>AWD
>Hybrid
>4 variations
>Sedan
>Wagon
>Hatch
>Crossover
Sedan looks the best, crossover and hatch look terrible
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>AWD
>Hybrid
>4 variations
>Sedan
>Wagon
>Hatch
>Crossover
Sedan looks the best, crossover and hatch look terrible
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Looks like a asiaticshit version of the rav4
The estate isn't bad but it's not wagonny enough
why does the estate look like a dumb crossover instead of a sick wagon?
Wagon bros we're coming home.
This actually looks like it might be worth a buy a few years down the line if there's an option to lower it down to sedan height. Maybe they'll fix their production frickups by then too.
Someone photoshop it to be lowered to actual wagon height
>YOU WANN DRIVE CAWW?
Found some butt shots.
>We want to give the impression of having a clamshell trunk like Lucid without actually having one
I love brown paint and I especially love two tone. This thing looks great to me, even for a cuckover.
Here is the last one.
>2.5 NA or 2.4 turbo, both hybrid
The proportions for the crossover remind me of a scaled up subcompact sedan.
Why the frick did they have to lift the wagon and hatch???
99% sure it'll be the e-four system with a weak rear motor and no connection to the engine.
Urusbros… did we get too wienery
I kinda like it
It does somewhat look like a knock-off Urus
Lexus GS?
>new sedan
>no wagon option
dropped
It literally says in the OP there is a wagon variant you moron.
>wagon
>no wood panel option
Into the trash it goes
What's wrong with hatch?
Looks great I want it.
I'm absolutely shocked that Toyota managed to design a car that actually looks good and not like some gaudy bulbous monstrosity.
>Proportions are so fricked, all of them look like a crossover
Seems that Toyota JP already took down the previous gen from their site.
Also the front looks liek ass; your gen front end is much prettier.
i thought crown were for boring japanese businessmen
do they really drive around this bmw-tier sniffer?
>They all look like a crossover because only the sedan is actually sedan-height
Fricking elevens
Im living over there trying to be an honorary 11 but it aint it.
Frick me what an ugly POS this is where the crown peaked
>Black person wheels and Black person stance
frick off
You're a Black person wheel with Black person stance
goddamn an s130. there's something about those inner headlights (foglamps?) that just has such an old school cool vibe to it. Did you buy this off carfromjapan a few months back? Only asking because I saw a white v8 crown posted there and it was gone after about a week.
Also are you going to molest it or keep it stock exterior, mods interior route?
oh wait is
your first pic...damn. can't say im a fan of lowering cars but it's not my car at the end of the day. Definitely agree about the s130 being peak crown.
It's not lowered that's how low the factory air suspension can go. I haven't owned it for several years now.
oh wow, forgot about the TEMS thingy. why'd you sell it? got bored?
Air suspension shenanigans. Avoid any air susp toyota unless you have access to an expert.
sheeesh air suspension is literally just a balloon how hard can it be
DIS HWYITE BOI GOT A DA PASS?
no captcha be straight bussin yo
>Did you buy this off carfromjapan a few months back?
Funny you should ask that. I didn't get the crown from there but 5 mins after you posted this I got the long awaited email from carfromjapan with the shipping and ETA date of my next car.
damn. i was contemplating buying a crown wagon from there, but otherwise i just window shop. anything i should know buying off that site?
Nah it was pretty straightforward. Make sure your bank will let you wire large sums overseas using SWIFT. The customer support lady speaks english and she will phone you up if you're having dramas. Maybe familiarize yourself with jap car grading scales
nice. i'd imagine they'd get a healthily sized commission but that's the price of decent service i guess.
I'm familiar with the nip grading scales but I dunno how to read those auction sheets where they mark down imperfections or dents etc. am looking through guides on it now though.
at the risk of sounding like a weeb it seems like they don't have as many scummy sellers that try to hide shit like a blown head gasket or rust etc. but i don't know any better.
Is it fwd-based AWD?
Also the hatch and even crossover look better than the wagon.
I really hate how the trunk has what looks like a fake window on it because for some reason even sedans have to look like liftbacks
Interior with obligatory tablet and digital IP.
I wonder what the red button in the passenger footwell does
aside from Mazda, yep
>red button
It looks like a road flare.
All Mazda needs is a performance car or two to seal their position as the new best Jap carmaker. I understand they are trying to go up-market now, but they can try what Toyota did with Scion and just sell it under a different brand.
