Why is everything pigfat and huge nowadays?

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Lexus makes solid cars that are reliable, with nice interiors. They make good horsepower (not the best) but have the best long-term reliability. However, they're fat as frick and boring to drive. How hard is it to get one guy in there who knows what "pounds" mean and could show them how to do it right?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    damn FDs are so slick. cant believe that one guy got one. frick automatics

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >However, they're fat as frick and boring to drive.
    Yeah it's called sound insulation. It's a premium brand.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Actual F cars are not boring to drive at all. The average Lexus buyer is old and prioritizes luxury and comfort over weight savings. It’s mostly irrelevant as virtually all the competitors are now equally overweight, so you get monstrosities like a “luxury” sedan weighing 5000 lbs with le sporty spine breaking suspension and 23 inch wheels.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're not boring. But they're not fun.
      They're still luxury cars at the core.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My turbo falcon shitbox with huge fmic and bullbar only weighs 1700kg git gud

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    id imagine its all for safety standards. you will NEVER see a sleek new car with a low beltline again. at best, they’ll chop the roof a couple inches but they will NEVER let that beltline sit lower again.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >reliable
    >nice interiors
    >boring
    you can only pick two, especially because the first and last point are effectively a zero sum game

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >make small lean car
    >rarely anyone buys them
    >WHY ARE CARS SO FAT
    is it the car manufacturer's fault or the society's?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Hurr le market gives us everything we deserve
      have a nice day

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How is he wrong though? The people who actually buy new cars prioritize safety and comfort over PWR and manufacturers simply go where the money is.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Manufacturers realized that you didn't have to cheat on emissions standards when you could just make nothing but SUVs/crossovers. With the start of 2020, exploiting the light truck exemption as much as possible became the new meta. It had nothing to do with consumer preferences, Americans getting fatter, or any other factor outside of carmakers choosing to do what would make them the most money. The contingent of a paranoid agoraphobics who are terrified of driving anything that isn't "safe" is a lot smaller than the people who are wondering why they can't buy a Focus or Fit anymore.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >carmakers choosing to do what would make them the most money
            Yeah, no shit, sherlock. The manufacturers build the thing that will sell and sell right now, not what a bunch of "entooziasts" will buy used 15 years down the line.
            >The contingent of a paranoid agoraphobics who are terrified of driving anything that isn't "safe" is a lot smaller than the people who are wondering why they can't buy a Focus or Fit anymore.
            I'm sure you have some data to back that up.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's easy to say there's no market demand for a Focus wagon in the US when they haven't offered one in 20 years. The problem is that gullible idiots like yourself will assume that they're being completely honest when they say this is because of "consumer preferences."

            >I'm sure you have some data to back that up.
            Reliability and affordability have been cited as the biggest concerns for new car buyers. Not safety. Which cars have historically been the best at this?
            https://investors.cargurus.com/news-releases/news-release-details/cargurus-study-reveals-shifting-consumer-preferences-automotive

            Out of curiosity, why are you even cheerleading the stupid decisions that these gigantic corporations make? I hope you at least own some stock in Detroit instead of >Doing it For Free.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lexus caters more to the same market that mercedes does than BMW, which means 'sporty' is still luxury and fat

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lexus is building a sub 3000lb v8 sports car
    just buy that

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hoods too low and long, not enough fake vents either also if it doesnt have quadruple vertically stacked parallelogram shaped mufflers im not interested.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How much is that gonna be? $80k US?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        More than you can afford pal

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >$80k
        lmao. The lc500 starts at $100k, so I expect this to cost at least that much.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >sub 3000lb
      pigfat

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is this the supra replacement? if it sounds anything like the v8 in the lc500 then it will be based

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it is the RC/LC replacement and more towards going against the AMG GT and to be used in GT racing

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's the LFA replacement. It will only replace the RCF GT3 as their GT3 race car.
          The LC/RC replacement is a separate model, if it happens.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It wont happen. It will all be the same one model, but without an $80k V10 in it, I'm not sure how much longer Japanese press can get away with comparing it to the LFA.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rear visibility somehow even worse than the zupra

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >sub 3000lb v8 sports car
      lol that's a race car.
      If they ever make a street legal version it's gonna be 4000lbs+ and of course nobody will buy it because Lexus doesn't make sports car but pigfat GTs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They have to make a road version for GT3 homologation. The LFR was developed as a race car first, to replace the RCF GT3.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Safety regulations
    It takes too much effort to get a compact car to fit those regs.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mirin' that peak automotive design in the background (Nissan Cube)

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lexus make luxury grand tourers, not sports cars. Even without modern crash regulation bullshit their cars would still be pigfat.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RCF is suppose to be their sporty coupe. They made a track edition for a reason that bragged about a 100 something pounds weight savings and wing. LC500 is their GT car with a larger 21 gal tank. That car is also like 4200 lbs so they didn’t give a frick about performance outside of their V8 engine.
      I still like the RCF tho too bad they retain value in the used market

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        all of the modern lexus V8s retain their value annoyingly well. GSF is very expensive in the used market as well

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