Why don't we get Peugeot or Dacia or Opal here in the US? Are we missing out on anything?

Why don't we get Peugeot or Dacia or Opal here in the US? Are we missing out on anything?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For those brands no, I don't think we're missing out on anything. But Citroen is a brand that I wish we had here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you realize citroens have been rebadged Peugeot for decades now ?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Peugeot or Dacia
        fair point
        >Opal here in the US
        Saturn Astra - Opel Astra
        Saturn Aura - Opel Vectra
        Buick Encore - Opel Mokka
        Buick Regal/Saab 9-5 - Opel Insignia
        Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice - Opel GT
        To be fair, you're not missing much, Opel, Pug and Dacia are generally anemic FWD shitboxes, with some exceptions (Opel GT, Speedster, OPC models, Peugeot's GT line)
        >t. Opel owner

        Engines are the same, and some interior bits are used in both, but Citroen is trying to be more of a premium brand (especially the DS line), also Pugs don't get based hydro suspension
        Renault (Dacia owner) seems the most deranged when it comes to hot hatches/tiny death traps with the Clio RS, Megane RS and Alpine 110.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          citroens don't get hydraulic suspensions either since the c5 went out of production, at best they use hydraulic bumpstops.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    in the free world you should be able to get them anyway. just like we here in europe we get american trucks without a single dealership in sight.
    yep missing out on dirth cheap used cars from cuckbox through family wagoon to work van that runs on fumes hauling your workshop in the back at 100mph.
    but since you are not free you can only get what cars your goverment allows you to buy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >dirth cheap used cars from cuckbox through family wagoon
      we already have these in america. without french reliability.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    we did.
    and they were unreliable garbage with bad pricing.
    so they stopped selling in the US all together.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Renault binned off the renaultsport stuff so is shit now
      >peugeot hasn't made anything decent since the 206 gti (and even that was flawed compared to the 106 gti) so is shit now
      >Dacia is just a Renault larping as a cheap car but they're not even that cheap anymore (so is shit now)
      >Opel had some great cars over the years under the OPC/VXR moniker but was bought out by Stellantis in 2017 so are just rebadged peugeots (so is now shit).
      not really

      I quite like the original C4 cactus (and the RCZ was kind of cool, though flawed). not much else comes to mind for recent models.

      i think a lot of this was just burger mechanics not being able to work on non-american cars.

      from what I've seen on youtube you guys have to take german stuff to a specialist german garage (as though they're working on something exotic like an XJS12 and not a completely normal car).

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >from what I've seen on youtube you guys have to take german stuff to a specialist german garage
        germans will design parts so they look weird or seem to require a special tool to remove properly even if really anything that can grip it will work. i've turned away audis and VWs from oil changes because the OE filter cartridge has a little extra gubbin on it that makes it incompatible with a normal filter socket, and even though if it was my car i would just fricking wing it and use a box wrench, lube monkeys and their bosses wont take that risk.

        by the way this is just one of the gubbins, there is another filter design with what looks like a little plastic tree sticking out of it, that one is a b***h, this one simply unscrews so you can drain the cartridge for less mess but it still throws lube mechs off.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you see anything worth importing here? https://store.peugeot.fr/configurable

    No, I didn't think so.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You see, the problem with the French is that they just dumped their cars on americans with no attempt to actually appeal to americans. when the Japanese came to america, they were already copying designs of american and european brands. then, Japan outright made their own copies of american cars in america. they analyzed american taste, and made their own direct competitors to those american cars. it wasn't just "the japanese F150, the japanese park avenue" they tried to replicate these vehicles in their entirety. hell, a lot of these japanese branded cars for the american market were designed and developed by americans themselves.

      >Tundra = F150/Ram/Silverado
      >Sequoia = Suburban/Expedition
      >Avalon = Buick Park Avenue/Le Sabre
      >US spec accord = Ford Taurus and was even exported back to Japan as a luxury car called "Honda Inspire"
      >Toyota FJ Cruiser = Hummer
      These cars were developed entirely with the US market in mind.