I really just want something to rival the Si and GTI man
Domestically, Mazda already is the best auto maker, as far as I'm concerned. The value you get on their cars is insane, compared to other brands.
it's a road flare
What the frick is up with the cheap fricking interior? Previous Crowns had Lexus-esque interiors.
>fake ass looking woodgrain
>bulbous bloated buttons everywhere
>still uses 90s plastic
man what are you talking about, this looks like dated as frick
So, basically a cheaper version of the Mirai interior and panel?
Based. While we're at it, bring the goddamn Alphard as well.
They all look like shit. Japs have really lost the race to the Koreans haven't they.
It's over
How is it different from that Camry?
don't know where these artistic render pics came from but this is what it actually looks like
aizen lookin ass car
>it's just a facelift Camry
>Hybrid
please be based on the mirai hydrogen fuel cell please be based on the mirai hydrogen fuel cell please be based on the mirai hydrogen fuel cell please be based on the mirai hydrogen fuel cell please be based on the mirai hydrogen fuel cell
I WANT PURE H20 CUMMING OUTTA MY PIPES
OH NO
>hydrogen
hydrogen is a terrible fuel and the only reason anyone even slightly considered it was because lithium-ion batteries hadn't been invented yet
>hey let's spend like 1.5kw of electricity to crack 1kwh of hydrogen, meaning we start the process at a loss
>then we have to compress it, taking even more electricity
>then we have to pump the compressed liquid along pipelines that don't exist, requiring us to build them, which involves smelting, forming, and welding an unbelievable amount of high-strength steel, which requires an absolutely astonishing amount of energy
>and then put the stuff on hydrogen tanker trucks that don't exist and need to be built to take to hydrogen stations that don't exist and need to be built
>in order to fuel hydrogen cars which need a huge heavy reinforced hydrogen tank that is necessary both to stop the tiny hydrogen molecules from leaking through the metal, and to not have the car turn into a bomb if it gets rear ended
>so they can run that hydrogen through an onboard fuel cell to power an electric motor, for a final efficiency of like 5% (after we spend all the energy builting the infrastructure)
OR
>hook up a charging station to the pre-existing grid and let people charge their electric cars with electricity
it only made sense in the 90s, when car batteries were shit
Lot more hydrogen out there than lithium.
>Lot more hydrogen out there than lithium.
Sure, it's one of the most abundant elements in the universe. But it's a shitty battery. Even before you get into building a nationwide hydrogen infrastructure, you put in a lot more electricity in than you get out.
It kind of made sense in the 90s when you had to charge a 900-lb NiMH battery for 12 hours to get 30 miles of range, and the battery would start losing after a few hundred cycles
>anon, if you are using solar/wind to get hydrogen then the inefficiency is a moot point. The electrical grid is trash and cant handle millions of electric cars so you'd have to spend that money on infrastructure anyways.
Anon, if you're going to build all that solar and wind, you could just use it to charge EVs.
It's easier to add solar and wind to the existing grid than to build gigantic hydrogen cracking plants, with compressing/chilling, plus thousands of miles of high-pressure hydrogen pipes, plus pumping stations for those pipes, plus hydrogen tanker trucks, plus hydrogen tanks plus pumps at gas stations, so you can run hydrogen through a fuel cell to power an electric car
Hydrogen is a battery and it's a really shitty one, even before you think of the absolutely huge amount of energy we'd have to spend building the infrastructure to use that shitty battery
>Anon, if you're going to build all that solar and wind, you could just use it to charge EVs.
You do realize you are going to have to pump out 10s of millions of charging stations right? Like every fricking parking space will need one. Not to mention expand the number of power plants and install all the infrastructure for all those new plants and chargers. That is no less of an issue than building a few hydrogen plants and putting some pipes in the ground. Hydrogen trucks are already in production, it would just need to be scaled up.
Hydrogen may be inefficient, but in terms of being closest to the convenience of oil, hydrogen wins.
>You do realize you are going to have to pump out 10s of millions of charging stations right?
Sure, that's easy. It's an electric charger, they're not particularly hard or expensive to make. Compare to a high-pressure H pump.
>Like every fricking parking space will need one
No, Anon.
> Not to mention expand the number of power plants and install all the infrastructure for all those new plants and chargers
Yes. But you'd need to build all of that, plus even more if you were going to try to turn electricity into hydrogen and then compress the hydrogen into liquid and then pump the hydrogen to hydrogen stations where you've torn up the place to install hydrogen storage and then fill hydrogen trucks which then have to transport the hydrogen to gas stations that have also been torn up to install hydrogen tanks and pumps in order for people to pump it into their cars to turn back into electricity.
