Why are new diesel cars becoming less common, diesel is the best, i love my diesel guzzling shitbox

Why are new diesel cars becoming less common, diesel is the best, i love my diesel guzzling shitbox

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's because of tax policy. Consider that I have to pay 400€/year extra just because I own a diesel. Diesel price is exact same as gasoline and the engine efficiency alone isn't gonna compensate for it unless I became a professional driver like a taxi.

    Personally I love the fact that I can simply let go of the clutch and be launched forward, even at second gear while standing still.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/1gelVS4.jpeg

      Why are new diesel cars becoming less common, diesel is the best, i love my diesel guzzling shitbox

      There are some quality of life issues with diesel shitboxes normies don't want to deal with:
      >driving only low-RPM low-distance low-duration trips to work and supermarket will clog the particle filter and turbo
      They'd have to rev up once in a while or drive a bit longer. Also
      >modern diesel is too dry for a shitbox, nozzles will clog up unless additives are put in
      In cold weather there are issues with >glowplugs failing
      >forgetting to fuel winter-grade diesel while summer-grade is now pudding inside the tank
      >modern diesel AdBlue™ systems suicide below 12F temperatures

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You forgot diesel is like 50% more expensive and gets about 30% fewer miles per gallon. Gas near me has jumped to $3.38/gal. Diesel just from memory is like $5/gal. If a shibox gets 30mpg from regular driving, and shitbox (diesel) gets 20-25, thats and equivalent to euro fuel prices.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's a crazy price difference. Over here it used to be diesel was ~$4/gal and gas $8/gal, but when the first news about potential war rising in Ukraine a few months before anything was visible in oil prices, the pump prices doubled overnight.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You forgot diesel is like 50% more expensive and gets about 30% fewer miles per gallon. Gas near me has jumped to $3.38/gal. Diesel just from memory is like $5/gal. If a shibox gets 30mpg from regular driving, and shitbox (diesel) gets 20-25, thats and equivalent to euro fuel prices.

            diesels can run off of excess jet fuel that can't be used since it got siphoned out of a jet and the airfield would rather not risk a lawsuit then reuse the fuel. Just needs lubricant to make it flow nicely.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh frick thats good news to know, now we just have to find someone giving away jet fuel for less than $2/gallon.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's a crazy price difference. Over here it used to be diesel was ~$4/gal and gas $8/gal, but when the first news about potential war rising in Ukraine a few months before anything was visible in oil prices, the pump prices doubled overnight.

          Here, diesel cars used to get better mileage and the fuel was cheaper too (it was mostly untaxed), but their efficiency and reliability have just been going to hell with all the emissions compliance crap.
          Now diesel fuel costs about the same as gasoline around here, you have to pay extra emissions tax for the car, and make sure the thing can pass emissions tests on top of that.
          And at least in smaller cars, a modern turbo gasoline engine pulls about as hard as those old cheap diesels did. Maybe the diesel would still last longer if you have to drive across half the country every week, but few people need to drive like that anyway.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but their efficiency and reliability have just been going to hell with all the emissions compliance crap.
            Bluebird is a manufacturer of 50-foot long school busses here. They're dropping diesel engines for their newer busses in favor of a Ford 7.3 Godzilla gasoline engine. Why? Because new emissions shit on diesels and raw cost of diesel engines in general PLUS operating costs and repair/maintenance costs. Bluebird themselves estimate everything staying equal, in fuel costs alone PER BUS schools should save at least $2000 per year in fuel. Then that ignores all the higher costs of repairs and maintenance of diesels.

            Big heavy vehicle that spends a lot of time idling, and mostly stop-and-go driving they're still coming out ahead using 7.3 gas engine... In some US states they don't have emissions testing and people are paying $3000+ to delete the DEF system on brand new trucks.

