diesel or petrol?
why / why not
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Only three E46s are worth buying. 3L models and M3. Any M54 with <3L is not worth the trouble, the 4cyls are pointless unless you're broke (who wants a 4cyl that doesn't even make power after 6k?). M57D30s are tunable.
what about 330d
what about a 36 DD
Well if you do a little bit of research, you'd know that a 330d is a 3L model. I'm not going to spoon feed you
>4cyls are pointless unless you're broke
FYI Europistans, they never sold the 4cyls here in the US, they were that unwanted.
Petrol all the way unless you’re just cruising on the highway at the speed limit.
the only downside of diesel is the sound
it mogs petrol in everything else
>the sound
are you too poor to nurture one of your only five senses?
are you implying that going petrol is more expensive?
>the only downside of diesel is the sound
and horrible throttle response
and alwful vibrations
and slower warm up
and all the emission shit that only gunks up everything
but it has a better start
economical
strong horse
no fricking sparks
>muh torque
irrelevant because no hp
>economical
oh so you are a poorgay, I get it
nice coping non-arguments kid
as opposed to your poorgay cope arguments
post engine
we are fighting over engine type in a 20 year old car
we are both poorgays idiot
Had almost every model of every year.
M3, 330d and 330ci (if you got a frickton money to spend on it) are the best ones. 328i is suprisingly powerful and suprisingly weak compared to the m54.
I remember being this guy in an M3 until 330d/530d/535ds started washing me no problem on the street, and even once on the track in a really well tuned 535d.
Yeah man idk about petrol, it has soul and it's fun but it's honestly just not a good choice 90% of the time for people.
t. E39 530d with a ZF8 swap owner
>330d and 330ci (if you got a frickton money to spend on it)
i would understand M versions but why are these two expensive to have?
my bad I only meant the 330ci/i
idk the M54 shit broke all too often on me, always something with that engine. I became an M57 believer relatively recently. Always loved the engine tho, but the thing is bulletproof.
im seriously gonna have a nervous breakdown between deciding should I go petrol or diesel
can you help? i dont have any experience with e46
what do you think about
does it sound like tractor?
have a nice day eurocuck
If it's a turbodiesel it has nothing to envy most petrol engines and will probably make for a better driver in daily situations.
which engine is with turbodiesel?
Apparently all of them according to wiki
lol so this post doesnt make sense then
Well, I wasn't aware they all came with turbos because of the nomenclature, I'm more of a classic bimmer guy. From the times where turbo diesel models had the td badge and d was N/A diesel.
you should keep driving $500 shitboxes until you stop asking such moronic questions
good luck, keep learning, you'll get there
i thought a 20 year old bmw is a shitbox
silly me
>had an M3
>switched to a poverty spec e39
seems legit
kys
>kys
care to elaborate
diesel is only good for two things
if you are poor and tow things
it is in no way a better choice than petrol if you like driving cars, there is a reason all sports cars are petrol, there is a reason that noone says "its a good car, but it would be better if it were a diesel"
if you had to choose between a petrol and a diesel car ignoring """"reliability"""" amd fuel economy there is no reason to choose a diesel, except maybe if you tow regularly and need torque
and that brings us to the conclusion that diesel is poorgay cope
>diesel is poorgay cope
thats the part that confuses me
since diesel fuel is more expensive, and diesel engines are complex and more expensive to maintain and repair, doesnt that mean that petrol is cheaper to have and makes petrol poorgay choice?
are you fricking moronic
check fuel economy of 330i and 330d
then show me how much diesel fuel is more expensive than diesel per liter
then kys
and some diesels are reliablez some arent, some petrols are, some arent
seems in general bmw diesels (M57) are better suited to neglect so generally last longer than a neglected petrol, but a looked after one is pretty reliable (N52)
>check fuel economy of 330i and 330d
where to check this kind of thing
god you are such an insufferable c**t
stop spamming this board with your shitty e46 obsession you literal fricking moron
wide power band in diesel means more enjoyable drives
what about the horrible throttle response
the awful sound
the terrible vibrations and feel
truly enjoyable
inline-6 doesnt vibrate that much dude
you must've been in 4 cylinder ones
>diesel
>wide power band
>poverty spec e39
The best equipped E39 I've seen tbh, rivals my buddies M5.
Even has M EDC as an option, never seen a non-m with it.
330ci if you want people to look at you
330d if you want to have a good car as a daily.
is 320d really bad or people dont pick it because its bit weaker than 330d?
>is 320d really bad
nope, was my first ever E46 in 2004. I had the compact, it was cheap.
Great engine. Obviously it's a 4cyl diesel compact so it's nothing like a real bmw
is 4cyl really vibrating a lot and sounds like a tractor?
is inline-6 less vibrant and loud?
Yeah it's noticeable.
The 6cyl works smoother, revs faster, makes more power, is more durable.
i can only imagine then how inline-6 petrol sounds and feels
petrol feels amazing and drives well, linear power delivery all around but a little weak 1-2.8k rpm
I had a full exhaust with no cats on it, made the throttle more responsive. But it's really not that crazy when you compare to a diesel.
