>Nrburgring and its consequences have been a disaster for the car-making race

>Nürburgring and its consequences have been a disaster for the car-making race
Do you agree with him?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick does that moron know about fast cars?
    He can't drive for shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He drove a Veyron over 200mph. You will never be faster than Captain Slow.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wow that's amazing anon!
        He is a terrible driver who doesn't even know the basics of going fast and if you can't recognise that it's only because you are also completely ignorant of driving technique.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As if you have more experience anon. Yeah, I'll go with the BBC broadcaster whose "character" is a slowpoke

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes anon I actually know how to drive fast, that's exactly why I have no respect for the pencil pushing journalist who is OVERTLY clueless.
            You're clearly clueless too which is why you seem to gravitate towards their perceived authority rather than your reasoning.

            If authority is what you seek, why not go with the BBC broadcaster who actually has a clue wtf he's doing and talking about? How about the guy who actually had a career in racing cars? I wonder what Tiff thinks about the Nordschleife.....

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What the frick does that moron know about fast cars?
            You're the clueless one here.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I actually know how to drive a car fast anon, the pencil pushing top gear journalists don't and evidently you don't either if you can't recognise that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I wonder if this post made anon less insecure

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            projection

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I know how to drive fast but the top gear journalists who've been driving for their program don't
            You sound pathetic and evidently you don't recognize how dumb you sound

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            television isn't real

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I do, they don't.
            >but they're work for a car show so they MUST be good drivers
            If you were able to use your own judgment rather than appealing to their position of authority you would see that they aren't good drivers, since you completely lack this judgement I can only assume it is because you have absolutely no idea about driving yourself.

            How many professional races have you won anon?

            It is entirely possible to have the knowledge and ability to drive fast without winning races anon.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I read books about driving fast so clearly I know more that someone who's job it was to drive cars fast

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >read books
            Lmao, I actually just do it.
            >who's job it was to drive cars fast
            Their job is entertainment remember, they don't drive cars fast.

            that was not james may

            Yeah he's supposed to be one of the better of the 3 at driving, James is even worse.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the one that crashes all the time is supposed to be the better of the 3
            Which show did you watch lmao

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's right James is even worse which is why he knows never to go anywhere even remotely close to a car's limits.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's right James is even worse which is why he knows never to go anywhere even remotely close to a car's limits.

            You are even worse than James May until proven otherwise.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Little Jamesie gets MOGGED by the big muscular Van Chads

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            shame i don't live near you. would love to see a gif of my own boat hauling ass around a bend like that lmao

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah he's supposed to be one of the better of the 3 at driving, James is even worse.
            wasn't that actually a fault in some shitty torque vectoring program the manufacturer used in the car? I remember there was an interview between hammond and the CEO of the company that made the car and i could feel that he isn't one bit honest, just a scared b***h trying to damage control his company.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No that was his cope which just further proves how ABSOLUTELY moronicLY CLUELESS he is about driving fast. He even got in a tiff with some racing driver who said something like:
            >A racing driver would not have crashed like that
            And why did he say that? Because anyone who has half a racing brain, which I must assume you do not, can see that he took a completely moronic line into that corner which is the entire reason he crashed.

            Hammond's cope and denial about the crash shows how stupid he is: his logic is that because he tried to make the car slide in testing by flooring it around a corner, but the car wouldn't slide, then that meant the car couldn't slide at all..... so when it did slide it must've been some "anomaly with the torque vectoring". This is complete moronation because anyone with a modicum of experience in cars with anywhere near or greater than 50% rear weight bias knows that accelerating around a corner will INCREASE REAR TRACTION AND A TENDENCY TOWARDS UNDERSTEER, and anyone with any knowledge of handling at all knows that even a car setup to understeer CAN OVERSTEER if you swing it pendulum style (like Hamster did) especially if you snap off the throttle or brake hard at the right time.

