e46

diesel or petrol?
why / why not

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only three E46s are worth buying. 3L models and M3. Any M54 with <3L is not worth the trouble, the 4cyls are pointless unless you're broke (who wants a 4cyl that doesn't even make power after 6k?). M57D30s are tunable.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what about 330d

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what about a 36 DD

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well if you do a little bit of research, you'd know that a 330d is a 3L model. I'm not going to spoon feed you

    • 4 weeks ago
      sage

      >4cyls are pointless unless you're broke

      FYI Europistans, they never sold the 4cyls here in the US, they were that unwanted.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Petrol all the way unless you’re just cruising on the highway at the speed limit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the only downside of diesel is the sound
      it mogs petrol in everything else

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the sound
        are you too poor to nurture one of your only five senses?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          are you implying that going petrol is more expensive?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the only downside of diesel is the sound
        and horrible throttle response
        and alwful vibrations
        and slower warm up
        and all the emission shit that only gunks up everything

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          but it has a better start
          economical
          strong horse
          no fricking sparks

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >muh torque
            irrelevant because no hp
            >economical
            oh so you are a poorgay, I get it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nice coping non-arguments kid

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            as opposed to your poorgay cope arguments
            post engine

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            we are fighting over engine type in a 20 year old car
            we are both poorgays idiot

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Had almost every model of every year.

            M3, 330d and 330ci (if you got a frickton money to spend on it) are the best ones. 328i is suprisingly powerful and suprisingly weak compared to the m54.

            >the only downside of diesel is the sound
            and horrible throttle response
            and alwful vibrations
            and slower warm up
            and all the emission shit that only gunks up everything

            I remember being this guy in an M3 until 330d/530d/535ds started washing me no problem on the street, and even once on the track in a really well tuned 535d.

            Yeah man idk about petrol, it has soul and it's fun but it's honestly just not a good choice 90% of the time for people.
            t. E39 530d with a ZF8 swap owner

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >330d and 330ci (if you got a frickton money to spend on it)
            i would understand M versions but why are these two expensive to have?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            my bad I only meant the 330ci/i
            idk the M54 shit broke all too often on me, always something with that engine. I became an M57 believer relatively recently. Always loved the engine tho, but the thing is bulletproof.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            im seriously gonna have a nervous breakdown between deciding should I go petrol or diesel
            can you help? i dont have any experience with e46

            what do you think about

            >the only downside of diesel is the sound
            and horrible throttle response
            and alwful vibrations
            and slower warm up
            and all the emission shit that only gunks up everything

            does it sound like tractor?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            have a nice day eurocuck

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If it's a turbodiesel it has nothing to envy most petrol engines and will probably make for a better driver in daily situations.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            which engine is with turbodiesel?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Apparently all of them according to wiki

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lol so this post doesnt make sense then

            If it's a turbodiesel it has nothing to envy most petrol engines and will probably make for a better driver in daily situations.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, I wasn't aware they all came with turbos because of the nomenclature, I'm more of a classic bimmer guy. From the times where turbo diesel models had the td badge and d was N/A diesel.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you should keep driving $500 shitboxes until you stop asking such moronic questions
            good luck, keep learning, you'll get there

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i thought a 20 year old bmw is a shitbox
            silly me

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >had an M3
            >switched to a poverty spec e39
            seems legit

            If it's a turbodiesel it has nothing to envy most petrol engines and will probably make for a better driver in daily situations.

            kys

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >kys
            care to elaborate

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            diesel is only good for two things
            if you are poor and tow things
            it is in no way a better choice than petrol if you like driving cars, there is a reason all sports cars are petrol, there is a reason that noone says "its a good car, but it would be better if it were a diesel"
            if you had to choose between a petrol and a diesel car ignoring """"reliability"""" amd fuel economy there is no reason to choose a diesel, except maybe if you tow regularly and need torque
            and that brings us to the conclusion that diesel is poorgay cope

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >diesel is poorgay cope
            thats the part that confuses me
            since diesel fuel is more expensive, and diesel engines are complex and more expensive to maintain and repair, doesnt that mean that petrol is cheaper to have and makes petrol poorgay choice?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            are you fricking moronic
            check fuel economy of 330i and 330d
            then show me how much diesel fuel is more expensive than diesel per liter
            then kys
            and some diesels are reliablez some arent, some petrols are, some arent
            seems in general bmw diesels (M57) are better suited to neglect so generally last longer than a neglected petrol, but a looked after one is pretty reliable (N52)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >check fuel economy of 330i and 330d
            where to check this kind of thing

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            god you are such an insufferable c**t
            stop spamming this board with your shitty e46 obsession you literal fricking moron

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wide power band in diesel means more enjoyable drives

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what about the horrible throttle response
            the awful sound
            the terrible vibrations and feel
            truly enjoyable

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            inline-6 doesnt vibrate that much dude
            you must've been in 4 cylinder ones

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >diesel
            >wide power band

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >poverty spec e39
            The best equipped E39 I've seen tbh, rivals my buddies M5.

            Even has M EDC as an option, never seen a non-m with it.

            im seriously gonna have a nervous breakdown between deciding should I go petrol or diesel
            can you help? i dont have any experience with e46

            what do you think about [...]
            does it sound like tractor?

            330ci if you want people to look at you
            330d if you want to have a good car as a daily.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            is 320d really bad or people dont pick it because its bit weaker than 330d?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >is 320d really bad
            nope, was my first ever E46 in 2004. I had the compact, it was cheap.

