How should Porsche deal with this car that keeps killing it's driver when you step away from the gas?
It's kind of shitty for these companies that build these cars with very expensive bleeding edge components and manufacturing and then lose money because nobody buys them because it is 15 years too early for Boomers to use them as a money making strategy. Imagine being Porsche giving a MSRP of 448k to the Carrera GT and then 20 years later the same car comes for some servicing but now the car is worth 1.8 million dollars. Just giving some context for you to take into consideration before coming up with a solution to the Carrera GT problem.
speak english
Here comes the grammar Nazi. What's wrong with my English?
None of it makes sense, what's the point you're trying to make?
Where doesn't make sense?
You're all over the place in your post, what are you trying to get at in your message?
You are asking me to re-write my post as if I didn't do just that. Where is the problem? What is the sentence that is badly worded?
>what the frick are you asking
>proceeds to answer
It seems you understood me just fine but in any case, where is the offending sentence?
>daily
Carrera GT is not meant to be a grocery shopping car to be driven at under 60mph. It is meant to be a track weapon driven at the limit of physics.
>. It is meant to be a track weapon driven at the limit of physics.
are you 12 or something ?
Why is it street legal then?
What the frick are you asking?
> this car that keeps killing it's driver when you step away from the gas?
Theres like one fatal accident with this car
> and then lose money because nobody buys them
What the frick are you on about, the CGT is highly sought after
sorry but if Doug demuro can daily this car, it isn't dangerous
shitty tires were the reason these crashes happen
I translated this post:
>How should Porsche deal with the fact that after building a cutting edge car and having to sell them for a loss because nobody wants them at launch, they suddenly shoot up in value that far exceeds their initial MSRP once old people have locked them in their sheds for 20 years?
I still dont understand why this is a problem
>i dont understand why a car killing it's driver is a problem
t.porsche lawyer
I move to dismiss, the plaintiff can barely speak english and clearly escaped a mental institution
Dismissal accepted, OP is moronic
I don't either. Every halo car is a calculated loss. And every meme classic becomes unreasonably expensive and over hyped after 15 years, not that anybody buys for those prices anyway. Look at the original NSX for example
It's been out of production for 20 years now, it's no longer Porsche's problem
so because it's been 20 years it suddenly not Porsche problem?
Yes? What do you want them to do? It's not like they could make a refresh/update with revised suspension as if the car was still in production
Volkswagen doesn't do recalls chud
Why is it when europeans build shitty handling cars its "bad ass" but when americans do it its just not being able to turn?
On Porsche's defense, they built Carrera GT at the specifications of their customers. Americans just build trash cars.
so their customers wanted a trash car?
Well no. They wanted a "badass car" as you put it. No safety = bad ass. Boomer mentality. The problem is they sell these death machines to unsuspecting people.
shit handling is a form of no safety, and trash vehicle design.
>shit handling is a form of no safety
Lol at bus rider takes: The Carrera GT has "shit handling"
Thanks for the worthless imput
>the carrera GT has attributes associated with shit handling american cars
>but its not shit handling because... Porsche did it on purpose?
this goes back to my original question.
also i have a car, so stop deflecting.
>the carrera GT has attributes associated with shit handling american cars
Literally no one not moronic has ever thought or said this
morons are confusing hard to drive with bad handling
but shit handling vehicles are inherently hard to drive. as the other anon said...
>it just loses grip
what kind of piece of shit does this? this isn't excusable on a mustang so why a """state of the art""" supah caru.
>>it just loses grip
>what kind of piece of shit does this?
This is what I'm talking about. Bus riders utterly mystified by a high hp car losing grip in its drive wheels. Like handling fundamentals are a mystery to them they misread as something else.
It happens in LITERALLY every performance car you can think of
so the problem with the Carrera GT is downforce? Could Porsche fix the car going haywire with more downforce? Did you just solved the Carrera Gt problem?
It's transmission and downforce. You can't fix it without a bunch of ugly wings and to drive it faster than it can normally go in turns. It's not designed to race.
You need to go so very fast for a behemoth like that to get downforce, and it would never get there before it falls off the road.
>losing grip and crashing is just handling fundamental bro!
can you remember how many times lewis hamilton's F1 car just lost grip and he did an epic drift around Spa? how many nascar style pileups does F1 have from cars just losing grip?
why are these handling characteristics that have been so long associated with trash vehicle design on muscle cars suddenly a feature?
>why are these handling characteristics that have been so long associated with trash vehicle design on muscle cars suddenly a feature?
Your stupidity is beyond comprehension.
You might as well be asking why the car goes into a wall when you steer it into the wall if its a good car
your steering false equivalency implies that this shit handling is the driver's fault. if its "just losing grip" then its clearly the car's problem. not all powerful cars make you feel "scared" to be in them. just the highly unstable shitboxes, do.
pic related. a well engineered powerful vehicle from Japan.
>implies that this shit handling is the driver's fault.
>pic related. a well engineered powerful vehicle from Japan.