      What Poojoe and Citrus should've done, was either try to make a cheap RWD V8 Fullsize sedan, or collaborate with one of the big three to do so. maybe make a RWD platform, then barrow one of GM or Ford's V8 engines. this would've led to a much better reception of french brands in america.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The problem with the french is that they make vehicles held together with duct tape. Expensive, unreliable and unremarkable. Peugeot in specific has a really bad reputation for making absolutely garbage cars that will break down with just a few miles or have significant design flaws

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          shame, cause their race cars are pretty competitive. why do the french put so much effort into their race cars but have their road cars be an afterthought akin to a chinese copyright infringement company.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >peugeot
          >unreliable
          The 2005-2015 years may have been particularly dreadful, but otherwise they are known for being reliable, comfortable and for having superb handling. 404, 504 and 505 models conquered the safari, the desert and the outback, 405's are still being produced in iran. They will keep going in horrible conditions provided the owner doesn´t wreck it, and if ethiopians can manage it it can´t be too difficult.

          this anon

          You see, the problem with the French is that they just dumped their cars on americans with no attempt to actually appeal to americans. when the Japanese came to america, they were already copying designs of american and european brands. then, Japan outright made their own copies of american cars in america. they analyzed american taste, and made their own direct competitors to those american cars. it wasn't just "the japanese F150, the japanese park avenue" they tried to replicate these vehicles in their entirety. hell, a lot of these japanese branded cars for the american market were designed and developed by americans themselves.

          >Tundra = F150/Ram/Silverado
          >Sequoia = Suburban/Expedition
          >Avalon = Buick Park Avenue/Le Sabre
          >US spec accord = Ford Taurus and was even exported back to Japan as a luxury car called "Honda Inspire"
          >Toyota FJ Cruiser = Hummer
          These cars were developed entirely with the US market in mind.

          What Poojoe and Citrus should've done, was either try to make a cheap RWD V8 Fullsize sedan, or collaborate with one of the big three to do so. maybe make a RWD platform, then barrow one of GM or Ford's V8 engines. this would've led to a much better reception of french brands in america.

          got it right in terms of the reasons why french cars were not well received in america. It's easy to see what each car buyer values by comparing the qualities of the different brands.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        All those cars were developed decades after Toyota and Honda had already entered the US market.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't see a lot of people owning those even in my corner of yurop.
      They seem to be fairly popular leasing and rental cars, though. Maybe the bigger leasing companies have an easier time dealing with them once they start having issues?
      Parts and official service partners are pretty scarce around here, so if a Peugeot is your only car and it develops an issue, it could be out of use for a long time. I suppose a company with a fleet of them would find this less painful.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >french

    gay

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frenchies specialize in four banger diesel econoboxes.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm pretty sure Stellantis will relaunch Chrysler as a Peugeot rebrand, Opels and Vauxhall are now rebranded Peugeots too.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    cause it cost billions in compliance to companies to sell cars in the US

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because they'll have to take into consideration American regulations when designing their cars, or they'll have to fab them differently.

      Euro cars have more stringent laws to comply with compared to the US

      >peugeot
      >unreliable
      The 2005-2015 years may have been particularly dreadful, but otherwise they are known for being reliable, comfortable and for having superb handling. 404, 504 and 505 models conquered the safari, the desert and the outback, 405's are still being produced in iran. They will keep going in horrible conditions provided the owner doesn´t wreck it, and if ethiopians can manage it it can´t be too difficult.

      this anon [...] got it right in terms of the reasons why french cars were not well received in america. It's easy to see what each car buyer values by comparing the qualities of the different brands.

      >they had good cars which are not produced since 30 years ago so their modern models are reliable despite the shitshow they made ever since

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        their 07 models were a shitshow, but the 08 models were reasonably good again. Their worst reliability come from models fitted with the 1.6 they developed together with bmw, and even then there are exceptions like the rcz r.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Euro cars have more stringent laws to comply with compared to the US
        That doesn't mean they all overlap.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >cause it cost billions in compliance to companies to sell cars in the US

      Lmao

      A literal single person with money could federalize whatever car they want.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they'll have to take into consideration American regulations when designing their cars, or they'll have to fab them differently.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    POO GOAT?

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    WISH WE COULD TURN BACK TIME

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i wish america got the dacia sandero

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    pre 2000s geniuine french cars are awesome but aside from that your only missing out on cheap econoboxes

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why don't we get Peugeot or Dacia or Opal here in the US? Are we missing out on anything?
    euro here, absolutely not.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Opal
    Why didn't you buy them when they were available?
    Chevy Malibu is Opel insignia so you still have that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They still have them available (still not being bought)

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