Why is it so hard to make vehicles theft-proof?

Why is it so hard to make vehicles theft-proof? You'd think with new technology it would be harder to steal cars but thefts are only going up every year.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hear that teslas are impossible to steal. When we have always-on vehicles that connect to the internet, thefts will dissapear.
    Lack of privacy and freedom is the only price to pay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing is impossible to steal, if someone wants the car they're going to get it, it's just about making other cars less of a pain in the ass to steal.
      If someone wants a tesla, they'll just get a HIAB and lift the entire vehicle, put on a wideband GPS scrambler and take it inside a building with no cell reception to brute force past the software locks

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can just get a cellphone app,run it while your friend shows off his Tesla to you. then you can track his car and borrow your friends Tesla whenever you want

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yea frick that, a bunch of tesla engineers are already dead from "accidents"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he thinks being online will make theft stop
      L O L
      O
      L

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you wouldn't download a car

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is giving up all our dignity to state and corporation really more palatable than just gatekeeping nogs and hispanics from our communities? Is it really?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >2035
      >your goverment sanction tesla drives back to the manufacture from failed payment
      >because you had to buy it with dogecoin and it dropped 12% in value the hour before the payment was due
      >on the way back to the manufacture it searches for homeless people to perform legal and medicaly aporved murder to reduce carbon credits for tesla
      >because homeless are considered mentally ill and the best therapy is death
      >behind your tesla is the goverment approved AI organ harvester EV collecting the corpses
      >the constant streams of hit and runs causes the battery to overheat and it explodes in a gigantic fireball
      >which triggers a chain reaction with the other free range EVs exploding
      >the fires melt the road and burn the freshly harvested corpses to a crisp
      >you get fined 800k usdcoin in damages by the state for damages to the road
      >get fined 600k by the medical insurance company for the low quality volume of organs
      >you can't afford it
      >your smart home opens all windows and doors
      >so the AI Amazon drones can come in and stun you with a tazer
      >the drones launch harpoons in your malnourished body and fly you to the basedlant plants
      Is this the future you want?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        seems plausible

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s easier to destroy than build. Adage as old as time. It’s why there’s a tech race between tech companies and hackers. Tech builds new security measures, hackers crack them. Before that it was lock pickers vs smiths.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    anyone can buy a tow truck/trailer and winch so even a vehicle with a locked driveline can be stolen

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's easy to steal a car with a tow truck, winch, etc. you don't even have to get inside of it. just like it's easy to steal a pencil or any inanimate object that isn't secured to the ground.
    if we're talking about getting inside and starting the car, that's a different story. if you have the right scan tool and extra keys, you can program a new key into that car so that you can drive it. if the car is old enough to have transponder keys but not new enough to have a billion computers coded with the VIN, you can swap an ecu into the car that you have the paired key to, pull out the ignition switch, and hold the transponder up to the ring while you turn it to start the car, bypassing the lock tumbler.
    There's no good way to keep a vehicle's starting system reliable, available offline, and programmable whilst having top-notch security.
    If you could only start it from your phone, you would be stranded if you drove somewhere with no cell service, or if your phone just died.
    If you couldn't program keys into it, your local locksmith wouldn't be able to help you replace the key.
    If you couldn't swap ECU's, it would be impossible to fix a car that was broken because of an ECU failure, without replacing all of the other modules that came out of the same vehicle the ECU came out of.
    At the end of the day, it's an object on four wheels that was designed to move. If someone wants to move it, they'll find a way.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you couldn't program keys into it, your local locksmith wouldn't be able to help you replace the key.
      Not my problem. Don't lose your keys. Treat your valuables with respect.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > transponder keys but not new enough to have a billion computers coded with the VIN, you can swap an ecu into the car that you have the paired key to, pull out the ignition switch, and hold the transponder up to the ring while you turn it to start the car
      Even my 22 years old Opel shitbox can't be stolen like that
      You would need to replace the ECU, BCM, Instrument cluster and transponder receiver all at once
      Programming a new key is easy as frick tho
      The only real way is to make it hard to steal with hidden custom shit, no thief is going to waste half an hour trying to troubleshoot a car that won't start unless he really, really wants it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Not keeping your car key or car spare key in secure cabinet in your bedroom, alternatively homework room when you dont need it.
      >Not getting a new spare key if you permanently lose one key.
      Lol idiots.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you know what's much easier? killinng the thief

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In my country, it has become so hard to steal a car that criminals just break in and murder you to get the keys instead. Much easier.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    technology makes it easier. with keyfobs you only need a vin and you can program a bootleg keyfob that you can walk up to the car and steal it with

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody would take insurance if cars could not be stolen and since you buy a new car after insurance the car companies are fine with it.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    99% of car thieves are late teens/early 20's.
    Pic related is theft proof.
    They dont understand how either one works.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      put it in neutral and winch it onto a flatbed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They just force it, and wreck it out of spite

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ~~*keyless*~~ shit is to blame
    Also people are moronic and don't install kill switches

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP, why did you use a picture of a man wearing a ski mask getting into his car? It's not a good idea to stereotype an honest working man. He might just feel a little cold today.

