I've just watched Cronenberg's Crash, is there any depth to it, because all I could see is someone's fetish for car crashes and oversex...

I've just watched Cronenberg's Crash, is there any depth to it, because all I could see is someone's fetish for car crashes and oversexualization.

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's Cronenberg of course there's no depth. Just watch and enjoy if you enjoyed it

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      His movies almost never have subtext. Sex is weird, that's it.

      no; it was a pointless meme film when it came out. the only reason anyone was talking about it was because of the gore/perversion scenes.

      One of the characters in the film literally explains the point of the film

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Cronie filters midwits, its nothing new

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          You'd have to be less than a midwit not to understand what's going on in that movie lmao

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yes the crash fetish is an allegory for homosexuals being born out of child abuse, couldn't be more clear

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Le scar looks like... le pusy?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yes the crash fetish is an allegory for homosexuals being born out of child abuse, couldn't be more clear

      It's Cronenberg of course there's no depth. Just watch and enjoy if you enjoyed it

      https://i.imgur.com/67787Ps.jpeg

      I've just watched Cronenberg's Crash, is there any depth to it, because all I could see is someone's fetish for car crashes and oversexualization.

      These are barely even relevant analyses to the movie
      It is about a shift in the relationship between the subject and the object after modernity. Formerly the object was inert and the subject was privelige as the sole locus of agentivity. Today with the interface of all cultural-psychological and ubiquitous technology there is a feeling of the object having superceded the subject. It's baudrillard shit nick land shit the revenge of the crystal. It is not a moral allegory in any way Cronenberg and Ballard have both said so

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Finally someone who actually watched the film. It's so clearly about transhumanism and it's not exactly subtle about it.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Bless you anon

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        duh

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I think the subtext of the line between man and machine gradually becoming blurrier and blurrier as we "evolve", so to speak, to adapt to our new environment is fairly clear. That new environment of course being the grey, dreary landscape of modern Toronto replete with inorganic matter and dominated by the vehicle.
    The car represents the body as it essentially functions as an extension of ourselves. Even our personality is defined for others by what we drive, perhaps moreso than how we look or dress. The crashing represents the ultimate self-destructive fetish, of which there are many outside the context of the car. Think of it as BDSM but for the new age dominated by the vehicle.
    Vaughan's (who interestingly shared a name with a famously car-dependent suburb of Toronto) depraved philosophy is a purposeful red herring, it's like listening to someone explain why they like being pissed on. Whether it's the degradation, the smell, the warmth, it doesn't matter. It has no philosophical depth to it; it's simply the pursuit of pleasure. He is a fetishist and nothing more and James, after experiencing the rush himself and already a sex addict, is quickly being pulled in too. The fetish is being evangelized.
    And so Crash is a treatise on car dependency and the almagamation of man with machine. It's more prescient today than it was when it came out. And since it's a Cronenberg film, there's a lot of shocking imagery that's more or less an exercise in edginess, but the sex that's portrayed as most exciting takes place in cars to emphasize the point that we are losing out humanity. Or are we actually gaining new insights and capabilities?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine writing this many words and stretching this fricking hard for what is basically fetish porn made by a israelite. it's demoralization anon, it's not deep at all.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >is that... a naked white woman? AAAAAAAH I'M BEING DEMORALIZED HELP ME AAAAAH

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty much sums it up for the /misc/tv/ crowd, yeah. Of course they'd deny it by saying some gay nonsense like "noooo it's encouraging strange sex and abnormality!!!!" because remember: portrayal is always promotion, even when said portrayal is negative.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

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      These are barely even relevant analyses to the movie
      It is about a shift in the relationship between the subject and the object after modernity. Formerly the object was inert and the subject was privelige as the sole locus of agentivity. Today with the interface of all cultural-psychological and ubiquitous technology there is a feeling of the object having superceded the subject. It's baudrillard shit nick land shit the revenge of the crystal. It is not a moral allegory in any way Cronenberg and Ballard have both said so

      Based oldgay non-moronation haver

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Bless you anon

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The depth is that if you read JG Ballard's autobiography The Kindness of Women he strongly implies that he was doing Crash in real life with his girlfriends

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What? I don't remember that at all

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    His movies almost never have subtext. Sex is weird, that's it.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    it's an anti fetish/anti porn movie

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    no; it was a pointless meme film when it came out. the only reason anyone was talking about it was because of the gore/perversion scenes.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/ZS06wHO.jpeg

        Sex with Roz

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Good film with mostly hot sex scenes.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      forgot pic

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >MY LEG!

