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>ICEtard still seething about EVs
As usual.
Why do you hate America?
Striving to be the best is American as it gets.
Why would I hate a country I live in? Don't fellow Americans want fresh clean air to breathe instead of the nasty emissions being belched out by ICE powered vehicles? Electric vehicles and nuclear power plants would be super beneficial to American cities. This is Los Angeles, looks horrible with all the smog right? I live here and I have to breathe in this shit every single day. The pollution problem has been a thorn in LA's ass since the 1940s (probably before that) and not a single thing has changed since then. Only EVs will partially reduce this smog crisis and nuclear power plants will help tremendously.
>LA has the same exact geography as every city ever
My argument is that major cities like LA has a pollution problem and can be fixed by ridding ICE vehicles and nasty power plants and replace them with EVs and nuclear power plants. Take a look at NYC, then Chicago, then Houston... It's just as bad in those cities but less worse than LA.
Agreed.
Well LA deserves to be nuked off the face of the planet. Easy way to remove the smog
This. If you love America, you should love electric cars. Electric cars use American energy with American infrastructure. They make cleaner air for the health of Americans.
I hate America
>non-American opinion
Ah, it's worthless.
>non-American
who are you quoting?
>Electric cars use American energy with American infrastructure.
yeah, about that...
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-midwest-danger-rotating-power-blackouts-this-summer-2022-06-03/
EVs charge when demand is lowest in the middle of the night, or supply is greatest in the middle of the day.
The main thing that's talking about is extreme weather events which effect everyone, but EVs slightly less.
If there's a storm coming that might knock out power I can make sure my EV is topped up before hand without taking it out of the garage.
With a gas car you might have to fight a line at the gas station, and risk driving through bad conditions.
what's stopping one from hoarding a jerry can or two of gas before the storm?
Gasoline is extremely flammable and what's stopping it from losing a bit of its contents if it's going to evaporate
have you ever actually used a jerry can? and not those plastic pieces of shit, I mean the actual metal ones
EVs will charge 24/7, moron. Not everyone is a fricking automaton like you.
You've probably never owned an EV so you can't be expected to know. But even the cheapest BEVs don't come on immediately to charge when plugged in. They have a timer so they come on at a set time, and usually the default is one or two AM. Many people who own EVs buy slightly more premium charging boxes which expand that to buy electricity when the price is at its cheapest, and sometimes the price even goes negative.
While its true that people may use public chargers at any hour of the day, that's a relatively small amount of EV charging, and isn't going to stand out when compared to other demand.
Actually for public fast chargers that have a battery pack, they will be charging over a much longer time, but they also include support for buying electricity to charge that bank up when electricity is the cheapest.
Anon, there are 275 Million cars in the USA. Replace every one of them with EV and they are all going to start charging at the same time. Yeah, thats not going to work. The electrical grid is shit, out dated and quite nearly maxed out as it is, without a couple hundred million electrical cars.
Oil refineries consume 3-5kwh of electricy for every gallon of fuel produced, and they consume that energy 24/7 with no regard to demand,as their power contracts are in monthly terms, with no regard for time...
5kwh is enough to drive an average electric car 25 miles.
This is a common thing I notice amongst EVgays. That they say “it’s so much cheaper, just charge during low-demand hours!” It never clicks WHY those hours are low-demand; it’s because they’re the only person on their block charging their EV. What happens when everyone has an EV? It’s no longer ‘low-demand’ hours.
>275 Million cars in the USA. Replace every one of them with EV
Instantly? Yes there might be a problems, but its actually less of a problem than all the houses and buildings with air conditioning. Its not that hard to shift EV demand when typical use patterns only require charging for 1-2 hours a day.
Over the next 30 years? Its not really an issue at all, especially as BEVs become more efficient. Greater efficiency, means less draw on the grid.
>The electrical grid is shit, out dated and quite nearly maxed out as it is,
Yes, it needs to be upgraded anyway, but its not 'maxed out'. its optimized around typical needs because without a way to store energy it doesn't really make sense to generate way more electricity than you need.
If ways to store grid energy get rolled out, (hint: BEVs are one) then it becomes easier to generate more clean energy either nuclear or hydroelectric base load or when supply of renewable energy is available, and shift it to when peak demand is.
>It never clicks WHY those hours are low-demand;
Because even if everyone has an EV, that demand in the middle of the night is still not going to equal the demand in the middle of the day, and its an easier problem to solve than issues that arise when everybody today tries to go to the gas station at once.
I love America.
I drive an American car.
Powered by American gas.
Propelled by a 305 cu V8.
I refuse to ride in a car that finances Chinese mining.
LA will cease to exist soon. No water and they just turned down Poseidon Water's Desal plant because of muh hekkin environment. Water wars soon boys.
