When did you realize that the American market is hopelessly aspirational?

When did you realize that the American market is hopelessly aspirational?
Just take a look at "luxury" cars in the American market. You can sell an absolute shitbox but as long as the badge is marketed as exclusive, burgers will overpay for it. The same cars you can buy as Toyotas and Hondas in Japan had to get a special badge to be commercially successful in America. And all too often, the Japanese Toyotas and Hondas are more luxurious than the Lexii and Acuras sold in America. It's a shallow society where appearances matter more than objective merits like build quality or equipment. Even the Chinese know better, just look at the VW Phideon. They don't ask for it to be badged Audi to buy it. It's in fact more luxurious and expensive than many Audis, but they know it's worth it because of what it offers. Teslas have an extremely stripped interior yet they're marketed as luxury cars so Americans go out in droves to buy them despite the horrible quality and aggressive segmentation (the Model 3 is especially guilty of this, with an interior intended to shame the buyer for not splurging more, plebs don't even get a right to a properly placed speedometer).
Then again, America's the home of the people who sold lands for shiny beads, it's literally in their DNA.
When an American says "I'm 1/64 Choctaw", what he really means is "I am swayed by shallow appearances".

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blow it out your ass

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      now that is a great trugg
      t. bong

      https://i.imgur.com/Oy0RlhJ.jpeg

      When did you realize that the American market is hopelessly aspirational?
      Just take a look at "luxury" cars in the American market. You can sell an absolute shitbox but as long as the badge is marketed as exclusive, burgers will overpay for it. The same cars you can buy as Toyotas and Hondas in Japan had to get a special badge to be commercially successful in America. And all too often, the Japanese Toyotas and Hondas are more luxurious than the Lexii and Acuras sold in America. It's a shallow society where appearances matter more than objective merits like build quality or equipment. Even the Chinese know better, just look at the VW Phideon. They don't ask for it to be badged Audi to buy it. It's in fact more luxurious and expensive than many Audis, but they know it's worth it because of what it offers. Teslas have an extremely stripped interior yet they're marketed as luxury cars so Americans go out in droves to buy them despite the horrible quality and aggressive segmentation (the Model 3 is especially guilty of this, with an interior intended to shame the buyer for not splurging more, plebs don't even get a right to a properly placed speedometer).
      Then again, America's the home of the people who sold lands for shiny beads, it's literally in their DNA.
      When an American says "I'm 1/64 Choctaw", what he really means is "I am swayed by shallow appearances".

      Is the Model 3 really marketed as a luxury car?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      not a fan of that gen GMT but thats really epic...

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I drive a CX-5 and it's rather nice inside

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would say that Mazda is on par with many of the so called luxury brands, but there you have it. It's a great value but no one would pay as much for a Mazda as they do for an equivalent Lexus.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would say that Mazda is on par with many of the so called luxury brands, but there you have it. It's a great value but no one would pay as much for a Mazda as they do for an equivalent Lexus.

      I love Mazda, just wish the 3 had more premium options like ventilated seats

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They have a lot of that in their society. Some examples:
    - The more money you spend the richer you become
    - If you eat yourself into pre-diabetes that means you're a top fitness influencer
    - The more productive/beneficial to society you are the less money/respect/status you will get
    - The funniest one: no one is allowed to have sex, it's a serious criminal offense. Unless it's for a porn film
    In short: it's a weird twisted society, somehow they managed to climb their way to the top by accident and their way of thinking spread all over the world. Don't take it too seriously or overthink it, just point and laugh. It won't last long.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      JUST TWO MORE WEEKS EUROBROS

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        JUST TWO MORE TRILLIONS FROM BIDEN AND TSMC WILL MOVE TO OKLAHOMA

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >somehow they managed to climb their way to the top by accident
      Literally
      >join WW I late and on the clearly winning side
      >lend UK the largest loan in the history
      This is why US became a superpower. This is why democracy is treated as the default. Not because their values or political system is in any way superior to the European monarchies of pre-WWI era (it was in fact inferior in almost every aspect).

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can say from experience that the Lexus ES rides and feels considerably nicer than the Camry, so I disagree with your sentiment that it's all about badge.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The just stuff some recycled cut-up fabric in the doors. Costs at most $5 more to make over a Camry, but they sell it at $20k markup. Americans call it "premium" or "luxury".

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You say that, but a Lexus ES is literally just a Toyota Windom

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll say this about Audi vs Volkswagen. The Volkswagens seem loud and clunky in comparison to the audis

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You mean modern Audis right?