            He did everything wrong and blamed everyone else.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I would generally agree until i saw that homosexual CEO squirming under scrutiny.
            >>A racing driver would not have crashed like that
            because racing drivers don't usually drive some cucked millenial ev appliance designed by techbros.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The CEO guy has no idea why Hammond crashed, he's a tech nerd, he could only say that they didn't find anything wrong in the data, he was nervous because someone was trying to blame him for shit that he had no idea how to deny.
            Watch the footage of Hammond crashing - you can see for yourself, like that racing driver saw, that Hammond made the typical mistake of not compromising your line in the first corner to set yourself up for the second corner.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >GM CEO states he has no idea why ignition coils keep failing, causing car to explode
            >Clearly that driver did something wrong because a good driver wouldn't let their car explode

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay but where does Hamster's abhorrent driving line come into your imaginary scenario?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >t. has 3 hpde days under his belt and now thinks he's the fastest driver ever
            shiggy diggy

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            projecting

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, I just know way too many people exactly like you

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and your projecting them onto me

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How much track time do you have under your belt then?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            none, I'm 100% street homie

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Larping moron, figured as much.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            projecting

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you actually don't know shit about driving, you just think making loud broom broom noises out of your dacia is skill

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            projecting

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You say that a lot. You also make claims of skill but offer no evidence.
            Hitchens’ Razor applies

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Read the thread again bucko

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The thread is about May being right on the matters of cars.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            May the pencil pushing journalist who has never entered a corner fast in his life

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He was part of a professional driving team before he set foot in the BBC

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Larsen's Biscuits and Peniston Oils were his sponsors

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Honestly I just had two days of one of those classes and it made me realize the magnitude of difference between where I am and professional driving

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, it's a pretty humbling experience if you go into it thinking you're hot shit. I was an instructor with the Svt cobra club for a while and rode along with tons of gays just like

            I do, they don't.
            >but they're work for a car show so they MUST be good drivers
            If you were able to use your own judgment rather than appealing to their position of authority you would see that they aren't good drivers, since you completely lack this judgement I can only assume it is because you have absolutely no idea about driving yourself.

            [...]
            It is entirely possible to have the knowledge and ability to drive fast without winning races anon.

            who came to the track thinking they were irl dagumi because they've driven fast on the street a few times. Without exception, they were the worst drivers of the day, lel.
            It takes a lot of seat time before you get decent, but even just a day or two of HPDE is enormously helpful for getting better. Best thing you can do is just listen and learn, be open to criticism and advice from the instructors.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How many professional races have you won anon?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            tiff times himself mowing his lawn, im not sure if hes a man whos opinion should be entirely trusted on anything

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He was also the only one of the three who ever did professional driving

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            May has the best taste in cars of the Top Gear crew, and all of his opinions have been entirely vindicated
            >458 Speciale is one of the all time great Ferraris
            >Alpine A110 is the best lightweight sports car on the market
            >good handling and comfortable ride is more important in real life than lap time
            >electric cars only make sense for rich city dwellers with country homes

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >drive Veyron 200 mph
        >can't drive evo in a tunnel
        wow he's sooooo good at being le EPIC racing driver.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah because driving in a tunnel screws with your driving a lot

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Out of the 3, I'm pretty sure May has crashed the most cars. Hammond's a close second.
            I don't recall Clarkson ever crashing anything.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Outside of the show, Hammond has definitely crashed the most and he tends to have the worst crashes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Outside of the show, Hammond has definitely crashed the most and he tends to have the worst crashes.

            why don't they just hook a wheel to their computers and play assetto like us DAchads? these silly clueless boomers haha they don't know how to drive fast...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post car

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          is that the 5sfte? maybe one day i'll come down in my barge and throw it around those roads

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but that was when it was 73kws of 2S-C power
            Marulan is starting up drift days again bruz, although they're starting off as a wet track "driver anti-skid training" sorta deal, but it's better than nothing.
            If the concept is successful I might see you at one some day

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    well anyone who knows anything understands that Nerdburger gays chasing laptimes are just peak cringe; a natural outgrowth of unrestrained homosexualry that is inevitable

    it's like the advent of the nuclear bomb. it's unlikely we'll ever surpass it in terms of destructive capabilities, so there's some comfort in knowing that nerfberg is about as gay as things will ever get. probably gonna get less gay as safety nazis gain more power.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This picture was taken in Raleigh, North Carolina.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >filename
      That's just like any other day here really

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I did not expect that

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's unlikely we'll ever surpass it in terms of destructive capabilities
      A bomb that operates at the quantum chromodynamic level is possible and would likely crack a planet. In the future, we're likely to be throwing stellar bodies around as kinetic weapons. You wanna know what happens when a neutron star whacks a planet at near lightspeed? Big destruction.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you agree with him?
    i do take his point on cars over relying on using the burger king to design cars but its a moot point from a guy who has a dino rosso 458 speciale. i think at the time he was just sick of every car manufacturer shouting MUH NURBURGRING TIME and forgetting what's its like to live with those cars on real roads on a daily basis, especially the suspensions.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he was just sick of every car manufacturer shouting MUH NURBURGRING TIME and forgetting what's its like to live with those cars on real roads on a daily basis, especially the suspensions.

