Electric cars

Seriously, why are they so popular in EU and the US? In my country no one drives them. I barely even see them.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cause they're better than ICEVs in most situations.
    >more reliable
    >safer
    >less expensive

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tax incentives are very high. If you can afford them they can make more sense than equally expensive gas car.

      Roofs ripping off Teslas and spontaneous combustion doesen't sound very safe. Not being capable of driving through rain is another big negative.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > Tax incentives are very high
        Huh? Cars are charged only by power in h.p. and nothing else.
        200 kwh electric car will have same tax as 271 h.p. combustion car.
        I've heard some weird stories when imported used hybrids were charged as summ of their combustion and electric motors, lol. Imagine having x2 horse power I'm tax lol.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Huh? Cars are charged only by power in h.p. and nothing else.
          Where's that? In my corner of yurop, they tax gasoline cars based on CO2 emissions, both when they're first sold and then in the yearly road tax.
          They don't care about the power, although high-power cars made for other markets generally aren't optimized for CO2 ratings and so get taxed to oblivion. The scale isn't linear, so a US-style truck registered as a passenger could easily end up with 5-10 times the road tax and +50% on its purchase price despite only having like 3-4 times the emissions.
          Cars with other power sources are taxed based on total weight and a multiplier that depends on their power source.
          That multiplier is currently very low for EVs. They'll probably change it when they start running out of boomer healthcare money again.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >registered as a passenger
            passenger vehicle, ffs

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            wrong

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            double wrong

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe in your shithole. EVs are exempt from car tax and enjoy subsidies for corporations as work cars. Gas also costs $9/gal thanks to immense taxes

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This exactly. Biggest reason why EVs are popular is those tax incentives, subsidies. If these incentives and subsidies would get halted then sales of EVs would plummet very quickly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This has happened multiple times, and EV sales haven't plummeted. Even in places without any incentive and where EVs pay fees much higher than gas cars, EVs are cheaper to drive because of their efficiency, and because owners can easily create their own electricity to charge them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            are you guys getting overtime for all your work today?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Here in Russia electricity is cost almost nothing (2 cents per kilowatt hour at night) and gas is relatively cheap (60 cents a liter). And still we don't have any adoption of EVs. I think in rural areas people didn't even seen any EVs in their whole life.

          • 1 month ago
            p

            Average salary in russia is $400usd per month

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > tripcode
            Seriously?

          • 1 month ago
            p

            You’re worried about a tripcode while you earn $400 a month?
            Talk about priorities…

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not him

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Now how much more purchasing power do Russians have with that $400? 3-4x as much as an american probably.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Purchasing power doesn't really work that way when you're talking about cars. Even the cheapest chink EVs that aren't rickshaws with doors are 5 figure vehicles

          • 1 month ago
            p

            average gas price in US is $0.78/L, average monthly salary in US is $4k

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            According to the official """guidelines""" for mass-media messaging (a.k.a. propaganda), electric cars are a wectoid konspiratsiya. Pls to ignore the fact that 70% of all electric cars in the world are built in China, by Chinese-owned companies, and sold by Chinese companies (the remaining 30% are merely built in China by Chinese companies).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Am I getting trolled or something

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >gas is relatively cheap (60 cents a liter)
            So a typical Lada will cost about $.10 a mile.

            >2 cents per kilowatt hour at night
            And a cheap Chinese electric car in a Russian winter will cost $.01 a mile.

            When Russia gets its act together after Putin, going electric will be really popular.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > EVs are exempt from car tax and enjoy subsidies for corporations as work cars.
            I heard shitholes have that

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >200kwh is same as 271hp
          is 2 meters the same as 18.1 seconds?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Based smoothbrain. Kilowatts and horsepower are directly convertible.
            1 kW = 1.34 steam horsepower
            1 kW = 1.36 mechanical horsepower

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh boy, you just went full moron. I'm no EV gay but kwh is a measurement of energy over time, basically the EV version of fuel tank size.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ah, sorry, eyeball no work. Completely missed the 'h' part after 'kw'. Yeah, that anon mixed up power and output/capacity.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Roofs ripping off Teslas and spontaneous combustion doesen't sound very safe. Not being capable of driving through rain is another big negative.
        Good thing none of that happens! Unlike ICEVs which catch fire all the time in accidents.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Intentionally hiding relative fires to owner counts proves the pic is misleading even if it's ridiculously round and convenient numbers were founded in something. Entire ships have been btfo'd by single burning EVs to the point they're now banned.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Entire ships have been btfo'd by single burning EVs to the point they're now banned.
            And 90% of those ship fires were caused by garbage-tier slant-eyed-built e-bike/e-scooter batteries (who tend to have precisely 0 QC, because everybody wants cheap batteries for their rustcycle), rather than electric car ones.