>a few hydrogen plants and putting some pipes in the ground.
lmao have you seen road workers upgrading a 5-foot section of sewer? Imagine that with thousands of miles of thick steel pipe, which has to resist massive pressure, minimize H leakage through the metal, survive earthquakes etc. And that's not even getting into the electricity cost to smelt the steel and form it and weld it into pipe and then to transport and assemble and weld together the pipe. Or, you could not do any of that and just plug in chargers, so people can charge their electric car with electricity
>>Like every fricking parking space will need one
>No, Anon.
Yeah you have fun with that. Imagine what it would be like if EVERYONE drove and EV.
>pipes
The pipes would be for water, not hydrogen. You transport the hydrogen by truck, You know, like how you put oil in the pipeline to the refinery then put the gasoline in the trucks. You dont put hydrogen gas in pipelines similar to how you dont put gasoline in pipelines.
>Yes. But you'd need to build all of that, plus even more if you were going to try to turn electricity into hydrogen and then compress the hydrogen into liquid and then pump the hydrogen to hydrogen stations where you've torn up the place to install hydrogen storage and then fill hydrogen trucks which then have to transport the hydrogen to gas stations that have also been torn up to install hydrogen tanks and pumps in order for people to pump it into their cars to turn back into electricity.
This is just an argument about turning electricity into hydrogen and back to electricity and again its a moot point if that energy is coming from renewable sources.
Better start up a company that manufactures wires, poles, switchgear, transformers, cermaic standoff, and has a trade school attached to it to make money of student loans needed for all the linesman needed. It's really just that easy. Electricity is pretty much magic. All you have to do is buy a charger from Amazon prime and suddenly there will be electricity coming out of it.
Using amazon prime also avoids inconveient geopolitical consideratsions like war and eco-communists shuttding down the energy sector.
Tbf hydrogen vehicles still require a scrubber that uses rare metals like platinum or palladium
anon, if you are using solar/wind to get hydrogen then the inefficiency is a moot point. The electrical grid is trash and cant handle millions of electric cars so you'd have to spend that money on infrastructure anyways. In terms of refilling time, most people probably would rather have a couple minute hydrogen refill over an 30-60 minute wait while recharging, that if a charger is available.
EV is a fricking meme.
Lithium was chosen by politicians not engineers. They are heavy, degrade, slow to charge
post the estate ass
my body is ready
So this is now a new sub brand or something? Now everyone wants the jdm crown emblem.
>awd
That can mean a lot of things
What is the point of this car?
Good question. Why on earth wouldn't the Japanese just get a Lexus instead?
Because Lexus is more expensive.
pretty sure the anon you replied to was shitposting. Nips always keep the good shit for themselves. Toyota celsior which was the jdm ls400 had a few more whizbang gizmos than foreign markets
A bro lifted avalon, wooooooooooooooooow. 100% chance the US will never get the wagon. Frick toyota. Bring your fricking Hiace to the states you fricking slant eyed fricks.
Would love to have a 4cyl diesel hiace with manual trans sticking out of dash.
Any word on the GR GTE concept?
They kind of look alike.
Yay. More appliances from Toyota.
Least boring modern car brand
>2 of their modern sporty cars are just rebadges from other manufactureres
>1 is a souped up yaris 3 cylinder which incoorparates subaru tech
Yeah what an exciting car brand. Even mercedes and vw are more exciting than toyoder
>2023 Toyota Crown revealed
all i see is different version of camry...why asians make such boring and shit looking cars ?
Camry means crown in Japanese
I wonder if they will fix their shitty media console. I use a flashdrive to play music, and the software on most newer toyota models is absolutely horrible when it comes to playback from usb.
We should have gotten this version, no one will buy that lifted sedan
Sedans don't sell in the USA
Uhhh bros? Is this some sort of out of season April Fool’s joke? This looks like some sort of Chinese Corolla ripoff. Where the frick is the Crown?
sedan is based and is the return of the GS
pray we get it in the US
They should just replace the ES with this, people would buy into the name
Frick I want it if it has like a 50mile ev only range.
No gonna lie, if it ends up with that true Japanese Toyota reliability, I'd buy one.
Unfortunately it's probably gonna have a massive markup (between the dealers and the typical Toyota tax) on it unless the car market absolutely craters by the time these hit the US shores.
i feel like the toyota reliability meme only applies to 80s-early 00s toyotas. ever since then it feels like they've just been coasting along on their reputation.
They're still good cars, but there's something about late model toyotas where you can just feel that something is different, compared to 80s-00s models.
the wheels on the sedan look sick