problem remains.
            >President Chud ban Black folk
            12,481 problems solved (last year alone)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This.
            God has a plan everyone and if you are motorcyclist, that plan is living the rest of your life in a wheelchair.
            And I am the instrument of His divine will.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are gay

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, I'm sure taking the bus with a gaggle of Black folk is better.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shit breaks
      >have ot change tires
      >random shitb reaks again
      >pay fricking license
      >pay insurance
      >pay shit
      >random shti breaks
      aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa frick off
      SCHWAB IS RIGHT

      You are like little babies.

      The age of oil cannot begin soon enough.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he actually thinks cars will be viable long-term in a non-industrial society

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They will be because I fricked your mom last night.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy a real car

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > 6 litre
      > 130hp
      yeah no

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >130 hp
        Yes let's just ignore those fat ass tires and that turbo intercooler down front.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop buying new cars.
    I don't know why you morons feel the need to buy new cars.
    Spend that $50k you don't have on a $10k car that looks better, sounds better, has a better designed engine, is lighter, and doesn't track you.
    Then just use the money you'd have used for payments on keeping it in nice condition.
    You'll actually have an appreciating asset as well, instead of an asset that immediately deprecates.

    Also if you can't drive a standard you shouldn't be allowed to drive.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't drive much.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      New cars are safer though. Also automatic is king.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can disable or remove a lot of that stuff. I had bluetooth and LTE coded out of my car and removed the modules.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ive see L platers in toyota starlets do better circle work
      that was fricking sad

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You don't drive much.

        New cars are safer though. Also automatic is king.

        enjoy lyme disease

        So many trannies on DA
        Not that I'm surprised.

        Acquire testosterone.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wow old good! they are cool looking though cars are for homosexuals though. VROOM VROOM.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Automatic is just comfy. Cars are just to take you from A to B.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you just care about comfort and A to B then you should ride a bus or train.
            You are a public transport monkey.
            You don't deserve cars.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Public transport isn't A to B. It's A to B to C to D etc.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's like saying every stoplight is another stop.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, because you don't get out of your route to hit those stoplights
            And even then, the bus is even more stops because it also stops on those stoplights

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            this
            my 2 hour commute via 3 buses takes 30 minutes by car
            on top of that, buses run like shit early in the morning (around 5 AM when I leave) and even worse than that when I come home (10 PM), to the point where it's faster for me to just fricking walk home for an hour instead of waiting for the last bus

            this is hell, and if this job wasn't a temporary one, I'd have fricked kysed myself after a year or so
            I hate redditors/hBlack folk who rent a broom closet next to their workplace and screech about cars

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One day we'll get transport tubes from Futurama and no need for car. It was comfy in rural area to go to big shops etc. In city then car sucks. 1000e/year extra on parking and insurance compared to smaller towns. So sold mine and use my legs instead.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oil is Gods blood.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not in europe at least, the car manufacturers are legally required to include cell reception since 2017

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll just keep buying Toyota.
    At least it phones Mr. Toyoda san

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My Toyota does not phone home. No cellular modem because I took it out. Yes it is wired in through the nav system and stuff but it's not too hard if you can read some schematics.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can also frick your horse!

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it possible to have a modern car that doesn't phone home?
    Yes. Buy an older used car then have a mod-shop "modernize" it for you. While it's there also remove all the fake emissions crap so you don't emit as much CO2 by going through so much fuel and oil.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >While it's there also remove all the fake emissions crap so you don't emit as much CO2 by going through so much fuel and oil.
      sounds like a scam

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most emission laws are indeed based on oil industry scams, bribery, lobbyists. The EGR valve alone cuts the engine life in half.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My benz doesnt have one

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what's modern? My 2013 MX5 barely manages to tell me MPG.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't use the phone that much while driving. If it's not urgent I just ignore the call.