      Literally this.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he was just sick of every car manufacturer shouting MUH NURBURGRING TIME and forgetting what's its like to live with those cars on real roads on a daily basis, especially the suspensions.

      Literally this.

      the simple solution is to turn body roll and a raceable living room into selling points
      kinda like how that ruf yellowbird burger ring video gets people wild but the driver was deliberately drifting and spinning the car since actually driving fast would've looked a lot more dull
      make an ad like that but instead show off how much it bounces and how much fun everyone inside is having

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the simple solution is to turn body roll and a raceable living room into selling points
        yeah

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          after spamming this clip on this board i finally got the previous year model of that car on the way to my house. ive found a section of road that i might be able to replicate that turn with...after i fix it up of course

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Based, post it anon, I wanna see

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's finally here. it's actually smaller/narrower than i thought it'd be. it's a long boi though.
            although the engine is cooked. it apparently split a heater hose (previous owner bypassed the heater core but bent the hose so much, goddamnit) and pissed all the coolant out, then got hot enough to apparently make a small fire on the exhaust manifolds. dunno what caught fire though, fuel or oil.
            through zuckbook groups for this car i found a cool boomer that rebuilds these engines. i could probably do it myself, but i would likely stuff something up and knowing myself, i'd take a ridiculously long time to finish it. And this guy really knows his shit. When I was talking to him on the phone he started drifting off topic in a very stereotypical boomer fashion, but I loved it. It was cool just talking about cars and random shit
            the interior looks nice, but things like the window cranks are really hard to move, and the speedo is broken. so i don't feel so bad about hooning and modifying it, and wanting to manual swap it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            checked
            pretty nice annon

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            thanks 😀
            the guy took a look at it today, we managed to get it to turn over, and even though it's misfiring and probably running on 4 cylinders, holy shit it sounds fricken MEAN, you really feel it more than you hear it. i asked him about a holley sniper kit and he warned me away from it, telling me to just stick with the AVS2 carb since it's sprays fuel into the engine with a pattern that's closer to a fuel injector than a conventional carb.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Checked after market throttle body injection isn't worth it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's right. There's a lot less to go wrong with carbs, and their unreliability is massively overstated. I daily carbed v8s and I've installed a lot of those Holley efi kits, and I can tell you the efi absolutely is not worth it.
            Old pushrod V8's with carbs and points are moronicly simple to wrench on and fix, and hard to kill. Nice car anon, that thing is sweet.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Carbs may be easy to work on, but EFI is even simpler again because you turn the key and it just werks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's a big difference between a factory EFI setup and an aftermarket Sniper/Terminator installation on a previously carbed car. I've had to fix the former on tons of shitboxes and they're almost always more of a pain than the carb was originally. But boomers usually think EFI=easy, so they dump a few grand into these systems only to have them shit the bed. Unless you're doing forced induction or making big power, they're rarely worth it.
            Carbs just werk too when you have them set up right. Haven't touched the carb on my truck in 3 years and it starts up every time, no matter the weather. But yeah, occasional cleaning in inevitable.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            fix the latter*
            Sorry, I'm no english major.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just don't leave it sitting long enough for the fuel to dry up in the bowl

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Can't forget to do that also because of corn gas turning to gelatin.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Carbs either need to be tuned daily for good power/efficiency, or are brute forcing results at expense of performance and efficiency

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Where does this misconception even come from? That's not even remotely true.
            What would you even be tuning on a carb every day? You set your float height and jet size when you rebuild it, set your idle mix and choke when its on the car, and you're done. As long as the carb doesn't get shit in it, you don't have to touch it for years.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Carbs either need to be tuned daily for good power/efficiency
            bro what. even though i've never dealt with carbs ive never heard this one

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cool color too. I think Ivory's really underrated.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah it looks nice, but honestly, i'm still kicking myself for waiting too long on one that used to be owned by the army of all things. it had a really cool army green paint too. previous owner already overhauled the engine to run on unleaded, and it had a radio and passenger mirror too. this car needs all three kek.