            Yuropoorians can use third phase in garage chargers similarly to how US ovens may be 210V, increasing power budget by a sizeable sum

            >Yuropoorians can use third phase in garage chargers
            Not super common, generally require a bespoke build, sort of like how 240 V combined phase requires some specific stuff. Most people just tie a 20 A RCBO to the panel, and mount a weatherproofed socket somewhere on the patio/terrace/whatever wall, to use with a max 16 A portable charger.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I was looking at an EV, but with my standard 110v socket it was gonna be 1.5-1.6kWh at most which would be like 5 miles per hour of charge.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's worth getting a 240v outlet in your garage just to run tools

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Three-phase power is pretty common in Finnish houses because of electric stoves and saunas. If your house's wiring is decent, I think you can pull about 16 A per phase out of that, for a total of around 11 kW. That'll charge a car overnight just fine.
            Would definitely have a professional inspect the wiring before trying that for the first time, though---some older houses may come with very loose interpretations of the electrical code.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Name one ship.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fremantle Highway

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Fremantle Highway
            > On 28 July, it was reported that there were almost 500 electric cars on the ship, which was significantly more than originally assumed, although all were recovered without significant damage and did not contribute to the fire.

            K Line

            >K Line
            That's the charter company that ran the fremantle highway from above.

            Felicity Ace

            > Felicity Ace
            > Contrary to speculations in the media, it is unknown whether an electric car caused the initial fire.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >That's the charter company that ran the fremantle highway from above.
            They had another fire on a different ship, the Diamond Highway,

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So were all the fires on car carrier ships pre-EV era caused by something else but fires in the post-EV era are all from EVs?

            Unless you've got proof, it's just pointless to bring up every fire where the ship happened to be carrying EVs aboard at the time.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That was the other anon. I pointed out that just about all the fires attributed to "EVs" were caused by "shit from the ass"-tier e-bicycle/e-scooter batteries. And, anyway, most of the cargo ship fires originated from faults in ICE cars in the first place. Though, admittedly, in the couple instances when fire did eventually spread to electric cars, the whole fricking ship burned down.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >W-we don't know for sure!!!1
            >meanwhile three ships have blown the frick out thanks to massive lithium ion fires
            That's some weapons grade copium right there

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Indeed, the fact you need to make up lithium fires is the highest grade copium I've seen in awhile.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            K Line

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Felicity Ace

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >. Entire chink ships have been btfo'd by single burning EVs
            Good

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Who cares

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > ICEVs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Makes sense that they would be the enemy of vile israeli EVs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > Makes sense that they would be the enemy of vile israeli EVs.
          Lol

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because in your country people are too poor for new cars homosexual thirdie

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > because in your country people are too poor for new cars homosexual thirdie
      Import tax on used cars is ridiculously high. It's pointless to import used cars here.
      80-90% of cars that first time registered are new.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The short answer is that white people have internalized guilt because they took over the world, so they have to pretend they're saving it from the horrible emissions demon and "climate change" even though the disgusting brown rapists and yellow insects in india and china produce triple the emissions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To be honest, west produced their emissions in the past

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        so now nonhumans are allowed to do that too because...?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > so now nonhumans are allowed to do that too because...?
          To cath up.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            and why would anyone want the subhumans to catch up?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > and why would anyone want the subhumans to catch up?
            So all this green thing is hypocritical shit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why don't they just use proven white technology to not shit the planet up instead? They don't have to discover the coal power plant, we already figured everything out for them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      China is actually leading the world on per-capita emissions reductions progress.
      We don't need to dicuss the fact that the whiole climarte change hysteria guilt trip is a fraud because you emotional Karen cuck brain cant handle it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        lol

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the graph shows off his statement pretty acurrately. whats your point?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >china is leading the world in per capita emissions reductions
        because... they lead the world in per capita emissions in the first place. and you cannot trust a censorious centralized authoritarian government to continue doing what you consider "good" and "right", even if you happen to agree with what they purport to be doing right at this moment.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shorter driven distances and quicker charging. Using a median (80%) average, your typical yuropeon drives roughly half as many miles (or kilounits, whatever), compared to the standard-issue amerifat. And the basic-b***h current available from a domestic socket is twice as efficient at charging an electric car in yuroland. 230 V times 16 A is 3680 W, nearly twice the supplied power of an equivalent 120 V US socket.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yuropoorians can use third phase in garage chargers similarly to how US ovens may be 210V, increasing power budget by a sizeable sum

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they're not popular at all in the US. some cities in california have higher adoption rates up around maybe 1 or 2% but in 99% of the country they make up less than .5% of cars on the road. over 93% of people buying new cars today even with all the subsidies and incentives are still buying normal gas cars, and that number is rising.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they make up less than .5% of cars on the road
      In mid 2024 (now) the estimate is 1% or around 2.8-3 million cars.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >in 99% of the country
        learn to read.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well in 100% of the country it's 1% of vehicles.

          Why try to make up some fake metric you can't source?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >fake metric you can't source

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There are ~2.5M Teslas on the road in the US alone. They got ~6M world wide.

