Seriously, why are they so popular in EU and the US? In my country no one drives them. I barely even see them.
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Seriously, why are they so popular in EU and the US? In my country no one drives them. I barely even see them.
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Cause they're better than ICEVs in most situations.
>more reliable
>safer
>less expensive
Tax incentives are very high. If you can afford them they can make more sense than equally expensive gas car.
Roofs ripping off Teslas and spontaneous combustion doesen't sound very safe. Not being capable of driving through rain is another big negative.
> Tax incentives are very high
Huh? Cars are charged only by power in h.p. and nothing else.
200 kwh electric car will have same tax as 271 h.p. combustion car.
I've heard some weird stories when imported used hybrids were charged as summ of their combustion and electric motors, lol. Imagine having x2 horse power I'm tax lol.
>Huh? Cars are charged only by power in h.p. and nothing else.
Where's that? In my corner of yurop, they tax gasoline cars based on CO2 emissions, both when they're first sold and then in the yearly road tax.
They don't care about the power, although high-power cars made for other markets generally aren't optimized for CO2 ratings and so get taxed to oblivion. The scale isn't linear, so a US-style truck registered as a passenger could easily end up with 5-10 times the road tax and +50% on its purchase price despite only having like 3-4 times the emissions.
Cars with other power sources are taxed based on total weight and a multiplier that depends on their power source.
That multiplier is currently very low for EVs. They'll probably change it when they start running out of boomer healthcare money again.
>registered as a passenger
passenger vehicle, ffs
wrong
double wrong
Maybe in your shithole. EVs are exempt from car tax and enjoy subsidies for corporations as work cars. Gas also costs $9/gal thanks to immense taxes
This exactly. Biggest reason why EVs are popular is those tax incentives, subsidies. If these incentives and subsidies would get halted then sales of EVs would plummet very quickly.
This has happened multiple times, and EV sales haven't plummeted. Even in places without any incentive and where EVs pay fees much higher than gas cars, EVs are cheaper to drive because of their efficiency, and because owners can easily create their own electricity to charge them.
are you guys getting overtime for all your work today?
Here in Russia electricity is cost almost nothing (2 cents per kilowatt hour at night) and gas is relatively cheap (60 cents a liter). And still we don't have any adoption of EVs. I think in rural areas people didn't even seen any EVs in their whole life.
Average salary in russia is $400usd per month
> tripcode
Seriously?
You’re worried about a tripcode while you earn $400 a month?
Talk about priorities…
I'm not him
Now how much more purchasing power do Russians have with that $400? 3-4x as much as an american probably.
Purchasing power doesn't really work that way when you're talking about cars. Even the cheapest chink EVs that aren't rickshaws with doors are 5 figure vehicles
average gas price in US is $0.78/L, average monthly salary in US is $4k
According to the official """guidelines""" for mass-media messaging (a.k.a. propaganda), electric cars are a wectoid konspiratsiya. Pls to ignore the fact that 70% of all electric cars in the world are built in China, by Chinese-owned companies, and sold by Chinese companies (the remaining 30% are merely built in China by Chinese companies).
Am I getting trolled or something
>gas is relatively cheap (60 cents a liter)
So a typical Lada will cost about $.10 a mile.
>2 cents per kilowatt hour at night
And a cheap Chinese electric car in a Russian winter will cost $.01 a mile.
When Russia gets its act together after Putin, going electric will be really popular.
> EVs are exempt from car tax and enjoy subsidies for corporations as work cars.
I heard shitholes have that
>200kwh is same as 271hp
is 2 meters the same as 18.1 seconds?
Based smoothbrain. Kilowatts and horsepower are directly convertible.
1 kW = 1.34 steam horsepower
1 kW = 1.36 mechanical horsepower
Oh boy, you just went full moron. I'm no EV gay but kwh is a measurement of energy over time, basically the EV version of fuel tank size.
Ah, sorry, eyeball no work. Completely missed the 'h' part after 'kw'. Yeah, that anon mixed up power and output/capacity.
>Roofs ripping off Teslas and spontaneous combustion doesen't sound very safe. Not being capable of driving through rain is another big negative.
Good thing none of that happens! Unlike ICEVs which catch fire all the time in accidents.
Intentionally hiding relative fires to owner counts proves the pic is misleading even if it's ridiculously round and convenient numbers were founded in something. Entire ships have been btfo'd by single burning EVs to the point they're now banned.
>Entire ships have been btfo'd by single burning EVs to the point they're now banned.
And 90% of those ship fires were caused by garbage-tier slant-eyed-built e-bike/e-scooter batteries (who tend to have precisely 0 QC, because everybody wants cheap batteries for their rustcycle), rather than electric car ones.