            He's right. There's a lot less to go wrong with carbs, and their unreliability is massively overstated. I daily carbed v8s and I've installed a lot of those Holley efi kits, and I can tell you the efi absolutely is not worth it.
            Old pushrod V8's with carbs and points are moronicly simple to wrench on and fix, and hard to kill. Nice car anon, that thing is sweet.

            https://i.imgur.com/l6blGda.jpeg

            There's a big difference between a factory EFI setup and an aftermarket Sniper/Terminator installation on a previously carbed car. I've had to fix the former on tons of shitboxes and they're almost always more of a pain than the carb was originally. But boomers usually think EFI=easy, so they dump a few grand into these systems only to have them shit the bed. Unless you're doing forced induction or making big power, they're rarely worth it.
            Carbs just werk too when you have them set up right. Haven't touched the carb on my truck in 3 years and it starts up every time, no matter the weather. But yeah, occasional cleaning in inevitable.

            thanks again, i'll definitely get an avs2 with electric choke. im sure it'll be a nice bump from whatever 2 barrel carb is in there. my primary concern is being able to just turn the key and go every time, ive only ever owned 90s EFI toyotas so far, so it's a bit of a jump going to a 60s frickhueg carbed v8.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've tossed tiny stock hatchbacks with springy econoshit suspensions like that webm and had a great time

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's sped way up.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it isn't
            it's from The Seven Ups. nothing in that car chase was sped up at all
            there's one point where the bad guy in the pontiac blows off a door and in the next scene you can actually see one of the camera crew diving for cover. the behind the scenes for the movie is pretty wild.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you don't need to sacrifice comfort for performance, but good suspension that can comfortably handle shit roads and racetracks (like ohlins dfv) is expensive, while slapping stiffer struts onto a car and calling it "sport" costs nothing

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i know but really i'm just sick of the whole pandering to people who ask for things they'll probably never use. Just look at the camry, it used to wear its blandness with pride. now though, it's gotta be sporty because people kept b***hing that a grocery getter looks too much like a grocery getter. and if you wanted the bigger engine option, it gets rubber band tyres along with that instead of the fatter sidewalls the lower trims got

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh man I hate low profile tires more than anything, I don't get where the frick they came from because they're awful in performance applications as well. Toyota's design dept is a mess and has been for a long time, it's too bad they can't poach Volvo's team or something. But speaking of Volvo, they keep getting savaged by moronic car journalists because their cars aren't "fun to drive" despite being comfortable and well-built. Total journalist death

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What I would give for more meat on the tyres of every modern car. High profile/thinner tyres are much cheaper too!
            Billions must float along in comfort.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            even le pinnacle of racing got infected by the cancer a few years ago. We need to RETVRN

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But speaking of Volvo, they keep getting savaged by moronic car journalists because their cars aren't "fun to drive" despite being comfortable and well-built. Total journalist death
            Aren't they owned by Geely now? I heard the QC on them has gone to shit in recent years. I was in a Polestar recently and it makes Tesla seem like Teutonic luxury.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, Geely bought them, but have been pretty hands off. The build quality is still good in my experience, though like any other manufacturer they'll make duds. They've been having problems with their TCAM electronics module, especially in their EVs, and the hardware for their Android-based infotainment was generally underspecced until recently. The twincharge I4 engine that they were using is a pile of shit, while the others are horribly underpowered. Moving away from their nice I6s to overstressed 4-bangers was a mistake, but Europe gonna Europe

            As for Polestar, I tried a Polestar 2 out and it felt like a coffin inside, and the materials quality is mediocre because they're all-in on using recycled shit. The leather upgrade helps a bit, but it's definitely not up to par with older Volvos

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Total journalist death
            This.
            >corvette able to trade blows with the 911 and some Ferraris for an affordable price
            >journalists complain the vette isn't midengined
            >vette is now midengined and no longer affordable
            >journalists still complain

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they're awful in performance applications as well
            how so? i thought the lower profile is meant to give better/quicker steering response since there's less sidewall flex

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kind of agree because the burgerking is quite a technical mountain course with varying speed corners and a narrow width as well as a good series of climbs and descents, on top of questionable road conditions compared to a dedicated track. It's no shit, a European touge course under the guise of circuit racing. The problem with the burgerking however, is how easy it is to just min-max speed over handling due to the length of some of the straights. My personal beef against the burgerking however is not about the track itself but the culture it bred about
    >X car is faster than Y bcuz burger lap timez
    when a car is more than horsepower and lap times