Also the M54 takes a bit of investment to sound good, it sounds a little rattle-y from the factory.
wish i could feel the difference between 6cyl diesel and 6cyl petrol
How do you not feel the difference?
because i dont have two e46s , one with diesel one with petrol to drive them
Just go test drive a 330i and then a 330d.
where?
man are you moronic? Just fricking go on marketplace and find the cars you wanna buy and look at them
dude where do you live? because these are not some fricking peugeots or volkswagens
they are super rare to find
>dude where do you live?
The balkans.
Also I don't think a 3L E46 is rare anywhere?
>buying a bmw from a balkan owner
jebes me
ako si ti OP onda me sram da ovako komunicira i postavlja potpitanja neki moron iz naših zemalja
a i za to me zabole kurac
sorry but diesels are poverty spec as already proven in this thread
a polished turd is still a turd
Whatever you say man.
How did swapping the zf8 go especially into such an old chassis as the e39? I recently found out how great of a trans that is with a b8 a5 convertible and Id love to throw it into my b5 a4 which currently has a 5hp in it. I know the TCU is internal which saves a lot of wiring headache but how itll get along with the stock ecu (me7.1) is a big ?. I know gas e39s used an me7 variant but diesel could be bigly different
wouldn't go into too much detail on a Vietnamese carpentry board but it wasn't that complicated tbh.
because I swapped the M57N2 from an LCI 535d.
u have a toy e46 inside e46?
redpill me on zf8 swapping my E90 335d
why lol? just buy a model that had the zf8, it's 2008 onwards on the 335d.
oh I guess not, I just checked they also use the ZF6.
Then idk what redpill you want, it's an expensive transmission and the swap is nothing crazy hardware wise. You just have to frick around with coding the trans to the car.
>You just have to frick around with coding the trans to the car.
No, you have to run a standalone transmission controller.
Yeah, which is in effect kinda what I said.
I'm not saying you can code a ZF8 to work with the display cluster of my E39 530d like I did. Because you can't I have an external controller and diagnostic tool.
>Yeah, which is in effect kinda what I said.
>a standalone tcu is just coding
ok.
I'm not gonna spoonfeed you an entire transmission swap, if you are interested in it, go do it.
only matter of personal preference
just be ready to dump ~ $5k into them
still worth it
For me, it would be the diesel. I like turbo lag and torque.
only m52 or m54 rest is junk. I mean m57 was very good diesel at the time, but now is 20y plus old diesel.
Old diesels ages 10 times worst then old petrol engines. Pretty much one issue like bad injection pump or turbo cost more to fix then car is worth. Diesels have have more milages.
I have e39 with m54 over 640k Km, i have that car for 2 years and only problem i had was bad oil filter housing gasket. Is my daily, engine run good, even though he has been runing on LPG for latst 10y.
tbh I'm kind of shady eastern european car dealer and i had a lot of those e46, e39 first gen x5 and diesel ones always had problems, was the most neglected and we did the most shady shit to ''fix' them to sell them. So avoid any old diesels for your own good. Allsow avoid any car with xdrive, this system is not that good in first place and no one knows how to maintains them or fix them, parts are hard to get and cost. My friend have like 3 of those xdrive e46 as part cars, all have broken drivetrain - they have plastic gears inside the reductor and they crack and wear off. Then whole drivetrain gose brrr and then it dies
so where to look for a diesel one? only to buy in germany?
eastern euros are poorgays who cant maintain any BMW, its not e46 problem
>so where to look for a diesel one? only to buy in germany?
eastern europe, scandinavia but they are pretty much gone there. Diesel taxes and emission contorols send them to Slavland
>eastern europe
western my bad.
i see yeah, i am now in slavland and i would never buy a bmw from a fellow slav
I just know that they didnt maintain it properly
All e46 engines were good in some way.
Even the facelift 4 cyl N42 engines. Sure they are a nightmare but it's a rev happy light engine that makes cool noises.
Prefacelift M43 is gutless but reliable.
Everyone knows how good m52, m54, m47, m57 are, don't need to comment on those.
All the engines are shit expect the M cars. Everything on them is made of the cheapest plastic ever, it cracks if you look at it wrong.
then how do they go for over 400k kilometers?
theres a 320d taxi in my town, its gone over 600k i am ready to bet my hand
>it's a rev happy light engine
no. It's dead after 6k just like the M44 and M42 before it. A 4cyl that doesn't rev higher than an LS2 is pathetic.
if it's not a M there's no point.
overrated
brother the car is a cheap skidbox with biodegradable engine and wiring harness, theres no point in fricking with any of them but at least the m went to 8k.
dude see this
>320d
yes?
>biodegradable engine and wiring harness
Ehh?
He's full of shit.
whatever is cheaper
because it's cheaper
stop making the same garbage thread you fricking eurocuck
rangeban eurocucks
diesel not petrol