      Your chart must be half a decade old or so

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ~2.5m EVs on the road total, of which teslas are about half.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > There are ~2.5M Teslas on the road in the US alone. They got ~6M world wide.
        I have saw tesla only few times.

        y. OP

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    are you kidding me? EV cars from ford and Tesla are not selling. It's probably the charging time. Even Hertz is hurting with EV cars. Take a look at scotty kilmer chan or better yet, EPauto.com. EV cars are shit. I remember during Trump lockdowns, I went to get gas and there was a guy sitting in a tesla; after i finished getting gas and a coffee, the guy was still sitting in his car at a charger. Maybe someday battery chargers will improve.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Makes sense in the EU since gas and diesel prices has shot through the roof the last couple of years.

    Even after most countries dropped incentives they have continued to sell, which I think is because of fuel prices.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Some of the EU countries dropped the subsidies for the oil and gas, thats why the prices have skyrocketed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        nah, here's a chart of worldwide gas subsidies and taxes from 2014. only country that subsidized gas was malaysia. EU taxes are around 50%. basically you're moronic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >2014
          he said last couple of years which was after the scandemic allowed for big business to skyrocket their prices for no good reason
          some governments decided it's a good time to start regulating gas prices and in the last 2-3 years they dropped the regulations/subsidies and prices went up again

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Okay

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >in my country

    JUST SAY THE FRICKING COUNTRY OR HOW DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > JUST SAY THE FRICKING COUNTRY OR HOW DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION
      Russia

      I would guess that OP doesn't live in a country that has the energy grid nor infrastructure to support charging them at random places. Not a knock, some places just aren't investing in the supporting infrastructure like the US and EU. Plus places like Thailand get access to cheap working trucks like the Hilux Champ.

      We have plenty of infrastructure here. I mean when I assembled my rtx4080@7800x3d PC I was asked by DA about buying UPS to counter power outages, but I really can't remember when power was off last time.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >russia

        The reason you don't have EV's is you are poor and under sanctions for chimping out in ukraine.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Aren't EV affordable or something?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Even before sanctions it didn't worked out.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Because of government shilling and because morons buy them, thinking that they are saving planet.

          Even if Russians were rich, EVs wouldn't fit in because of how complicated they are to work on, because of how impractical they are overall, and because of weather and environment. Your average Eastern European winter and autumn weathers aren't joking matter and your EVs would get bricked or wouldn't even start because they can't handle strong moisture and cold. Not to mention living in rural side where you have to entirely rely on cars and having electricity overall can be luxury.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >because of how complicated they are to work on
            What's complicated about it? I built the necessary circuits for an electric car back when I was a student. They are very simple. I think you are confusing a bunch of extraneous stuff going into luxury cars with what is actually necessary.

            >having electricity overall can be luxury
            Which do you think is easier? Generating your own electricity? Or the global infrastructure to extract, refine, and deliver gasoline?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >global infrastructure
            both US and russia are energy independent and net exporters of oil.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            All the more reason to reduce domestic consumption. But I guess I can't expect Russians to understand Capitalism.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you had to have known how stupid this was while you were typing it yet you hit post anyway

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You think the Nordic countries got rich burning their own stuff? What did Russia think was going to happen burning their own supply and pissing the West off?
            The Saudis may be buttholes but they're trying to get everyone to like them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > You think the Nordic countries got rich burning their own stuff?
            In fact yes. If Russia has 20 million population it was rich as Norway

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So is Norway

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Norway
            More like NorGAY

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Norgay has 3 million population

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Your bait is too damn obvious.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They are not

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would guess that OP doesn't live in a country that has the energy grid nor infrastructure to support charging them at random places. Not a knock, some places just aren't investing in the supporting infrastructure like the US and EU. Plus places like Thailand get access to cheap working trucks like the Hilux Champ.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >why are they so popular in EU and the US?
    EV adoption rates are less than 1% in 41 out of 50 states.

    https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/amount-of-electric-vehicle-owners-by-state

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You probably live in the 3rd world.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They aren't really, Hybrids are more popular

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    NPCs think they're saving the planet by driving EVs

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason why China pushing them internally. Because we want to shake off our dependence on 3rd world shitter countries and their oil. EVs became minimally viable a bit earlier than mass production of synthetic fuel so here we are.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they are better but more technologically advanced and expensive so only rich places like the US, Europe and China get them while everyone else sticks to shitty gas cars.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kek good one

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's simple. Makes sense for Europeans because they don't drive to the extent that Americans do. Americans buy them because they're stupid and think celebrity opinions are informed. Canadians are like the moronic little brother copying Americans

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      On the contrary, the more you drive the more sense an EV makes. Since a short-range BEV, PHEV with a range-extender, or longer-range BEV will all substantially reduce your dependence on gasoline.
      Plus the more you drive, the more likely you are to own a home and have a place to charge a vehicle.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because there are a lot of homosexuals in those countries

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