>Poseidon Water
frick when will they become poseidon energy
i want euclid's c-finder dammit, even if it's just glorified artillery
I'd wish to live in a country where people from LA are captured and deported back to LA so they can't shit the rest of the US, same thing with NY and Chicago. You Black folk created this hell, go live in there
Why does it look like there is a giant wizard standing on the top of the building on the right, holding a staff?
That's a crane.
I do see how it looks like a wizard though.
Frick off Chang
Go home ling-ling.
>EV troony COPE continues
Its OVER! Tesla is FINISHED! Their cars are dead!
Oh wait, its just a 2 minute update.
Update this, homosexual shill.
>some random screenshot
Wow proof of something something
>no rebuttal
Thought so.
back to /n/i/g/ger
It's just the automotive version of that Oklahoma or wherever bill mandating vasectomies. I can really tell most of you are thirty something.
unless free gas pumps are built alongside
And who do these dumbass redneck politicians think is going to pay for that? Surely not the poor mom and pop petroleum companies
homie please, the government spends money on moronic bullshit all the time and just prints more money anyways. Suddenly, when it’s actually useful, the line is crossed?
While correct, that's not what these lawmakers are proposing. It would never matter regardless, because these mega corporations allot billions for buying off lawmakers to ensure something like that would never even be included in any legislation, such as this dogshit proposal in the OP. These people are legislating out of pure spite, because that's what plays well with a growing subset of traditionally conservative people who vote in today's political climate. It's asinine.
The point isnt to build more gas pumps. The point is to stop building more ev chargers.
This is just moronic and wasting taxpayer money to destroy existing infrastructure. Just put a fee for use on the chargers and be done with it.
>my area got a bunch of free chargers at stores, apartment complexes, etc
>recent influx of inner city youth due to affordable (see Section 8) housing built nearby
>charges keep getting broken and overall vandalized by Black folk
>cars plugged into the chargers get unplugged and people have even had super glue squirted into their charging ports
If you live in an area and hear there's going to be "affordable housing" built nearby, sell your house, and fricking run.
Yeah, section 8 nukes communities.
Thank frick all the section 8 housing in my town is just poor old people. The renovation of poorer area's drove all the Black folk out.
There's some new section 8 housing popping up in this area so I quit my job and went back to school so my tax stub for last year says my income is right within the threshold, then I returned to my job this year with a raise and will be saving basically an extra 500 bucks a month for the year before the housing becomes unlivable.
That feel when we need more affordable housing in America as housing costs way outpace average income levels
Then people who primarily live in affordable housing systems destroy the community
How does Russia do it? They are one of the only places i've seen those huge apartment style buildings where people don't seem to constantly destroy their own community
Fewer Black folk, and the Black folk there get dealt with. Unlike in America where we encourage their Black person behavior.
Look at the basketball sheboon whi tried to bring weed into Russia. She getting gulag.
>How does Russia do it?
all the really stupid poor people die in the cold or of cirrhosis leaving only the actual community of reasonably intelligent people.
We don't need "affordable housing" we need a housing market that disincentivises treating housing as an "investment", remembers that people need homes to live in, and that it's not meant for Tommy boomers 6th rental property or Zhang to hide his profits from the CCP.
>in 8 years they'll have to spend money to put them back when all major car companies stop selling ICE cars
kek really cutting off your dick to spite your sister
The EV pipe dream will be dead by then. The politically forced EV thing is just economic warfare against oil-producing nations.
Won't happen, EV homosexual. Go pay for your chargers.
A step in the right direction into getting rid of visual pollution, next one should be a crackdown on Black person tier wheels
What a joke of a bill.
You can't even have free air without some meth head fricking up the shrader
>free air
carry a bike pump you weak useless homosexual
Good, why should my tax money pay for someone else's energy?
that's a moronic bill and shows why the government needs to be purged
>Republicans
Of course it would be these moronic sacks of shti.
hello /news/!
>how dare you get energy for free and I don't
Conservatards are literal crabs.
>commie homosexual thinks his pipedream can work
>for free
i dont understand this
why they want to get read of free stuff with weirdness continuing with term that if petrol pumps are install beside, they will continue free charger
Its just a ridiculous law meant to scare people away from installing charging. The reason why free public charging works for businesses is that EVs cost so much less to drive a mile than gas. For free L2 chargers, if people spend an hour plugged in they might get 5.6kWh, $.64 cents worth of electricity. By the kWh that's equivalent to 15% of a gallon, by cost that's 19%. Even rounding up, for a gas car that's going to be enough gas to maybe drive a mile or two.
As a business for the letter of the law as written all I have to do to keep my free public L2 charger for customers is put out a coffee can that says "Charging $.01"
For a hotel that includes overnight charging for guests, they could just offer a gas card on request for guests for the same amount, about $5.
