I see a lot of people buying SUVs or crossovers over sedans and hatchbacks due to off road capabilities
However the only offroad they tackle might probably be the roads on rally racing. If this is the case why do they prefer crossovers and suvs when rally racing is done on hatchbacks and sedans?
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It's done on those cars because they're faster, lighter, and give more responsive control to a trained driver. To your average karen driving, going off road on a sedan just means a much worse ride quality. Not to mention these rally cars are purpose built and need a lot of maintenance, going off road with low ground clearance might frick some things up.
Not sure if I just replied to bait.
Not bait. You said worse ride quality. Isnt a car thathas lower ground clearance provide better comfort to the rider over higher ground clearance? I mean I'm comparing what if a daily sedan has AWD or 4WD can it be a better alternative over an SUV or crossover?
By daily sedan I mean an econo budget sedan or hatchback then have AWD or 4WD
Most people aren’t going to daily an econo budget sedan/hatch. The daily is the most important car one owns as it is driven the most.
>It's done on those cars because they're faster, lighter, and give more responsive control to a trained driver.
>trained driver.
Thread over
Crossovers have zero capability off-road - none.
As someone with a V8 sports car and a V8 SUV there are 10x more uses for knobby tires, high ground clearance and good approach and departure in a given week.
So is a 90s evolution AWD better at offroading than a modern crossover ?
What about a modern civic and have it AWD?
Neither of them are off-roading, both have generally the same ground clearance and horrid approach/departure angles.
iirc Evos have full time AWD and LSDs at least in the rear (some models have front too) so it would be better.
>I see a lot of people buying SUVs or crossovers over sedans and hatchbacks due to off road capabilities
No one's buying them for offroad capabilities
I don’t know anyone that has purchased a suv or crossover for off road. They buy them for cargo space, wet/ice traction, and a higher seating position.
If thats the case why are they doming out with 4wd and awd crossovers and suvs.
There’s been like 1 new SUV introduced in the last 10 years, it’s a nearly dead segment.
Yes but crossovers are booming segment. Sedans are pretty much dead already.
Ticking the AWD option in a crossover is like ticking the type of rims you want on the option sheet for women. It’s nothing more than a badge. It doesn’t have the pretense of off-road capability, it doesn’t add anything that the appropriate tires would add alone to its capability in a given weather situation.
Same goes for AWD cars (ignoring 600HP+ where 325 rears can’t put everything to the ground)
Look at the ruts on the right side of the picture, there’s not a single stock crossover on the market that isn’t going to drag. A dedicated custom rally car might handle it depending on the amount of lift.
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Mostly agree. Subaru crossovers (Crosstrek and outback) are actually good at offroading due to the ground clearance and real AWD.
People like sitting higher but won't take the truck pill.
SUVs aren't 1 bit more practical offroad than any other AWD shitbox on street tires. frick, many of them aren't even AWD. it's just complete morons that think a 2 inch lift means they can climb over rocks now. And even if they could it wouldn't be anything but a larp because none of them ever leave the road.
tl;dr SUV homosexuals are braindead
AWD cars can’t handle even the most basic path to my summer beach
Can rally cars handle them?
This car will unironically beat those crossovers in that terrain. Only reason to get a crossover is more space.
actual offroading(tm) is severely gay and involves going to dedicated offroad areas that are basically like going to a track and not the go anywhere larp people claim that doesnt actually exist
people buy suvs and crossovers so they can plow through a foot of snow like it doesnt exist on all season tires and have a comfy ride on terrible roads
these are actual daily use cases that matter to real people vs racing on a dirt road or bouncing around on rocks at 2mph
Not all of us live in the city, sissiboi. I have to go across paths that you would never make it down on a weekly basis. Never once been to a ‘dedicated area’, bet you can’t say the same about going to a track.
Yeah I track my S2k
I track my prius
So ride height is the only reason to buy a crossover over a sedan?
It's way the frick easier loading shit into a big hatch than it is trying to fit shit into a trunk.
>and not the go anywhere larp people claim that doesnt actually exist
thats a government problem not a car problem
>so they can plow through a foot of snow
This is. What crossovergays actually believe. Drove a WRX through 18 inches of snow and had no problems. With an suv or crossovers you just have worse braking and less control.
Those people don't like to have fun and if they drove as fast as you or I do, their high center of gravity car would tip over in a curve
Off-road you say?
because rally racing is bred out of a very specific subset of race culture that originated in early "rally" events of departing and navigating to a preset end point via public roads that are sometimes not paved
i love rally but face it no rally car can go truly "off road" they require a specific race surface just as much a dedicated track car
I've taken my Civic on a few fire roads and trails. Wouldn't recommend it.
I will get a 4Runner one day.
>FWD
Get a sedan with AWD
Frick off, I know how to drive. My Civic see's more snow that most Subarus ever will
Front drive never once the issue. Issue is ground clearance and suspension
>implying normalgays know what rallying is
the thought process stops at "big + high clearance = offroad"
Thread is stupid as frick, considering cars, rally cars included, get stuck on fricking grass and uneven dirt roads.