ITT: justify your ford hatred

tl;dr, why do you hate ford? why shouldn't i purchase an f150 over a 1500 gm/chrysler truck?

the ENTIRE fleet of vehicles at my job are fords, with the exception of a handful of macks, a few internattys, freightliners, and an oshkosh. these trucks take a beating like no other. from 150s to 550s, almost all of them plow. other than oil changes and new tires, maintenance isn't egregious. my 2016 f350 rides nice, hauls trailers perfectly well, just hit 190xxx, and still runs like a top. why shouldn't i buy an f150 for personal use? don't misinterpret my post as me simping for ford, just my observations.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do y'all think about the Explorer, are the old ones (2000-2015) considered reliable and good driving?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pre 2000: basically a crew cab ford ranger but with a bedcap, almost all of these are dead to rust or C4C
      2001-2010: ford ranger but with worse reliability/build quality and IRS, commonly get stolen. boomers and mechanics seem to love these for some reason
      2011-2019: useless crossover, shitty infotainment, most are FWD, 3.5 NAs eat water pumps, and 3.5TTs eat front axle shafts. the Ford Flex is universally a better car
      2020-present: more sporty because of RWD biased AWD, ditched the 3.5NA for the 2.3T (marginal improvement), improved interior and infotainment, 20s and 21s have atrocious build quality because of a covid launch

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pre 2000: basically a crew cab ford ranger but with a bedcap, almost all of these are dead to rust or C4C
      2001-2010: ford ranger but with worse reliability/build quality and IRS, commonly get stolen. boomers and mechanics seem to love these for some reason
      2011-2019: useless crossover, shitty infotainment, most are FWD, 3.5 NAs eat water pumps, and 3.5TTs eat front axle shafts. the Ford Flex is universally a better car
      2020-present: more sporty because of RWD biased AWD, ditched the 3.5NA for the 2.3T (marginal improvement), improved interior and infotainment, 20s and 21s have atrocious build quality because of a covid launch

      t. Ranger based vehicle guy. I only drive these.
      They are great if you do the maintenance, just like anything else. My wheeler is a 97 2-door with manual trans and has a tick over 400k.
      I have 2 others, and one dismantled for parts.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        2-door=Explorer

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >changes part designs nearly every year
    >bland conservative styling
    >afraid to take risks on interesting concepts
    >uninspiring performance
    >that door chime
    >makes cars with flaws on purpose

    for example newer mustangs crash a lot because the rear subframe mounts are extremely soft and the rear wheels steer under power. The V6 S195 had defective driveshafts that would explode at 130 mph.
    They put in just enough effort to sell the car and that's it. They don't care if it's easy to maintain or not, that's someone else's job.
    Meanwhile Mopar goes out of their way to make it easy to maintain their vehicles and GM, despite doing stupid shit also makes an effort in this regard. Ford is the only company that seems actively malicious to mechanics.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The V6 S195 had defective driveshafts that would explode at 130 mph.
      Why the frick would anyone take a v6 S197 up that fast to begin with. Inb4 v6 poorgay benchracer cope

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        fair point but it's doable with a disabled speed limiter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lists a bunch of non issues
      Lol
      >mustang crashes
      Thats because the people who buy them are moronic when they drive anon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ford Black person detected
        literally everyone else in the thread has called out the same shit you blind moron

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FEELS GOOD TO DRIVE A CAR MADE BY GM (GOD MOTORS).

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    :thumbsup:
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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate boomers so much its unreal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Tapatalk

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The 10r80 is a massive piece of shit. I have a newer F150 and everything is fine except for that piece of shit transmission, it’s constantly shifting rough. So far the only dealer I took it to refused to fix it (most likely all they need to do is run a 30 minute procedure to cycle the valves to flush out debris).

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I loved the focus and fiesta. they won't sell them in america anymore because they are reasonable, practical cars and distract buyers from the colossal paypig truggs that dominate lots.

    once ford becomes a CAR company again I'll give them another shot

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just buy a 'stang pussy, yknow you wamt to

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think ford is junk for the most part but like the new ranger Raptor

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >like the new ranger Raptor
      You are gay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wtf how did u know

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like ford. I think they make a good truck.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Which one to get?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What regulator mandated these low ass headlights on SUVs/crossovers? Is it gay euros or some kind of Asian bullshit?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate them because they discontinued the OEM 4.6 intake and there is still 0 proper aftermarket replacement that isn't a dogshit Dorman or a flat plane Edelbrock meant for supercharging. How the frick does a 2000s Mustang part not have a good generic available? Fricking hell.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i hate boomers so fricking much