Honestly, its just stupid. If you have an electrical outlet for public use, do you have to tell people no if they want to plug something in now unless they pay?
leftoids and right people should agree on this
why would you subsidize luxury vehicles while the average person can't afford gas
ridiculous, full approval
I don't understand the end game of EVs, even if we solve fast charging and cost, batteries are wear items and will cost the user (avg american) a 20k replacement every 10 years.
The used market will be destroyed and the middle and lower class won't be able to afford cars. Hydrogen could work, or hybrid batteries are at least much cheaper than full EV.
head first into madness
are you implying that in 10 years half of cars produced aren't crashed?
>while posting a video of a car crashing
TOU pricing can be rapid and flexible, meaning the overall price of electricity is cheaper for everyone, and like weather.
In the future, electricity will be traded like crude oil is today.
and gas will be discarded into lakes to evaporate as was commonly done prior to engines designed to run on gas. cheap fuel for us old farts
>cars crashing
who cares?
even if that were true, a dealership replacement of prius batteries ($5K) or a tesla/BMW/etc EV ($25K+) is unimaginable for a regular person. These are companies that have scale, they just dont have an interest because their audiences can buy new.
you can already see this happening. you can't even get a tesla battery replaced outside of a dealer, who will highball you the repair then sell you a new car.
I like electric cars but don't get the endgame of full EV
The end game is that strong right to repair laws get passed.
Require that when a company removes a battery pack from a car and reuses the cells, the owner of the car the battery pack came out of is compensated at a fair rate.
Create standards that third-party replacement packs can meet for charging and safety so that individual companies do not have a monopoly.
Ban the practice of denying fast charging to cars with third-party replacement packs.
For short-range EVs that lack modern fast charging, this is already basically the standard which is why replacing a degraded 24kWh pack with a fresh 40kWh doesn't cost Leaf owners an arm and a leg.
>The end game is that strong right to repair laws get passed.
Agree but nobody talks about this
>Require that when a company removes a battery pack from a car and reuses the cells, the owner of the car the battery pack came out of is compensated at a fair rate.
Where'd you get this idea? I'd like to see how much that compensates the cost, getting back $1k on a $25K, or, suppose a $9K battery is irrelevant no matter the scale. You would rather send your children out in the $2K immortal Camry.
>Create standards that third-party replacement packs can meet for charging and safety so that individual companies do not have a monopoly.
Standards can easily create monopolies although they are necessary. There are a dozen hybrid battery replacement options for toyota hybrids, you can even change battery chemistries and architectures (Prismatic to Cylindrical, Nickle Cad to Lithium). It's very hairy atm. I have a hybrid and replaced it myself.
>Ban the practice of denying fast charging to cars with third-party replacement packs.
Sure
Still don't see a way to do EV mandates without absolutely roasting the middle class and our kids
posting thick lexus hybrid
>Where'd you get this idea?
From the Leaf battery upgrade industry where paying the owner for their old pack is the common practice.
The old pack gets taken out of the car, the casing gets used to make a new refurbished battery, and the old battery modules get placed into home energy storage solutions.
Meanwhile the Leaf owner is then sold a third-party replacement battery for about $4000 with a little bit of hardware to make that larger battery work in their car.
>I'd like to see how much that compensates the cost,
EV batteries generally get replaced when they're at about 70% capacity.
With batteries at $100 a kWh degraded 24kWh Leaf packs are worth about $1700.
Everything included, a Leaf battery upgrade generally costs between $2500 and $3000.
Still not cheap, but not world ending, especially for new EVs with packs expected to last longer than the life of the vehicle.
Battery swaps are likely to go from a thing that people need to do, to something enthusiasts do to lighten their car, increase its power, or give it more range.
>Still don't see a way to do EV mandates without absolutely roasting the middle class and our kids
Short range BEVs are increasingly cheaper new than gas cars. PHEVs can be about the same or only a little more. Long range BEVs still come at a premium price.
If newer cheaper batteries at higher densities continue to come to market those prices will continue to fall. LFP batteries already made sub $30k 60kWh cars possible.
Next-generation dual chemistry packs like the ones being made by Our Next Energy could bring that down further.
Remember the EV mandates are directed at the major automotive manufacturers, not the general public. Nobody is requiring everyone to buy new long range electric vehicles.
As the percentage of new EVs sold increases, so will the supply of used EVs, and they will percolate out into the broader used market.
Imagine that tomorrow every gas and diesel pump were replaced with an electric fast charger, and every car and truck were replaced by an electric car and truck.
Think of the lines at the station even if you weren't recharging every 150 miles. Even if it's "only" 20 minutes to charge 80% or whatever. That'll still take forever waiting for a spot. What if someone wants to charge to 100% because they have a road trip?