So they're not going away until a Saudi collapse are they

So they're not going away until a Saudi collapse are they

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Saudis have incredible amounts of oil money to throw at everything, they're desperately trying to diversify their economy because they know oil isn't going to last forever

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >peak oil
      the 70s called they want their meme back lmao

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm sure the camel frickers who's entire god damn economy is oil are in on the EV conspiracy too

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it's nothing to do with there not being enough oil left

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Peak oil demand, not peak oil supply. EVs are going to destroy oil demand.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Behind coal the 2nd biggest source of electricity in the world is natural gas. It comes from the oil companies and costs much less to refine than gasoline.
            EVs make oil companies rock hard.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Natural gas is too expensive, it generally gets used for peak electric demand, although it is even starting to get priced out of that market.
            EVs tend to charge off-peak. Either at night when fossil fuel energy production shuts down due to cost and hydro-electric and nuclear take over, or at mid-day when solar power makes many people's electric meters run backwards.

            The smart Saudis are desperately trying to diversify their holdings because they know that Saudi Arabia is a house of cards that will collapse as soon as the world no longer has to kiss their butts and that they'll need money to move to safety in the west.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Natural gas is too expensive, it generally gets used for peak electric demand, although it is even starting to get priced out of that market. EVs tend to charge off-peak.
            Well, if everone has an EV then suddenly it's always peak load and demand for natural gas skyrockets. We're decommissioning nuclear plants in the US, not building them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >We're decommissioning nuclear plants in the US, not building them.
            Only a few old plants have been de-commissioned, and new plants with even more capacity have been built or are in the approval process now that the fossil fuel lobby are have less power in this administration.

            >if everone has an EV then suddenly it's always peak load
            Demand really wouldn't change that much. Oil refineries and gas distribution already draws TWh of electricity 24/7.
            25 miles from a gallon of fossil-sourced gas, or 24 miles from direct electrification with 4 mile a kWh EVs.
            That's a tiny difference to handle over the next 30 years before the US projects ~99% EV adoption.

            Plus that's just the current average EV vs the most optimistic number for oil. Oil infrastructure is getting more electrically-intensive, and EVs are getting more efficient.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Demand really wouldn't change that much.
            grid expansion requires an estimated 35% more routes.
            and thats just the car infrastructure and not heat pumps or just growth.
            this estimate is from a department head in the electricity grid division of a medium-sized city.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you combine coal and natural gas grid generation, the total amount in the USA is going down. (more coal is being shut down than natural gas is being brought online). That means when coal is near or at zero production, natural gas will start shutting down, too.

            Even if that weren't the case, oil itself is a separate commodity. You can't just convert oil to natural gas, or visa versa, so the demand of oil will still go down even if natural gas were to go to the moon.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it's nothing to do with there not being enough oil left

          Behind coal, the 2nd-biggest source of electricity in the world is nat gas. Oil producers are fine with EVs.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thing is that can easily be replaced, there's a reason why oil israelites have been lobbying hard against new nuclear plants and astroturfing nonesense like solar and wind

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            they found a new way or better, they found a way to sell their oil.
            they now go for more plastics.
            yes, even more than now.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Do you actually think the primary use of oil is electricity?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    EvChuds Lost

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >China will collapse next week
    >Russia will collapse next week
    >Saudi/UAE will collapse next week
    My brother in christ big mac is 10 dollars and Kidsniffer-In-Chief about to give 95 billions to ~~**~~)

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I will save Lucid one post at a time.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    imagine coming to a board for car enthusiasts to talk about fricking electric grid infrastructure lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wait until you find out that oil extraction and refinement uses electricity

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, they will be buy out by some Chinese company, and become a sub brand which focus on selling rebadged Chinese cars with luxury tax and assembled in Mexico to non Chinese markets

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