    Here is a more appropriate picture.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I looked up car theft on google and all pics were white men.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        CSI, and law & order usually change the bad guys to white men when the actual story its based on had POC doing the crimes IRL

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          whites always stealing opportunities from blacks baka

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Here is a more appropriate picture.
      Black man is probably a locksmith helping someone with a lockout.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >probably a locksmith helping someone with a lockout
        Depends on the state as 15 states and some major city/county areas have business license restrictions as well as criminal background checks required. My state prohibits a felon from being a locksmith. The locksmith license permit would be denied. So if he was a "locksmith", that would be illegal or the business license they show you is a fake.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is it so hard to make vehicles theft-proof?
    Because car owners carry car keys or fobs on them. Thieves travel thru a neighborhood or continuously walk through a shopping district looking for people who just got out of a target car or are about to enter a targeted car.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Three young church going astronauts with their pants down to their knees, who could have guessed?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He relaxed...

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >He relaxed...
        What if you'are in your nice suburban neighborhood and they come out of nowhere.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is it so hard to make vehicles theft-proof?
    Because there is a huge number of Repeat Offenders in the USA. There are not a lot of repeat offenders socialist countries like China and North Korea.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You'd think with new technology it would be harder to steal cars
    The car thugs just loiter at gas stations waiting for you to pull up. If your car sucks, they just rob you and take off. If you have a car they want to use, they will take your fob and drive off.

    It's pretty casual nowadays. An everyday occurrence.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Non-whites really love Toyotas

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >runs back over to him after getting slammed to the pavement
      >immediately starts backpedaling as he nonchalantly walks forward
      What was she expecting?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        some people have the spatial awareness of a bug grub or newly born child. shit doesn't exist or isn't possibly relevant to their safety until it's right in their face, even with all that foreboding pacing
        tl;dr never relax and check your 6

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You'd think with new technology it would be harder to steal cars
    It can be easy. But many people choose not to pay for the subscription service. For example, cars from General Motors can subscribe to OnStar. If your car is stolen, call the tollfree number or run over to another GM car and press its OnStar button on the mirror. You identify yourself and the code to stop your car is issued.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      post more

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >there could be Black folk around here

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    technology just makes them easier to steal

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >stock image of white guy stealing a car

    I searched for car thieves on Google and every single one of them was white. We really shouldn't let those people stay in the country they're a menace.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because preventing thefts is racist.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Korean cars exist.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Black folk record themselves stealing car with Chinese Black person app, now others Black folk have how to vid and Korean Black person cars fault?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was legitimately close to taking the Camaropill until I read about how laughably easy they are to steal. It's a shame.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    was thinking of rigging up some sharp objects to put on the handles to cut off the fingers of would be thieves. too bad we didn't have stuff like this, crooks deserve death.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMtqRir7dco

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >crooks deserve death.
      I saw video of hellcat being stolen from some guys driveway in broad fricken daylight. Just confidently drove off with it like it was his.
      Its so infuriating how people feel so confident in never working an honest day in their lives and just stealing from others.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Rule one of being dodgy, don't look dodgy.

        This is mine so f* you is a skill.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Best solution would be to globally ban keyless entry and keyless ignition system. Make it federally mandatory for cars to have proper key ignition system with immobilizers, metallic key with immobilizer keyfob just like cars used to have in years 2001-2008.Then also make it mandatory for the OBD port to be behind a locked cover. No wireless access to car ECU.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing can be prevented from being stolen, but you can prevent thieves from repeating their crimes.

    However, that would require having a white populace that wasn't trying to kill itself out of an insane feeling of guilt that they shouldn't have.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Even if you have GPS tracking on your car that only helps if the police in your area are useful, and not some combination of incompetent and/or corrupt. There was a case in Canada earlier this year where a guy had a truck stolen, had a tracker in the truck, gave the police the info showing the truck was located at the port of Montreal, and the Canadian police did jack shit. Link below is a news report on it.

    https://youtu.be/GUNZZWq1dXM?si=SKTmarBT30mrAr5v

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Technology is bypassable.

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