>Yuropoorians can use third phase in garage chargers
Not super common, generally require a bespoke build, sort of like how 240 V combined phase requires some specific stuff. Most people just tie a 20 A RCBO to the panel, and mount a weatherproofed socket somewhere on the patio/terrace/whatever wall, to use with a max 16 A portable charger.
I was looking at an EV, but with my standard 110v socket it was gonna be 1.5-1.6kWh at most which would be like 5 miles per hour of charge.
It's worth getting a 240v outlet in your garage just to run tools
Three-phase power is pretty common in Finnish houses because of electric stoves and saunas. If your house's wiring is decent, I think you can pull about 16 A per phase out of that, for a total of around 11 kW. That'll charge a car overnight just fine.
Would definitely have a professional inspect the wiring before trying that for the first time, though---some older houses may come with very loose interpretations of the electrical code.
Name one ship.
Fremantle Highway
>Fremantle Highway
> On 28 July, it was reported that there were almost 500 electric cars on the ship, which was significantly more than originally assumed, although all were recovered without significant damage and did not contribute to the fire.
>K Line
That's the charter company that ran the fremantle highway from above.
> Felicity Ace
> Contrary to speculations in the media, it is unknown whether an electric car caused the initial fire.
>That's the charter company that ran the fremantle highway from above.
They had another fire on a different ship, the Diamond Highway,
So were all the fires on car carrier ships pre-EV era caused by something else but fires in the post-EV era are all from EVs?
Unless you've got proof, it's just pointless to bring up every fire where the ship happened to be carrying EVs aboard at the time.
That was the other anon. I pointed out that just about all the fires attributed to "EVs" were caused by "shit from the ass"-tier e-bicycle/e-scooter batteries. And, anyway, most of the cargo ship fires originated from faults in ICE cars in the first place. Though, admittedly, in the couple instances when fire did eventually spread to electric cars, the whole fricking ship burned down.
>W-we don't know for sure!!!1
>meanwhile three ships have blown the frick out thanks to massive lithium ion fires
That's some weapons grade copium right there
Indeed, the fact you need to make up lithium fires is the highest grade copium I've seen in awhile.
K Line
Felicity Ace
>. Entire chink ships have been btfo'd by single burning EVs
Good
Who cares
> ICEVs
Makes sense that they would be the enemy of vile israeli EVs.
> Makes sense that they would be the enemy of vile israeli EVs.
Lol
because in your country people are too poor for new cars homosexual thirdie
> because in your country people are too poor for new cars homosexual thirdie
Import tax on used cars is ridiculously high. It's pointless to import used cars here.
80-90% of cars that first time registered are new.
The short answer is that white people have internalized guilt because they took over the world, so they have to pretend they're saving it from the horrible emissions demon and "climate change" even though the disgusting brown rapists and yellow insects in india and china produce triple the emissions.
To be honest, west produced their emissions in the past
so now nonhumans are allowed to do that too because...?
> so now nonhumans are allowed to do that too because...?
To cath up.
and why would anyone want the subhumans to catch up?
> and why would anyone want the subhumans to catch up?
So all this green thing is hypocritical shit.
Why don't they just use proven white technology to not shit the planet up instead? They don't have to discover the coal power plant, we already figured everything out for them.
China is actually leading the world on per-capita emissions reductions progress.
We don't need to dicuss the fact that the whiole climarte change hysteria guilt trip is a fraud because you emotional Karen cuck brain cant handle it
lol
the graph shows off his statement pretty acurrately. whats your point?
>china is leading the world in per capita emissions reductions
because... they lead the world in per capita emissions in the first place. and you cannot trust a censorious centralized authoritarian government to continue doing what you consider "good" and "right", even if you happen to agree with what they purport to be doing right at this moment.
Shorter driven distances and quicker charging. Using a median (80%) average, your typical yuropeon drives roughly half as many miles (or kilounits, whatever), compared to the standard-issue amerifat. And the basic-b***h current available from a domestic socket is twice as efficient at charging an electric car in yuroland. 230 V times 16 A is 3680 W, nearly twice the supplied power of an equivalent 120 V US socket.
Yuropoorians can use third phase in garage chargers similarly to how US ovens may be 210V, increasing power budget by a sizeable sum
they're not popular at all in the US. some cities in california have higher adoption rates up around maybe 1 or 2% but in 99% of the country they make up less than .5% of cars on the road. over 93% of people buying new cars today even with all the subsidies and incentives are still buying normal gas cars, and that number is rising.
>they make up less than .5% of cars on the road
In mid 2024 (now) the estimate is 1% or around 2.8-3 million cars.
>in 99% of the country
learn to read.
Well in 100% of the country it's 1% of vehicles.
Why try to make up some fake metric you can't source?