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Davida Cronenberga
    They really need to translate that. How am I supposed to know who directed it?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The Polish title should actually be Krész

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Slav languages use cases

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You can't visualize an apple

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >all I could see is someone's fetish for car crashes and oversexualization
    It's pretty obvious with the main character having the same name as the author.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    absolute dogshit

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The whole movie's a fluke because they didn't crash a plane at the end despite everything hinting towards it

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Damn that would have been even better than the Jayne Mansfield crash.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Well i suppose all they wanted was to fly a plane, but they were stuck driving cars... it's almost like it's an important part of movie's symbolism...
        that's still bullshit i wanted to see them crash a plane

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The scene where she jerks him off and asks him how badly he wants to suck wiener and frick that other guy was hot as frick

    My fetish

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    That fricking main theme with offtune guitars is a fricking mental parasite

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

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    You need to be banished from this site indefinitely.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >posting the same response verbatim after the previous one got deleted
    Seek help. You and Seth Harris are two of the worst posters here and 99.9% of the board wants to see you both burn at the stake

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    My japanese wife loves this movie and I like things that make her horny

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >"oh, anon-kun, can we prease watchu Crashu by Davidu Kuronenberguru-Sama? Andu afta, we can take a dribu?"

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        she doesn't talk like that

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yes she does

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Spot on impression honestly

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Stop lying to yourself, anon.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      My fav indie rock band

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      2, 4, 1, 3, 5

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Would (in a car)

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      James Spader was such a strapping young man

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    frightening how smoothbrained you coomers that fumble through Cronenberg are

    here's a good thread from 2 days ago if you want to read discussion from people that experience actual thoughts
    https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueFilm/comments/1dttbw4/whats_your_take_on_cronenbergs_crash/

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >"For me the hydrogen bomb was a symbol of absolute 'freedom'." The irony is that moral freedom can only be exercised within the bounds of humanity's own concrete world, where we all become victims of each other's fantasies. Where else is there to go? The past is a biological swamp, the future is a sandy desert-the present a concrete playpen akin to the Fallen World in Biblical symbolism where men and women toil and die but in Ballard's modern version, it is the place where they act out their psychosexual dramas and die. In Crash the landscape of airports and motorways of quintessential West London are dominated by advertising and the automobile. The narrator suffers a car accident and as a result experiences an overhwelming desire to explore the psychosexual significance of the event following the logic of it's apocalyptic annihilationism to it's grisly end.
    >The sexual explicitness and the long descriptions of injuries and mutilations all seem divorced from "normal" human feelings, treated equitability without qualm. More medical than pornographic, conveying a strange union of flesh and machine:
    >"I felt the warm vinyl of the seat beside me and then stroked the damp aisle of Helen's perineum. Her hand pressed against my right testicle. The plastic laminates around me, the colour of washed anthracite, were the same tones as her pubic hairs parted at the vestibule of her vulva. The passenger compartment enclosed us like a machine generating from our sexual act an homunculus of blood, semen and engine coolant"

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      /film/?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        book

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Respect.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >The social dimension isn't really what I'm interested in. There's a constant struggle on a minute-by-minute basis throughout our lives every day; one needs to dismantle that smothering conventionalized reality that wraps itself around us. There's a conspiracy, in which we play our willing part, just to stabilize the world we inhabit. One needs to dismantle that smothering we call everyday reality and car crashes or serious illness do have that sort of liberating trauma.
      >I mean people talk nostalgically about WWII not because moral standard were more relaxed or people lived more authentically-not for those reasons, but simply because codeified reality from which we can never escape is suddenly dismantled, and there's an element of 'magic' invovled..
      >I'm always struck by the enormous sort of magic and poetry one feels when looking at a junkyard filled with old washing machines, or wrecked cars, or old ships rotting in a harbor. An enormous sort of tragic poetry, mystery and magic surround these objects. You 'need' that violent dislocation which time itself brings. I don't have any sentimental delusion about violence; I certinly don't glorify it in that way like the Nazis did. The fascination with power and brute force, the stamp of thousands of steel-shod boots-all that I detest. That is glamorizing the lowest human motives conceivable; building a society on the level of the street-corner brawl.

      re: Crash Injuries medical text
      >..one's imagination is touched by these people who, if at an enormous price, have nonetheless broken through the skin of reality convention around us...and who have in a sense become mythological beings in a way only attainable through brutal violent acts.

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