            Now try to wrap your head around the costs of running a modern bigrig semi-truck.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > You forgot diesel is like 50% more expensive and gets about 30% fewer miles per gallon

          What in the frick are you talking about?
          https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/
          https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2019_Ford_F150_Pickup.shtml

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What in the frick are you talking about?
            I'm on about diesel costing significantly more, and doesn't get any better fuel mileage. Even comparing similar models, they don't get better mileage. What are you confused about? Ever notice the high mpg cars AREN'T diesel?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bait or you are total moron. Diesels generally are more fuel efficient and give your more miles per gallon than gasoline. When you tow heavy things the gasoline fuel consumption increases significantly hjigher than diesel.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >hjigher
            ^higher.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Diesels generally are more fuel efficient and give your more miles per gallon than gasoline.
            Oh yeah thats why Toyota and Honda make all their econoboxes with gas engines isn't it?

          • 3 weeks ago
            [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

            diesel is definitely more efficient, I doubled my MPGs by swapping to a diesel engine, even when the gas engine was 2.4L and the diesel is 3.0L
            the reasons for sticking to gas are emissions based, diesel emissions are extremely difficult and expensive to tame

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, that's because of
            >NOx regulations (or how we produce more CO2 in the name of ecology)
            >Directed by Alejandro González Iñárritu

            Cope.

          • 3 weeks ago
            [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

            im not coping I own like 15 cars, 4 of which are diesel the rest are gas
            as well as a shop to do diesel swaps in
            im swapping diesel engines into all my trucks for the sake of efficiency and the ability to run my entire truck fleet of one fuel and associated alternate fuels like black diesel and veg based fuels

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and associated alternate fuels like black diesel and veg based fuels
            Severe copium and profound mental moronation. Swaping perfectly good gasoline engines for diesel abominations to run fry oil for no reasons other than you own 15 cars and have too much time on your hands.

            Keep up your autism hobby if it makes you happy. But sell crazy somewhere else, you're full of shit and wrong.

          • 3 weeks ago
            [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

            >you're full of shit and wrong
            how can I be wrong when im getting 30mpg in my truck after swapping it when it got 15mpg before that
            I don't understand
            did I tap into supernatural fuels that put ghost fuel into my tank while I drive

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, that's because of
            >NOx regulations (or how we produce more CO2 in the name of ecology)
            >Directed by Alejandro González Iñárritu

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You forgot diesel is like 50% more expensive and gets about 30% fewer miles per gallon. Gas near me has jumped to $3.38/gal. Diesel just from memory is like $5/gal. If a shibox gets 30mpg from regular driving, and shitbox (diesel) gets 20-25, thats and equivalent to euro fuel prices.

          >Diesels generally are more fuel efficient and give your more miles per gallon than gasoline.
          Oh yeah thats why Toyota and Honda make all their econoboxes with gas engines isn't it?

          >Oh yeah thats why Toyota and Honda make all their econoboxes with gas engines isn't it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I suspect there's some sort of cartel going on, because their prices update at exact same second and are exactly the same

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NOx regulations pretty much killed them. Lowering cylinder temps to reduce NOx emissions directly decreases fuel consumption and increases sut production. Average compression ratios in diesels has literally gone down since the 2000s. Where they were once highly reliable and highly efficient machines. Thanks to modern regulations they are left neither efficiënt nor reliable.

      >Personally I love the fact that I can simply let go of the clutch and be launched forward, even at second gear while standing still.
      shoulda bought a V8

      https://i.imgur.com/XLN9yqS.png

      [...]
      There are some quality of life issues with diesel shitboxes normies don't want to deal with:
      >driving only low-RPM low-distance low-duration trips to work and supermarket will clog the particle filter and turbo
      They'd have to rev up once in a while or drive a bit longer. Also
      >modern diesel is too dry for a shitbox, nozzles will clog up unless additives are put in
      In cold weather there are issues with >glowplugs failing
      >forgetting to fuel winter-grade diesel while summer-grade is now pudding inside the tank
      >modern diesel AdBlue™ systems suicide below 12F temperatures

      this too. 90% of commuters only do short trips. Which is fricking terrible for cars in general, but even more troublesome in (modern) diesels.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They shit out NOx and anything done to make them cleaner directly harms fuel efficiency plus no one wants to deal with DEF

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