with the potential defeat of CAFE regulations, will we be blessed with smaller, lighter vehicles with higher displacement engines again or are we doom...

with the potential defeat of CAFE regulations, will we be blessed with smaller, lighter vehicles with higher displacement engines again or are we doomed to the supersized slop suvs and suvs with beds

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want a big car that make me look rich

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      on reflection, paul verhoven might have been a commie

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    people genuinely want SUVs and trucks. this is not a passing trend. even if the anime maid cafe is abolished, and all the hot underage e-girls instead of are killed, people will still want SUVs and Trucks. even in countries where cafe isn't a thing, trucks and SUVs are typically the best selling vehicle type.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      both suvs and trucks can be made within smaller dimensions

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        neither have ever outsold their larger counterparts.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the maverick is currently outselling all midsized trucks by a large margin
          >verification not required

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That’s cause people just but the full-size

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maverick does everything a midsized truck does at a 2/3rds the price. The only thing it can't do is serious towing, which people buy halftons for anyway. The midsize truck usecase is very narrow, do I need something that can tow a little more than a Maverick but not as much as a halfton? How many people fall into that window? Probably not too many.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            perfect, we can axe the midsize section altogether and make even smaller and cheaper options. single cab manual transmission with a spartan interior to reduce costs for people who just needs a bed that moves. and maybe even bring back the crown vic for a modern barge that can tow.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            at that point you're competing with the used market. no one's going to buy a stripped down third world vehicle for over 10k, when you can get a used truck that's every bit as much of a bed that moves for less and actually be comfortable to ride around in.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            stripped down vehicle with 0 miles vs rusted out work truck with 150k+ miles. these would sell like crazy here in the US as a secondary vehicle.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Shitsubishi thought the same with the mirage. and it didn't happen. not hard to find a 10+ year old truck that will last you another 10+ years.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty bad take. I’d rather be in a 100k miles truck than some gussed up golf cart.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty bad take. I'd rather take a 0 mile truck for auxillary use then a decade old truck.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if toyota gays are to be believed when they say toyotas last forever and can survive warfare and muh staged top gear stronkest in the world, then there is zero difference between a 200k mile 10+ year old toyota truck and a brand new one.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ive never owned a toyota/dont care about car mythology, i just dont want to have to use my wagon for carpentry or hauling gardening supplies and would happily pay for a new small truck with no frills that i can build onto and use for inconsistent contracting gigs.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Japs can’t make trucks and I for sure don’t trust some cheap stripped out that is designed to be shitty.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >competing with the used market is LE BAD

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            its definitely not bad for us, its bad for toyota who won't move a lot of these to justify bringing them over. it doesn't make business sense for toyota, so they themselves won't do it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            fleet sales don't compete with used market.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            fleet buyers want comfortable vehicles with modern amenities as well. see: ancient chevy express vs any modern van.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no one's going to buy a stripped down third world vehicle for over 10k

            You're a moron

            The lack of bare bones simple utilitarian trucks is because of regulation not lack of need

            A $15k brand new Toyota like this would absolutely be a hit. People pay more than twice that for shitty side by sides.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >people would totally spend 15k on a stripped down shitbox over a used truck that is better in every way
            no they wouldn't. just like they didn't with the mirage.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nta, but the difference is people like trucks but nobody likes cuckmobiles like the Mirage.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            People who buy trucks are going to have the exact same image of the cuckmobile. They already look down on small trucks generally.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You used to be able to get a new Colorado for $18k or a new Ram 1500 for $22k. Nobody bought those trims.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You can buy them with aircon, reverse camera, infotainment, 4WD, and a bunch of other options.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            they won't be 15k anymore.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The only thing it can't do is serious towing
            Well, that and fit more than like 3 acorns in the bed

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >midsized
            Because they are all so pigfat and pricey there's no point. Is there a single "midsize" you can buy new in the US for under $30k and/or less than 2 tons curb weight?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            while i would love to see the ranger come back in proper form, and not in the moronic state that mentions, it will not happen without an automaker setting the precedent. The IMV would be a perfect testing of the waters though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        even larger hatchbacks sell better than smaller ones, at least in the us

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          subarus best selling car is the crosstrek, which is their smallest hatch (impreza) with a lift kit.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nice fart bro

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Blessed vin

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          thats because the STATION WAGON IS THE NATURAL AMERICAN CAR.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >compares a light duty beater to a heavy duty hauler
        Anyways they really haven't changed in size, I think there is visual trickery because an average 70s F150 is still huge.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        the increase in truck size corelates with the decrease in usa avg genital size and the decrease in fertility. the frickhuge american pickup is cope for tiny wieners shooting blanks

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          why does 90% of the big dick porn come out of america.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            because americans live vicariously through their media. the talent comes from elsewhere, usually canada, like hollywood

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            sounds like dicklet cope.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Many Euro "SUV"s are basically just slightly taller hatchbacks. Almost nobody here buys trucks except as work/utility vehicles as they're impossible to park and have 10x the tax if used as a passenger vehicle.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Probably because the average european "hatchback" has gotten much bigger than they used to be in the 90s, and trucks are not taxed any differently than any other vehicle. in fact, they're actually exempt from some taxes when imported, which is why Rams are one of the most imported grey market cars in europe, with thousands being grey market imports per year. none of them are being used as work vehicles. a Ford Ranger isn't much larger than a 5 series, so if you can park a 5 series, which most of europe seems to be capable of doing, you can park a ranger.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      grim.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >people genuinely want SUVs and trucks
      >what is "demand creation" and why does so much money get poured into it?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>what is "demand creation"
        cope for schizos.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Engineering of Consent
        its spooky

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          You're thinking of "manufacturing constent" I think.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      extremely grim. every country has become America.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe we can get even bigger light trucks? Defeating things like EGR and DEF will go a long way to creating a better vehicle for people.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    slop since the bailed out makers are greedy
    eventually some Viet or China death on wheels will take that market

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ANCAP and NTSA will likely prevent the creation of any small cars.
    also market demand since every one be overweight now, so need larger seats and more powerful engines.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    given that the same communist trannies seething about chevron being overturned are also the ones who want trucks to be banned, it will be pretty delicious if the ruling ushers in a natural resurgence of small cars

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    but normoids want oversized gaymobiles because for the normie brain its a status symbol

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody wants or buys compact trucks outside of places where regulations make everything else unaffordable.

    Friendly reminder small cars are for europoors and third world peasants. That's what they were invented for, and that's what leftists psyopped you into "wanting" so as to prime you for the eventual abolishment of all cars. You are not 'based and redpilled' for spouting lefty rhetoric from 40 years ago. A 1974 Impala is bigger than all but the absolute largest versions of a modern fullsize pickup (dually, crew cab, long bed)

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand why you idiots thing the Chevron Deference cancellation is going to somehow remove all the pollution laws and requirements.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      because the cheveron deference cancellation HAS removed all YOUR MOM"S pollution laws and requirements; and let me bareback her ass last night. then we did ATM, it was great.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >HAS rempoved
        Nothing about Chevron says laws that have been enacted are now null and void, and chevron was about being able to bypass a judge ruling.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          it has made it marginally more difficult for the federal agencies to hand out penalties because it now has to go thru a legal process instead of the federal agency acting as defacto judge jury and executioner in their assigned field. so while it doesn't remove any of the laws on the books it makes them all vulnerable to a court's decision. they also now run the risk of losing power if the accused can prove something is unconstitutional.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >with the potential defeat of CAFE regulations

    elaborate on that

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