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. I hold the somewhat conflicting opinion that the Nurburgring is a fantastic racetrack in and of itself, and the Ring 24 Hours is the greatest endurance race on Earth- Le Mans eat your heart out- in no small part due to the sheer amount of classes and variety of cars that participate including everyday cars with rollcages alongside race spec GT cars, but ironically can't stand how those same everyday shitboxes must all be factory tuned for Muh Hurrdurrring Times for internet benchracing because that's what the bean counters think effective marketing is.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    well there's got to be a standard that every manufacturer compares each other to, and I think a well-regulated course lap time is much better than muh 0-62

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes because who the frick cares about laptimes. They're a completely useless metric to judge performance. The only time it ever means anything is when it's done by the same driver on the same day with the same tires. As soon as you start comparing times done by random journalists and nameless company drivers in entirely different seasons with who even knows what tires then they're totally incomparable. One reason I respect Ford is they don't give a shit about the nurburgring and have never set """official""" laptimes

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he's kinda right.
    too many car manufacturers were/Are wanking over Burger-King times.
    And that's coming from someone like me who is a track rat that races all the time.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, the burgerking is a fantastic track but its laptimes overfixation is benchracer central.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Track != street, and a car designed to have the fastest lap times does not make for the most fun street car. You overemphasize top-end power over a wide torque band since your professional driver will always be in the right gear. You end up in a horsepower war because the easiest way to shave tenths off your time is to just accelerate faster out of corners, when the street driver is not generally racing up to 150MPH on back road straights trying to get to the end of the road the absolute fastest. (anyone who does try to 10/10 down straights is going to end up dead because it's absurdly easy to 20/10 an unfamiliar straight. (my closest calls have all come from going down a straight. The closest was doing 105 in a 40 in a Plymouth Grand Voyager. Caught air on a bump on just a slight curve in the road and didn't come down until I was in the other lane heading straight for a telephone pole.)
    A track car is built wide for stability when you don't want wide on a narrow road with oncoming traffic, and having complete stability takes the fun out of driving. Having a back end that's a bit lively but controllable is way more fun than taking a corner like the car is on rails.
    And a track car's suspension setup is just wrong for the street. If you see a NISMO Type R Z06 vibrating itself down the road, you just know the driver is thinking, "My stiff suspension is the HIGHEST PERFORMANCE ONE and the harsh ride is just the price I pay for performance!" When in actuality the vibration means that your suspension is set up wrong for the surface and speed you're driving at. Chassis movement should not be a part of the suspension geometry. There's a reason we don't hard mount the drivetrain and just let the chassis jump about over bumps. It's fricking terrible for performance. The suspension allows for the tire to follow the road, but if it's ramming the corner of the car into the sky, it's not following the road very well.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Read this, agree. Also steering, camber/toe. Nobody thinks twice to check it or set it up properly... Sad 🙁

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Nobody

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      also absolutely massive brakes which never get anywhere to their heat capacity but still requiring you to get huge wheels for extra unsprung weight and no sidewall

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tall millionaire charismatic celebrity
    >no children
    what is wrong with him

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      many such cases

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its better than the top speed wars where all of the early 90s to mid 00s otherwise fast cars had stupid gearing and no aero at all. Nurburgring definitely fricked up some GT cars (see 550->599->F12->812, every model gets worse for actually road tripping), but for sports cars I don't really mind the influence of the lap time chasing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some of those cars made so much power and torque that I don't even mind the thought of careening towards 200 mph in 4th

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT: a bunch of morons who haven't figured out that maybe the characters the actors played in one of the most scripted shows on the planet are not 100% true to the way they are in real life

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no they're just pretending to be shit drivers, they're secretly really good but no one has ever seen it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, they're making entertainment, not documentaries.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm sure they are making entertainment, they're still shit drivers.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [citation needed]

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that was not james may

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    modern car comfort is ruined more by safety standards and emissions more then Nürburgring lap time publicity.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Holy shit I just realised this is an uncle Ted reference

    Industrial society and its future

    Give it a read

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you 12 years old?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >every car has low-profile tyres and hard suspension
    He’s right

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Except it has nothing to do with nurburgring times

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Nordschleife especially favors top speed because of that ridiculously long straight.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Burgerring was built to be a test track for production cars.
    >lots of elevation
    >variation of turns
    >long lap to have many driving situations

    Seconds dont really matter but its a difference when a car needs 7 or 10 minutes for a lap.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a quick google search determines that it was for racing

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously not, every car is a fricking suv or crossover these days.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nowehere near as bad as what bong-gear did to it. Or the bongs in general for that matter,

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