what's the legality of someone owning an EV that caught fire and damaged someone else's property?

what's the legality of someone owning an EV that caught fire and damaged someone else's property?
I have a feeling insurance companies will be "encouraging" congressmen to pass laws to shield them from liability and leave the owners at fault.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The seafarers' union should lobby to ban fully-assembled battery packs (whether for cars, e-scooters, solar storage etc.) from being shipped. Only unconnected, non-energized cells in protective packaging should be transported. Assembly into full battery packs should only be performed locally, on land.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >non-energized cells
      That doesn't work with lithium batteries. They need at least a minimum amount of charge to even be functional after, same with lead batteries, but those aren't as volatile, if you disregard the acid.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Even so, as long as they're kept as separate cells (even with a weak charge from the factory) in shielded packaging, and not blobbed together into a 10+ kWh module (and especially not mounted into a full electrical circuit like a car or e-scooter), they shouldn't pose any notable issues.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you'd have to account for the salt water as even a minor imperfection of the battery pack assembly could get even more damaged from the corrosive ocean air.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's hundreds of thousands of non EVs that catch fire every year in the USA, so probably the same as those.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yea, but non EVs don't just spontaneously burst into flames sitting on a ship and if they do it's always the electrical system

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The best part of this is that it is the low-voltage system on internal combustion cars that were actually tracked down as the cause of the fires you're talking about.

        High voltage battery fires are a tiny minority of fires even looking just at EVs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          uh huh

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Neither of those disprove any of what I said. HV battery fires do need special attention and training, but there have been less than 500 HV battery fires. With millions of EVs on the road a big part of the problem for fire services is that HV fires are so exceptionally rare many people have never encountered one before so there is a lack of experience.

            Most of the fires are also from a single defective batch of Chinese NMC batteries.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but the fire on that ship appearently was caused by an EV.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Did you read the OP?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            From the information I found from non-sensationalist sources, the fire started in an area of the ship away from where the EVs were.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-05/volkswagen-faces-lawsuits-over-claim-porsche-ev-battery-sparked-ship-fire

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but the fire on that ship appearently was caused by an EV.

            >EV was onboard
            >EV caused fire
            Seems to be the limit of the logic behind these.

            My impression is clickbait from the right-wing fossil fuel connected media, and an attempt by scummy lawyers to implicate Porsche to attempt to force an out of court settlement from VAG.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            LOL cope

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >non-sensationalist

            Meaning soi-infused/climate alarmist/pro-EV?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But that's literally what happened a few months ago.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          LOL cope

          Where is the proof? Sorry, but I haven't seen any and it seems to be just an anti-EV media narrative.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.carscoops.com/2023/08/evs-may-not-have-caused-fremantle-highway-fire-after-all/

            The decks where the electric cars were undamaged, while the combustion car deck storage was melted.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Convenient how this comes out months after everyone has already established an alternate narrative

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >they were not properly informed of the danger and precautions needed to transport electric vehicles
    Surely they have access to Google?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Always avoid parking beside ev cucks, you never know when they'll spontaneously burst into flames.

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