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >thing lots of people have use for goes out of production
        >I KNOW, I'LL BUY THEM ALL
        call him a israelite for me plz

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's just business. Buy spares if you want spares.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can't. Some old homosexual boomer just bought everyone left in stock

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Frick, I know those guys
        Good guys. A bit boomer but good guys none the less

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Put a Bullitt intake manifold on it

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, you know what FORD stands for dont ya?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fix it again tony?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's Fiat Dale

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      F. First
      O. On
      R. Race
      D. Day

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      functional obviously, really dependable?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fix or repair daily

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      p

      Plz b satire

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's what happens when DEI grows out of ideology and becomes a business. Imagine how many worthless frickers are living a rich life on this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Plz b satire

      That's what happens when DEI grows out of ideology and becomes a business. Imagine how many worthless frickers are living a rich life on this.

      This was a euroford (germany) thing. Oh Mr. Ford, im glad you didnt have to see this

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >DCT trash
    >incredibly half baked chassis design (my car has a place at the rear wheel well that collects water and easily rusts)
    >relays made out of glass
    >transmissions made out of glass
    >plastic intake manifolds
    >built to the cheapest levels possible to the point of having no washer fluid reservoir sensor from factory
    >shitty trunk liners what break easily
    >already missing panel clips from hood insulation liner and misc door panels
    The absolute state of ford

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to the cheapest levels possible to the point of having no washer fluid reservoir sensor from factory

      Really? My 40+ year old NISSAN has a still functioning washer fluid level sensor. That’s right, a fukn Nissan!

      I saw an early 90s foxbody mustang filling up with gas today too.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >justify your ford hatred
    Rotary shifter. I just don't like it.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're good if they're working well, but Ive seen a lot of stuff like wiring issues or improperly built motor and transmission on 2 of our F750s. Both were basically brand new trucks and it was covered under warranty, but it kind of fricked me over being a combined 4 trucks down (2 f-750s, 1 flatbed f-350 and 1 f-150) for almost a month. 3 months in the case of the 750 that needed a new engine because a piston rod wasn't properly attached and it basically just shot through the engine block

    The ones that seem to be actually properly put together run without issues though. We have several in the 300k range and they have no issues other than rust and normal wear and tear (ie, the seats are blown out, suspension is soft, etc)

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why do you hate ford?
    Powershift

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was using my 9th gen f150 to de bead junk tires, lots of getting in and out. The door kept getting stuck partially latched and wouldn't fricking open. Ive owned multiple of these bull/brick/aero obs trucks and they just have obnoxious quality issues like this. God forbid you replace part of the engine electonics and a week later the connector falls apart and the wires corrode from the inside out. Any time you need a spec to test something on these trucks its year specific, engine specific, and a tossup if the information outside a ford book is correct. Frick getting any aftermarket that works even if its motorcraft.

    The automatic door locks on 99-16 super duties are horrible, ive never seen them work consistently, i have been locked out of a running truck multiple times because the doors locked when i closed them. Every time i put a gm vehicle in drive or reverse the doors lock, put it in park they unlock. Simple as that.

    There hasnt been a generation of ford truck since bullnose that hasnt been recalled for wheels falling off. Everyone else remembered how to put wheels on trucks after the ussr fell.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    modular engines are fricking garbage

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >do some basic suspension, brake, tire work to a shitty 240sx
    >take to track
    >go with cute girl from the shop
    >she has a brand new mustang
    >after 3 laps it starts throwing codes and is useless for the rest of the day
    >shitbox 240sx is fine

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    powershit
    puking spark plugs
    internal chain driven water pumps that fail in less that 100k miles and when they fail they dump coolant directly into the oil pan
    INTERNAL timing belts that run into the oil pan
    5.4l 3 valve eating timing chains

    this https://x.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1786292920334630977

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They stopped making cars and made an electric mustang. Used to love em but it’s watching your bud become a troony

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Owning a Ford is like having a beautiful wife you can never frick because she has aids. Always bleeding edge tech with horrendous experience breaking flaws and it falls apart in 3 years.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My uncle has a 2017 focus base model that he wants to sell. Should I buy it if the price is right? I've heard they have transmission issues though.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want a 1993 Ford Taurus SHO or even just a regular model.

    3rd/4th gen fiesta is cool too along with the 3rd gen ford escort

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tl;dr, why do you hate ford?
    Because I have the 5.4L 3V Triton, and if you don't hate Ford after that, then you are either a masochist or have another mental illness.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At least the triton sounds sweet. Shame about the rest of it though

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you only knew how Canadian things are.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My 2016 Fusion SE (2.5L 4banger Duratech) has had only 1 issue since I bought it. Going into reverse and applying any gas for about 3/5 seconds causes some nasty jerking/grinding sounds, as if its slipping or something. I have to let the engine idle its way into reverse on its own, and I only apply a c**t hairs worth of gas to reverse at all.