Nürburgring lap times:
Porsche Carrera GT 7:28.71
Honda NSX (Mk II) 7:36.00
The 20 year old "bad handling" (lol) prime supercar from Porsche outhandles your "good handling" example
I don't know how much more I can high light how you literally don't know shit about cars or car handling. You are incredibly stupid.
>it may handle like shit and crash but it has fast lap times
does this mean muscle cars actually handle better than things like Lotus? cause it has faster lap times.
I'd like to see a second lap and it's numbers on these two lmao
On that track yeah, numbers don't lie
What doe that have to do with morons confusing a good handling car being pushed past the limit with being inherently bad handling?
don't you think a """state of the art""" super car should have a higher limit than "just lose grip"?
How about a track with more turns?
Tell the coping Carrera GT gay that.
A Carrera GT MSRP was 448k in 2004, that is 740k today according to US inflation calculators and we know the official 65% inflation number by the US government is half of what we see out irl.
The NSX is made in the US, just like the Type R is made in UK. Japan makes jack.
That's because it's better at straights, just like the NSX I and the Tesstarossa.
>The NSX is made in the US
designed by japs. its a weeb mobile through and through.
and it flopped so hard.
>jannies deleting images
???
The car just loses grip when you step off the gas like the og Porsche 911 Turbo but this time Porsche was asked to built the car this way. The problem is people are selling Carrera GT's to people who don't know any better. Look at these seasoned Nurburgring amateur driver scared shitless after being in a Carrera GT with new tires from two weeks ago. He says he doesn't want to do it again as in he doesn't want to be in a Carrera GT ever again.
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>The car just loses grip
mustangs do this too. and people say its because they don't handle well. if your car is so unstable that it scares you its probably not a very good handling vehicle.
but again, this is somehow laudable because the car is expensive and european and has a spoopy lore around it.
Older Mustangs with open differentials that don't have traction control do. Newer Mustangs have LSDs and traction control.
Why do Porsche still makes these cars use 20 year old compound technology? A newer compound could potentially fix the car.
>why does a 20 year old car use 20 year old technology
hmm, beats me
I always thought it was a bit funny when motoring journalists had to drive behind a pace car on a wide track when they got to “test drive” it in 2003 and they weren’t allowed to floor it. But Porsche knew what they had built.
And it begs the question: Why not test drive and buy the pace car then instead if Porsche already knew that’s what a random petrolhead actually could handle on a track?
>Americans just build trash cars.
And your country doesn't make cars at all, Muhammad. Simping for European cars won't make you any less brown and nor will it make Europeans detest you any less.
Bruised ego? I didn't say anything nobody has ever said. It is a well known fact Americans build trash cars.
but why do we glorified european manufacturers when they do it?
They were asked to build it that way. Americans just build bad cars.
>europe was asked to built trash cars
>Americans build trash c-ACKK
always warms my heart when people post my old meme image.
>skill issue
moron
Porsche shills out in full force ITT kek
this, holy shit. if this thing had a chrysler badge they wouldn't shit the frick up about how it can turn.
>shilling for a 7 figure car that won't even bring profit to the manufacturer
>on DA at that
You better believe we are working as hard as possible to ensure DA still likes a limited-run supercar that we produced 20 years ago
>limited-run supercar that we produced 20 years ago
You aren't boomer multi-millionaires. Porsche never intended you shills to own them and yet here you are still simping for them. They'd kick your smelly poorgay ass out of the dealership the moment they caught sight of one of your kind in their showroom. Make no mistake, you aren't their target clientele. They'd sooner torch a Porsche than have to experience embarrassment from the public seeing one of you subhumans in their car degrading their precious brand image.
Yurocucks loooove doing this. You watch F1 religiously yet will never drive one. Americhads watch stock car racing and can afford to buy and do drive those cars.
I have no fricking clue what you’re trying to get at
Good post, but this
>Americhads watch stock car racing and can afford to buy and do drive those cars.
is mostly wrong, they are "stock" only in the name which is misleading.
If EVs are so good why they have to be government mandated?
VAG and by proxy Porsche is government mandated by the german government. its no wonder the Carrera GT handles so shitty. it might as well be built by the UAW.
Never heard of any Ford GT losing grip and crashing
>car that keeps killing it's driver when you step away from the gas
That's a feature, not a bug. Vehicles with knife edge handling require the utmost respect or the ride will teach you what respect means. Any amount of focus taken away from the driving experience itself, will kill you and that's in itself is what a true track weapon was before the days of electronic driving safeties. Not everyone could handle the level of responsibility and maturity it requires to pilot a freakin race car on the street and to be fair, I think computerized driving aids to reduce the skill ceiling allowing normies to drive a race car on public roads is wrong. It's becoming too easy for normies to buy 2+ ton cars that can 0-60 in 2-3 seconds, it's absurd.
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do you think chefs cry that the food that was sold for cheap gets more attention than they thought?
no, they just move on to the next dish