Mk2 Escort

Why are these things so highly regarded, especially as rally cars?
On paper, they're comically crude. I get that simplicity is part of the appeal, but apparently they also handle really well, even if you keep the rear leaf springs.

Has anyone here ever driven one? At the moment an Escort would be my dream project car, but I'm wondering if they're really as great as people say or if I've fallen for some sort of silly meme.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lightweight
    >cheap or at least they used to be
    >RWD
    >decently powerful
    >takes well to mods
    >good aftermarket

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >cheap or at least they used to be
      Even a rotted out bodyshell costs a fortune at this stage. The rally tax is lethal.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    while it's not the same, my father had a mk1 capri when I was little. I never personally got to drive it and was given my lessons in a gen1 accord liftback which was quite a bit less cool.

    the Capri was peppy, for its time, had a light rear end that loved to step out even if you had the crappy i4 or v4, generally responsive feeling. it was a great car to feel like you were going fast I think, and maybe teach you the basics. I assume the escort being roughly the same platform just smaller, has even more of that feeling.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Had a few of them years ago including RS2000 which was great fun.
    >comically crude
    At that time they were advanced,for what they were.
    More so the RS1800 as well as the RS2000.
    The simplicity is instru,metal to its success,especially in motorsport,particularly in Rallying.
    WHT?
    Very easy to modify,and lots of room to do so.
    Example being a Mk2 which a buddy built,from scratch,starting with a bare shell.
    Far too much by way of modifications to list here,but i’ll give a brief idea.
    2.2lt YB engine
    Garrett T34
    Updated cams,but not too wild
    BMW M5 rear axle
    Sequential 6speed
    Front calipers from a mid 90’s F1 car
    X2 front seats

    The list is endless.
    In short,this thing will give an R6 a run for its money.
    No surprise,on the dyno it cracked 690bhp.
    Myself,i wouldn’t drive it.
    I drove the predecessor to this one i have mention,that only had 440bhp and wasn’t as high a specification as the current Mk2.

    Build cost?
    £77,000

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >690bhp in a rwd shoebox

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes,it’s like a missile on steroids.
        Thus,i really wouldn’t want to drive it,despite the hi spec etc.
        It’s surprisingly stable at speed,and handles incredibly well.
        No surprise with a £77,000 build cost,that being a ballpark figure.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Now you know
        The poopra ain't shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >YB Mk2 Escort
      Absolute coom

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Aahh..someone who actually knows what’s what;-)
        Therefore,you’ll know where i’m coming from with this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >2.2 YB
      holy frick

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >2.2 YB
        >holy frick
        Yep,my point,precisely.
        690bhp,although it’s actually very driveable and tractable.
        However,he was considering a 2.4lt YB which would’ve been bored and stroked,but then would have needed a stud kit to keep the head on:-/

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So good MST will make you one to any spec you like..

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How much do those cost? Like $120K?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The only limiting factor would be th depth of your wallet.
        There are a number of companies who will design and build one for you,if you give them the spec.
        An educated es time could well be,including shell prep,in the region of £100,000+ depending on engine/gearbox/suspension spec etc etc.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because when they came out they were at the forefront of technology, everything after that has been a result of that legacy.
    Also lightweight N/A FR rally is undoubtedly the most fun and rewarding form of rally for the driving enthusiast.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thread theme

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is this rabbit hole you've sent me into? There appears to be an entire genre of Irish rally music

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're very easy to work on and extremely easy to maintain. If you have a new idea for one, someone has been there and done that and there's already a thousand pages of info about what you're wanting to build. They're compact enough to deal with the B roads and typical rally stages of the UK and Ireland. Until about 25 years ago there were still tens of thousands of these left but now they're rare, hence the huge price. We used to enter them in banger races. Anything remotely desirable (2 doors, anything that had a YB put in it, RS shells, the very late MK2s) was usually race prepped for tarmac rallies and local rallies across the UK. Loads of them have been crashed.

    Your only way into this at anything resembling a reasonable price is to get a Q plater (take someone with you who knows stuff to look it over) or something that's already been raced and ragged in the UK/Ireland. Otherwise get ready for paying 911 money for an economy car

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can't even afford one. Its not 2010 anymore, why are you asking? Fricking busriders.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      13” Minilites;-)
      Awesome.
      What diff ratio,with those?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure that's an MST showcar

        https://i.imgur.com/6KfW5eY.jpg

        You can't even afford one. Its not 2010 anymore, why are you asking? Fricking busriders.

        You can find Mk.1s (mechanically almost identical and better looking) in seemingly good condition for well under 25k here, provided they're not twin cams. I think RHDs are the horrifically expensive ones because the rally drivers are mostly Brits.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If I look on the German market (I'm from Switzerland) there's crummier ones for a lot less, which is probably the sensible option for a project car

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just get a lada instead

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Feedback I have received from people who rally them
    >cheap (in their prime)
    >hugely available (in their prime)
    >lightweight
    >wheelbase, track width, and weight distribution were accidentally perfect from factory
    >robust and reliable, due mainly to simplicity
    >glorious Cosworth BD engine

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