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Go old school

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's more of a kit car thing.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          omg i want this

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you would die immediately. a corvette engine with literally no weight, lol

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you take your car to a mechanic he will install a tracker in it and sell your data

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sounds like a job for the EU to regulate.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all electronics should not be able to connect to the internet
      >you should need to take it to the local reseller if you want the latest updates

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See

      not in europe at least, the car manufacturers are legally required to include cell reception since 2017

      EU is the one forcing this shit.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, just live in Japan.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    while you have a phone with gps on that can see and hear everything and even has a fricking accelerometer

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anti public transit people are morons, news at 11

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's le cool to nerf yourself

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >forcing people who don't like and suck at driving because they'd rather look at their phone to drive is le good

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like going where I want exactly when I want with the music I want at the volume I want with the temperature I want with the people that I want to be in the same area as me, personally
    Public transit doesn't conflcit with that but the weirdoes who want to get rid of cars do.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they see you as cattle and treat you as cattle and they're hinting you should just obey and be a good cattle.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just be in EU. Cell modem is mandatory BUT it is only used in case of a crash, determined by the car itself so it can't be backdoored. Any additional use is subject to GDPR and you can control it in the cars settings.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >BUT it is only used in case of a crash
      heh
      >The GPS installed in the vehicle of Sara Pina's alleged killer was key to his arrest.
      >The Peugeot Rifter he was driving has a geolocation system for exceptional situations such as accidents.
      >The husband of the first victim of male violence of the year was located 70 kilometers north of Bordeaux

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >only used in crash
      ? 2024+ cars in EU have mandatory speed limit tracking. Currently you can turn it off (manually, and you have to do it every time you turn the car on) but they're voting soon to make it so you can't turn it off at all probably for 2026 model years. They're also formulating a regulation to make driver monitoring mandatory too.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >driver monitoring
        What does that mean in this case?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The annoying shit that all the hands free systems like GM's Super cruise or whatever and Ford Blue cruise and Tesla self driving have except all the time. IR and facial recognition cameras permanently watching where your eyes are pointing and if your hands are on the steering wheel

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >speed limit tracking
        how does that even function, google maps is wrong an awful lot of times about the maximum speed and I doubt other mapping software isnt

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hah, that’s cute. no.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its part of the beast system, sooner than you think you will require the mark just to buy and sell.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can buy your car and mod it, of course you can't do that with a leased car

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >get error code on BMW G30 some battery is almost empty
    >turns out it's phone home battery
    >use MODBMW ODB adapter to disable error code
    >modern car that doesn't phone home
    battery is in cabin roof so pretty easy to force

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tesla pays for unlimited free internet for the lifetime of the car you fricking dumbass. They snitch you to every data collection company and agency that is willing to pay and they make so much money on your data that buying you free LTE connectivity worldwide is a bargain. It constantly records you and phones home.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >step 1 unlock car
      >step 2 sit in car
      >step 3 use bigass touchscreen to browse internet even though you did not provide a wifi connection
      >step 4 observe that there is a live LTE connection that you did not pay for or subscribe to in any way
      Life sure is hard for the moronic

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't work in my country.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well obviously it won't work in the middle of south Black folktan where there's no service or where Tesla would have to jump through a million hoops to have the same sim card work across a dozen providers that hate each other to get any decent coverage. I just checked and they do cover all the countries around the world where one could be expected to be able to afford a tesla.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it won't work in the middle of south Black folktan
            >Tesla
            Ok, mutt.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >browse internet on touchscreen without paying for internet
        LMAO

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >All Tesla vehicles come with access to Standard Connectivity. Standard Connectivity is included in your vehicle, at no additional cost, for eight years
          Dumb Black person

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The cell antennas are in the side mirrors, it's not hard to fit an a/b rf relay in there which routes the amp output to a dummy load when you want privacy.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >hey elon, tesla #4492011 lost connectivity to our servers
            >its probably stolen or being maliciously used, issue report to law enforcement and have it marked down on any cctv/highway where it shows up
            what now moron

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you can't drive a standard, you should be allowed to drive period. Raising the standards of operation filters out a lot of morons.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >should
      *shouldn't

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought it was Gorbachev.