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If they charged us money for the amount of room we take up in their heads, they wouldn't be europoors anymore

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no replies
      Yuropoors on suicide watch

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/SlTfgzi.jpeg

        If they charged us money for the amount of room we take up in their heads, they wouldn't be europoors anymore

        Hard to claim "rent free" when the US military is in fact everywhere stirring shit up. We'd all love an isolationist America so we could finally go back to living before we had to worry about what country your people of moronic obese mongrels will chose as the next sacrifice to entertain them.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This, the war in Ukraine is literally America's fault

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            England has been involved with them, too, since 1945

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >complains about burger interventionism
          >wails about "fascism" and muh trannies any time Trump or any other populist anti-war candidate runs for office anywhere on the planet
          Yuros chose their future when they subcontracted their continental military defense to a country run by the likes of GWB

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Man imagine being geopolitically subverted by moronic obese mongrels. Sad

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >moronic obese mongrels
            They can't even zog for the military to spread their interests, which is soda, fast food, and mindless spending. They're literally a captive population that serves to pump le big GDP number higher. They don't even have a large diaspora population, but openly welcome other diaspora populations that embrace being fat and stupid. They already have half of that covered. Can't get better goycattle than that.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The two most common cars on American roads are the standard Honda Accord and Civic, respectively.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You say all this, but at least where I live the luxury brands (other than maybe Porsche) are much more likely to be owned by immigrants while actual Americans drive "mainstream" brands and trucks.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bro frick euros, frick automatics

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No voy a leer todo eso amigo

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pic
    >reeding on outside of faces
    fricking Black folk never looked at a coin in their fricking lives swear to fricking god there hasn't been a single coin with that shit in over a century let alone a fricking kennedy half dollar

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It's a shallow society where appearances matter more than objective merits
    Yes. It's not exactly new or unknown. But better your OP than another shit thread about trucks.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >words words words
    luv me some simple affordable vee eights
    god bless America for those

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    American market is weird, you have some of the cheapest cars in the world. People choose a Honda over a BMW to save $3000 while in other countries the price is double.
    Common cars like the Dodge Challenger, Camaro high end pick up trucks, Corvette etc are sold as specialty luxury cars in Europe.
    You can't really compare Japan, a normal car is very expensive there, even in Europe the Japanese cars have cheaper interiors.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't really make sense to compare America to the rest of the world. American cars can get away with things that would not work at all outside of Canada or Mexico. In a way it's a galapagos market where a unique subset of cars develops because of the conditions there, but at the same time, North America is a huge car market so it's just the norm here.

      Americans rarely venture outside of their country, let alone their home state, so they don't understand how different it is elsewhere, which is why they think that a 1/2 ton pickup truck is the answer to every automotive question, even if the roads in other nations just won't fit one. There's a lot of users that genuinely believe that the whole world is just like America, and expects to be treated in an American way.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Americans rarely venture outside of their country, let alone their home state
        You can say the same about someone of just about any nationality.
        >even if the roads in other nations just won't fit one
        If I'm buying a vehicle in the US, why the hell would I care if it fit the roads in some other nation? What kind of special person is thinking, "I'd really like the new F-150, but it doesn't really fit in downtown Luxembourg." Or does this particular responsibility only fall on Americans for some reason. Frick off.
        >expects to be treated in an American way.
        I'm sure Ecuadorians expect to be treated as Ecuadorians, and Germans as Germans, and so on. Why is it so wrong for an American to be treated as an American? Besides it's just smart business to cater to a market's desires, regardless of the locale.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they don't understand how different it is elsewhere
        We absolutely understand how different it is elsewhere, which is *why* we never leave the country.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cope burgercel

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't it a hate crime for you to even be on this site?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cope burgercel

        keep seething at your ownpoverty thirdie

        >There's a lot of users that genuinely believe that the whole world is just like America, and expects to be treated in an American way.
        DA is an american site, don't like it leave it

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh look, europoors complaining about how Americans spend their money....

    Tell is about how efficient your 200 square foot apartment and 1L shitbox are and how proud you are that your tax money is used to house and feed Achmed, his 3 wives and 9 kids.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Then again, America's the home of the people who sold lands for shiny beads, it's literally in their DNA.
    >When an American says "I'm 1/64 Choctaw", what he really means is "I am swayed by shallow appearances".
    Damn, what a way to accurately summarize America in two sentences.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It used to be that Americans actually did appreciate a nice, comfy and luxurious ride, but unfortunately that was back when the Greatest Generation were still alive. Boomers and early gen X are the only ones left that still appreciate real cars, but only the muscle cars they dreamed of owning as kids, and maybe the Countach they had a poster of.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      My father is Silent Gen, he wants a Rover P6, but since moving to burgerland in the 1980s, that is a pipe dream.

      (He also had a K5 Blazer with a CB radio station and once beat a bunch of Black folk with pipes and chains after they tried stealing the radio unit. He got a free pair of vise grips from that.)

    • 2 months ago
      READ ME

      Comfy, semi lux rides still exist. Full sized trucks and SUVs, CUVs.

  17. 2 months ago
    READ ME

    American luxury is full sized trucks and suvs with leather interiors.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Comfy, semi lux rides still exist. Full sized trucks and SUVs, CUVs.

      >solid axles
      >luxury
      Of course.

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