Lets say hypothetically I want to launch a new sport car brand and I want it to be relevant for at least the next century, how do I do that?

Let’s say hypothetically I want to launch a new sport car brand and I want it to be relevant for at least the next century, how do I do that?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dont

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hyper-target the youth and the poor with a neo-mustang ideal. Make a sexy and fast-ish car with zero factory infotainment and sell it for cheap (not "comparatively cheap" but for Toyota Corolla prices)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can't make a cheap car without making it in huge volumes, which obviously would not work for that design

      step 1. be a billionaire
      step 2. get other billionaires to give you their money instead of spending your own

      it's more accessible to be a mod brand like Singer

      This. You have to have billions.
      You can be the smartest and most passionate engineer on the planet and it doesn't mean shit if you don't have a ton of cash.

      This is why venture capitalists exist, many complete morons have achieved this type of funding, see Nikola (marketer founded), Fisker (A surface designer founded), Lucid (engineer founded). It's really not hard to get in the low millions to start a startup if you are at all credible, and if you have the slightest bit of traction after that, you can get the money.

      Get a MBA degree.
      Get into the exec suite of an existing automaker.
      Get heavy into the product development branch.
      Take the reins.

      This is the least sensible path

      Prioritize partnering with the government on fleet cars/trucks so you'll have guaranteed contracts to manufacture weapons and vehicles if/when there's another major war before 2124. Everyone from Ford to Dodge, Chevy, Rolls Royce, Mercedes, BMW, Mitsubishi and so on all survived by producing things for militaries during wartime when regular brands would've suffered.
      Only then can you worry about the details of the sports cars themselves (presuming you want to be relevant for a century).

      Gov contracts seem nice in theory, but remember the government is dysfunctional and irrational, so relying on it in any significant degree will always burn you, better to go straight B2B or to consumers.

      You can't without basically unlimited money. Regulations have made it impossible to be a new "sports car brand" without insane amounts of money and insane prices. There is no industry in the world outside of commercial aerospace with a higher regulatory barrier to entry than automotive. All carmakers outside of specialty low volume collector car sellers like koenigsegg and ferrari survive on selling disposable fuel economy focused garbage to keep their average fuel economy, emissions, etc. within government limits. You literally can't do something like in the modern era and make money. Even Lotus barely survived the 2000s and wouldn't exist now if not saved by outside cash and compromising on their original goals.

      Wrong, see above, has happened multiple times even in the last 5 years

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is the only suggestion in this thread with any relevancy or the ability to do what OP wants.

      Everything else is either the unpopular desires of an unpopular board or incredibly stupid for one reason or another.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >pick an existing engine
    >design the plastic interior and aluminum exterior
    >let actual engineers do the rest
    You've now got a Kia

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Quiet cars don't attract sports car buyers. In fact, watch Maserati implode in the next 6 years because of just that

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    step 1. be a billionaire
    step 2. get other billionaires to give you their money instead of spending your own

    it's more accessible to be a mod brand like Singer

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. You have to have billions.
      You can be the smartest and most passionate engineer on the planet and it doesn't mean shit if you don't have a ton of cash.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Humans will be extinct in 20 years.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Manual
    >No assists
    >Cheap
    >Rwd

    The best thing to do is revive the ideal of NA and NB Miata. Balanced and fun. Roadster optional.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >lightweight
    >cheap
    >shitbox potential

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can't without basically unlimited money. Regulations have made it impossible to be a new "sports car brand" without insane amounts of money and insane prices. There is no industry in the world outside of commercial aerospace with a higher regulatory barrier to entry than automotive. All carmakers outside of specialty low volume collector car sellers like koenigsegg and ferrari survive on selling disposable fuel economy focused garbage to keep their average fuel economy, emissions, etc. within government limits. You literally can't do something like in the modern era and make money. Even Lotus barely survived the 2000s and wouldn't exist now if not saved by outside cash and compromising on their original goals.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Light, simple, powerful, manual everything, minimal electronics. Hard coupe standard. Two seats compatible with a 4-point from the factory. I guess ABS is mandatory but the only nannies should be power brakes and hydraulic power steering.