            Great engine. Obviously it's a 4cyl diesel compact so it's nothing like a real bmw

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            is 4cyl really vibrating a lot and sounds like a tractor?
            is inline-6 less vibrant and loud?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah it's noticeable.

            The 6cyl works smoother, revs faster, makes more power, is more durable.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i can only imagine then how inline-6 petrol sounds and feels

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            petrol feels amazing and drives well, linear power delivery all around but a little weak 1-2.8k rpm

            I had a full exhaust with no cats on it, made the throttle more responsive. But it's really not that crazy when you compare to a diesel.
            Also the M54 takes a bit of investment to sound good, it sounds a little rattle-y from the factory.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wish i could feel the difference between 6cyl diesel and 6cyl petrol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How do you not feel the difference?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            because i dont have two e46s , one with diesel one with petrol to drive them

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just go test drive a 330i and then a 330d.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            where?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            man are you moronic? Just fricking go on marketplace and find the cars you wanna buy and look at them

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dude where do you live? because these are not some fricking peugeots or volkswagens
            they are super rare to find

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dude where do you live?
            The balkans.

            Also I don't think a 3L E46 is rare anywhere?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >buying a bmw from a balkan owner
            jebes me

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ako si ti OP onda me sram da ovako komunicira i postavlja potpitanja neki moron iz naših zemalja

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            a i za to me zabole kurac

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            sorry but diesels are poverty spec as already proven in this thread
            a polished turd is still a turd

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Whatever you say man.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How did swapping the zf8 go especially into such an old chassis as the e39? I recently found out how great of a trans that is with a b8 a5 convertible and Id love to throw it into my b5 a4 which currently has a 5hp in it. I know the TCU is internal which saves a lot of wiring headache but how itll get along with the stock ecu (me7.1) is a big ?. I know gas e39s used an me7 variant but diesel could be bigly different

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wouldn't go into too much detail on a Vietnamese carpentry board but it wasn't that complicated tbh.

            because I swapped the M57N2 from an LCI 535d.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            u have a toy e46 inside e46?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            redpill me on zf8 swapping my E90 335d

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why lol? just buy a model that had the zf8, it's 2008 onwards on the 335d.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh I guess not, I just checked they also use the ZF6.

            Then idk what redpill you want, it's an expensive transmission and the swap is nothing crazy hardware wise. You just have to frick around with coding the trans to the car.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You just have to frick around with coding the trans to the car.
            No, you have to run a standalone transmission controller.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, which is in effect kinda what I said.

            I'm not saying you can code a ZF8 to work with the display cluster of my E39 530d like I did. Because you can't I have an external controller and diagnostic tool.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah, which is in effect kinda what I said.
            >a standalone tcu is just coding
            ok.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not gonna spoonfeed you an entire transmission swap, if you are interested in it, go do it.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    only matter of personal preference
    just be ready to dump ~ $5k into them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      still worth it

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it would be the diesel. I like turbo lag and torque.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    only m52 or m54 rest is junk. I mean m57 was very good diesel at the time, but now is 20y plus old diesel.
    Old diesels ages 10 times worst then old petrol engines. Pretty much one issue like bad injection pump or turbo cost more to fix then car is worth. Diesels have have more milages.
    I have e39 with m54 over 640k Km, i have that car for 2 years and only problem i had was bad oil filter housing gasket. Is my daily, engine run good, even though he has been runing on LPG for latst 10y.
    tbh I'm kind of shady eastern european car dealer and i had a lot of those e46, e39 first gen x5 and diesel ones always had problems, was the most neglected and we did the most shady shit to ''fix' them to sell them. So avoid any old diesels for your own good. Allsow avoid any car with xdrive, this system is not that good in first place and no one knows how to maintains them or fix them, parts are hard to get and cost. My friend have like 3 of those xdrive e46 as part cars, all have broken drivetrain - they have plastic gears inside the reductor and they crack and wear off. Then whole drivetrain gose brrr and then it dies

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so where to look for a diesel one? only to buy in germany?
      eastern euros are poorgays who cant maintain any BMW, its not e46 problem

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >so where to look for a diesel one? only to buy in germany?
        eastern europe, scandinavia but they are pretty much gone there. Diesel taxes and emission contorols send them to Slavland

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >eastern europe
          western my bad.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i see yeah, i am now in slavland and i would never buy a bmw from a fellow slav
            I just know that they didnt maintain it properly

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All e46 engines were good in some way.
    Even the facelift 4 cyl N42 engines. Sure they are a nightmare but it's a rev happy light engine that makes cool noises.
    Prefacelift M43 is gutless but reliable.
    Everyone knows how good m52, m54, m47, m57 are, don't need to comment on those.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All the engines are shit expect the M cars. Everything on them is made of the cheapest plastic ever, it cracks if you look at it wrong.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        then how do they go for over 400k kilometers?
        theres a 320d taxi in my town, its gone over 600k i am ready to bet my hand

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's a rev happy light engine
      no. It's dead after 6k just like the M44 and M42 before it. A 4cyl that doesn't rev higher than an LS2 is pathetic.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if it's not a M there's no point.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      overrated

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        brother the car is a cheap skidbox with biodegradable engine and wiring harness, theres no point in fricking with any of them but at least the m went to 8k.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          dude see this

          then how do they go for over 400k kilometers?
          theres a 320d taxi in my town, its gone over 600k i am ready to bet my hand

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >320d

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >biodegradable engine and wiring harness
          Ehh?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's full of shit.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whatever is cheaper
    because it's cheaper

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    stop making the same garbage thread you fricking eurocuck

    rangeban eurocucks

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    diesel not petrol

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