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People really do make the transmission in their car their personality, huh

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As opposed to autogays who simply live without a personality.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, they probably have a real personality and other hobbies instead of making it about a simple piece of machinery

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Learn how to drive and you won't have to cope with fake hobbies.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >fake hobbies
            More real than something a 17 year old bong can do, that's like calling tying shoelaces a hobby

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Something a 17yr old bong can do, but something you're too much of a b***h to do.
            Ya played yourself

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but something you're too much of a b***h to do
            Lol are you sure about that
            >tfw americans are so moronic they think driving manual is hard and consider themselves are when they do it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >themselves special*

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not American.
            I don't think it's hard.
            I think you're moronic if you drive an auto.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Manuals cost more than autos in America. It's just a waste of money.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Manuals cost more than autos in America
            Not they don't.
            They usually cost less.
            They might seem to cost more because higher performance packages tend to include them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, but for your average person, who just buys a shitty corolla or civic, the manuals cost more because they aren't the base model.
            Unlike in other countries where there are still manual base models that cost less.
            Manuals are seen as an "enthusiast" thing in America.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is just lies. Obviously you didn't even take the 5 seconds it takes to look up that modern base mdoels still come with standards. Autos are still mid-range. Then the standards come back with performance packages. Either in the form of paddleshifters or a beefier transmission.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            People smarter than you drive automatics because they just want to get from A to B
            You're just being the automotive equivalent of a vegan telling everyone they are vegan

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            People smarter than me don't drive. They get driven.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty sure most midwits don't get driven

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >instead of making it about a simple piece of machinery
          >on DA

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are also people making their operating systems their personality
      Oh wait

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Install a Pi-hole DNS blade server in your backseat to keep the car from contacting the mothership

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buy car
    >first thing I do is rip out the infotainment system and any antennas
    >car no longer has the means to phone home
    It's that easy.
    >b-but muh loan
    You're not a cuck who takes a loan to buy a car right? Then it doesn't matter what you do with it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Better yet, claim african americans did that to your car and get the insurance money for a new radio/infotainment system that doesn't phone home.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't need a radio, I don't like music.
        I just need a basic-ass car. Hoping my 2024 Mirage will last me another 30 years like the 1994 Civic it replaced.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't like music.
          Cheers, never thought I'd meet a real robot here.

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what are you trying to achieve? the government already knows what your car is doing because of including but not limited to speed cameras and license plate OCR.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the difference is that the government doesnt sell that data to the insurance companies and the car manufacturers will

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he runs a plate

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let's be honest.
    If you don't drive a carbureted V8 with a floor shifter, you should just cut your dick off already.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post your carbureted V8 with a floor shifter

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I won't post it because DA, but I have everything but the floorshifter.
        Pontiac G8 GXP

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry, it's also efi.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry, it's also efi.

          You made the rules

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you should just cut your dick off
      Kosher post

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ask question on how to remove or disable modem on your car
    >"Bro, why are you trying to do that, are you schizophrenic? You'll lose out on so many features and degrade your experience with the car"
    I hate normalgays so fricking much. They read like bot posts

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Samegay but:
      >"NOOOOOO! We can't let Chinese EVs into America! It'll be a security risk to infiltrate our data and networks!"
      Chinese botnet bad! American, Korean, Japanese, German botnet good!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Chinese botnet bad! American, Korean, Japanese, German botnet good!
        Yes.
        My side > your side
        is the history of the world.

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    anything pre 2000

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes, by keeping it in a Faraday cage.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also RMS said that you should destroy their antennas as long as they won't run free software, but I don't think the FSF has addressed this officially.

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my 2016 honda hr-v seemingly does not phone home in any way. its also comfy as frick but insecure bros will tell you its "slow"

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    damn shame you homosexuals never actually learned anything about computers despite having ~20 years to do so. you might have been able to actually determine what shit your vehicles devices are getting up to and stop it.

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pull the telematics/DCM unit and you'll be good. I did this on my Subaru.

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy a road legal race car. These have all the unnecessary shit taken out usually.

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    afaik new cars are obligated to have an emergency call system, so they need the cell modem anyway, at which point there's no economic reason not to also put some data acquisition in there
    this wouldn't be a problem if software freedom was a universal practice, as it should be

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah just get any VAG car, the online features don't work half of the time
    t. Audi owner

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All modern cars will have black box required soon

    You should really buy any old car and keep that maintained.

  64. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy the cheapest plastic shitbox with no infotainment

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Then you get crunched by an SUV.

  65. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How come there is no car manufacturers who keeps it basic? Even the ones who claim to do exactly that are over engineered pieces of shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because nobody wants it basic.

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