>fake metric you can't source
There are ~2.5M Teslas on the road in the US alone. They got ~6M world wide.
Your chart must be half a decade old or so
~2.5m EVs on the road total, of which teslas are about half.
> There are ~2.5M Teslas on the road in the US alone. They got ~6M world wide.
I have saw tesla only few times.
y. OP
are you kidding me? EV cars from ford and Tesla are not selling. It's probably the charging time. Even Hertz is hurting with EV cars. Take a look at scotty kilmer chan or better yet, EPauto.com. EV cars are shit. I remember during Trump lockdowns, I went to get gas and there was a guy sitting in a tesla; after i finished getting gas and a coffee, the guy was still sitting in his car at a charger. Maybe someday battery chargers will improve.
Makes sense in the EU since gas and diesel prices has shot through the roof the last couple of years.
Even after most countries dropped incentives they have continued to sell, which I think is because of fuel prices.
Some of the EU countries dropped the subsidies for the oil and gas, thats why the prices have skyrocketed.
nah, here's a chart of worldwide gas subsidies and taxes from 2014. only country that subsidized gas was malaysia. EU taxes are around 50%. basically you're moronic.
>2014
he said last couple of years which was after the scandemic allowed for big business to skyrocket their prices for no good reason
some governments decided it's a good time to start regulating gas prices and in the last 2-3 years they dropped the regulations/subsidies and prices went up again
Okay
>in my country
JUST SAY THE FRICKING COUNTRY OR HOW DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION
> JUST SAY THE FRICKING COUNTRY OR HOW DO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION
Russia
We have plenty of infrastructure here. I mean when I assembled my rtx4080@7800x3d PC I was asked by DA about buying UPS to counter power outages, but I really can't remember when power was off last time.
>russia
The reason you don't have EV's is you are poor and under sanctions for chimping out in ukraine.
Aren't EV affordable or something?
Even before sanctions it didn't worked out.
Because of government shilling and because morons buy them, thinking that they are saving planet.
Even if Russians were rich, EVs wouldn't fit in because of how complicated they are to work on, because of how impractical they are overall, and because of weather and environment. Your average Eastern European winter and autumn weathers aren't joking matter and your EVs would get bricked or wouldn't even start because they can't handle strong moisture and cold. Not to mention living in rural side where you have to entirely rely on cars and having electricity overall can be luxury.
>because of how complicated they are to work on
What's complicated about it? I built the necessary circuits for an electric car back when I was a student. They are very simple. I think you are confusing a bunch of extraneous stuff going into luxury cars with what is actually necessary.
>having electricity overall can be luxury
Which do you think is easier? Generating your own electricity? Or the global infrastructure to extract, refine, and deliver gasoline?
>global infrastructure
both US and russia are energy independent and net exporters of oil.
All the more reason to reduce domestic consumption. But I guess I can't expect Russians to understand Capitalism.
you had to have known how stupid this was while you were typing it yet you hit post anyway
You think the Nordic countries got rich burning their own stuff? What did Russia think was going to happen burning their own supply and pissing the West off?
The Saudis may be buttholes but they're trying to get everyone to like them.
> You think the Nordic countries got rich burning their own stuff?
In fact yes. If Russia has 20 million population it was rich as Norway
So is Norway
>Norway
More like NorGAY
Norgay has 3 million population
Your bait is too damn obvious.
They are not
I would guess that OP doesn't live in a country that has the energy grid nor infrastructure to support charging them at random places. Not a knock, some places just aren't investing in the supporting infrastructure like the US and EU. Plus places like Thailand get access to cheap working trucks like the Hilux Champ.
>why are they so popular in EU and the US?
EV adoption rates are less than 1% in 41 out of 50 states.
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/amount-of-electric-vehicle-owners-by-state
You probably live in the 3rd world.
They aren't really, Hybrids are more popular
NPCs think they're saving the planet by driving EVs
Same reason why China pushing them internally. Because we want to shake off our dependence on 3rd world shitter countries and their oil. EVs became minimally viable a bit earlier than mass production of synthetic fuel so here we are.
they are better but more technologically advanced and expensive so only rich places like the US, Europe and China get them while everyone else sticks to shitty gas cars.
kek good one
It's simple. Makes sense for Europeans because they don't drive to the extent that Americans do. Americans buy them because they're stupid and think celebrity opinions are informed. Canadians are like the moronic little brother copying Americans
On the contrary, the more you drive the more sense an EV makes. Since a short-range BEV, PHEV with a range-extender, or longer-range BEV will all substantially reduce your dependence on gasoline.
Plus the more you drive, the more likely you are to own a home and have a place to charge a vehicle.
Because there are a lot of homosexuals in those countries