    I'd love something like a C4 Corvette with the drivetrain of the C6 and the aluminum frame of a C7, Penske coilovers instead of magnaride.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >but the only nannies should be power brakes and hydraulic power steering.

      Weakness doesn't belong in sport. Manual steering and brakes. Every day is leg day when you need to stop.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its an EV

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Get a MBA degree.
    Get into the exec suite of an existing automaker.
    Get heavy into the product development branch.
    Take the reins.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Zoomers dont drive, boomers only buy SUVs and millenials are too poor

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Prioritize partnering with the government on fleet cars/trucks so you'll have guaranteed contracts to manufacture weapons and vehicles if/when there's another major war before 2124. Everyone from Ford to Dodge, Chevy, Rolls Royce, Mercedes, BMW, Mitsubishi and so on all survived by producing things for militaries during wartime when regular brands would've suffered.
    Only then can you worry about the details of the sports cars themselves (presuming you want to be relevant for a century).

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Produce hyper looking cars like koenigsegg and made them as economic as practically possible like Miata. Done. You're now a revolutioner and queued in three letter agency's kill list.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    have a nice day then reincarnate yourself as the son of some richer than frick parents.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >somehow partner with a Chinese company to make near identical copies of 90s classic tuners supra, skyline, e34, lancer. copyright and steal designs out the fricking ass. integrate and flood the us market with cheap chinesium battery tech and undercut tesla. theres barely a low end market for EVs right now. do this at a mind-boggling pace, like blitzkrieg the US ev market. print money and establish generational wealth within a year. deal with legal ramifications later.
    There has to be 10,000 changs already thinking of this, but they need a round eye to grease the wheels

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Chang only wants to copy the new garbage because that's what other Changs will buy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Chinks don't like classic cars you dipshit. Also
      >implying a chink-made clone of a car that wouldn't pass modern emissions, fuel economy or safety tests would pass those tests

      You can't make a cheap car without making it in huge volumes, which obviously would not work for that design

      [...]
      [...]
      This is why venture capitalists exist, many complete morons have achieved this type of funding, see Nikola (marketer founded), Fisker (A surface designer founded), Lucid (engineer founded). It's really not hard to get in the low millions to start a startup if you are at all credible, and if you have the slightest bit of traction after that, you can get the money.

      [...]
      This is the least sensible path

      [...]
      Gov contracts seem nice in theory, but remember the government is dysfunctional and irrational, so relying on it in any significant degree will always burn you, better to go straight B2B or to consumers.

      [...]
      Wrong, see above, has happened multiple times even in the last 5 years

      >see above,
      your entire post is you naming companies that make zero sports cars you utter complete fricking moron. And one of those companies you named has failed TWICE. Great examples frickwit

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I want it to be relevant for at least the next century, how do I do that?
    shape of egg
    1 trans option and its auto
    cheapest suspension design possible

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    V8, manual

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    win lemans and f1

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the first step is how do you get to be a "manufacturer?" car company x can put out whatever car they want as it meets standards? you need to get to a point where you can put a vin on something... how do you do that? some kind of program. it looks like in the motorcycle world there are middlemen for this process. Frankly I would love to build scooters so this process is interesting to me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Those typos make me suspect it's a scam

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You release some prototype or limited release that does something weird, for example make a car that has limited flying capabilities. You then make an insanely expensive car that does that but the real money is making a normal car for cheaper that looks similar to that other car. When driving all the nomies go, oh its that car that can fly.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the car wouldnt have to be fast or handle well if the engine is tunable and the chassis can be stripped down easily. extremely modifiable chassis like the civic, miata, s chassis, bmw 3 series etc are extremely well known and popular options for enthusiasts due to the insane aftermarket and different builds people do with them. the new 86/brz has done surprisingly well for how slow it is due to how modifiable it is. also accessibility is a huge requirement. making it as cheap as possible will help a lot with getting as many on the road as possible and cementing the car as a staple of the enthusiast world.

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