    Outside of that, surprisingly reliable at 95k miles

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      95k is nothing, any car should get there without issue

      I drive a 2014 automatic Focus because I didn't know the transmission was issue at the time of purchase (2014). Working on finding an old F-150 tho. My dad and father in law are Chevy guys, so kind of weird wife and I are Ford/Mazda enjoyers.

      you should be more like your dad

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My first car was a 2001 f150. Worst car I've ever had nothing was easy to do

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I live in Detroit, Ford along with the other 2 are garbage, made by Black folk and women.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t, have had nothing but good times with every ford I’ve owned. Still salty about my 14 fusion getting sideswiped and totaled at 164k miles (it had zero issues in my 9 years of ownership, minus a ruptured brake line)

    Now the bmw I replaced it with…

    And hell my work truck is a 98 f150 with 337k miles and still runs like a clock.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just think they're ugly

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I drive a 2014 automatic Focus because I didn't know the transmission was issue at the time of purchase (2014). Working on finding an old F-150 tho. My dad and father in law are Chevy guys, so kind of weird wife and I are Ford/Mazda enjoyers.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Overweight males with small penis's who drive Ford Raptors aggressively, step outside your car mate and I'll do you and the kids in the back.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >plastic oil pans for cars marketed as offroad vehicles/rock crawlers
    >alternators mounted at the bottom of engines for trucks/broncos, so when they go through puddles they roll the dice
    >replacement parts come from the factory fricked up (wiring harnesses, valves)
    >spaghetti engine bays
    >impossible to maintain/stupidly placed bolts on semi-frequent maintenance items blocked by other components
    >the saga of the 6.4L powerstroke diesel
    ford engineers deserve unemployment for enabling planned obsolescence

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Their infotainment system sucks. They're only usable as display outputs for Apple Carplay/Android Auto

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >justify your ford hatred
    Easy:
    Antisemitism

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buying Ford Everest next week
    not a car enthusiast but this seems a good thread to ask, what's your unfiltered honest unequivocal flagrant balls-to-the-walls opinion on Ford Everest?

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't hate Ford... Yet. I just hate their scummy business practices. I did hate them when they took Volvo and fricked them over back then, but I hate GM more for fricking over Saab.

    Nowadays, with most companies, they've killed off their sedans and hatches and replaced them with stupid crossovers and mid-size SUVs (i'm still mad that they turned the Explorer into a unibody). As for trucks and vans, I don't really mind them as they've their bread and butter since the dawn of the company, although they've only grown bigger over the last 20 years much to the chagrin of "urbanists".

    Now for the reason why I dislike Ford... Investing heavily in EV, patented the idea of having the vehicle auto repo itself, and reading ads from billboards. Frick this israelitery.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >justify your ford hatred
    I had a 94 2dr Exploder hand me down in 2010 and it died on me. That's it. Still, I will never inentionally buy anything wearing the same badge. Idc how irrational this is. It is what is.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why do you hate ford
    they killed the fiesta and focus in NA

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Known wear item
    >Also drives the oil pump
    What the frick were they thinking?

    Bonus points if you can guess the engine.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot pic so here's a hint.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >my 2016 f350 rides nice
    no, it does not

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They pulled out of my country to focus on EVs, frick 'em and frick their trucks

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're not a car company, they're a F-150 company.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    rust

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >V8 mustang and F150 good
    >rest of the lineup sucks
    I mean are they really any worse than other modern USDM manufacturers? Afaik they also all do the same shit of 1 or 2 good cars and a bunch of trash.
    The 10 speed auto apparently likes to grenade itself though so thats embarassing
    I also forgot how they switched from tremecs to the fricking MT82 frick them nvm

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Love ford, love me superduties, hate 150, simple as

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ford just gets everyone else to do their homework. Mazda for their drivetrains, Bosch for their electronics.

    Ford engineers just aren't that intelligent or innovative. The only thing that's kept them alive is their previous partnership with Mazda. They stole all their engine designs and put their name on it "It's not MZR! It's Duratec!" They don't really have anything that is "theirs".

    You remember the 4.6L Modular VVT in the Mustang? Yeah.... that's peak Ford. If it weren't for other people, that's where they'd still be. Just continuing to make moronic and inefficient shit.

    Ask a Ford mechanic how fun it is to work on those things. You'll get an ear full. That's shitty engineering when you can't incorporate easy repair access.

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