so whats the deal with electric power steering? is it based or is it just something thats gonna break in 5 years and cost 10k to replace?
is there even any new cars WITHOUT electric power steering and that still have hydraulic ps?
so whats the deal with electric power steering?
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corr would love to spaff inside him
That is a man.
That is AI drawn
If anything hydraulic is less reliable and more expensive to fix
>so whats the deal with electric power steering?
its shite
>is it based or is it just something thats gonna break in 5 years and cost 10k to replace?
the latter, and when it breaks it might steer your car into a wall for you going 120 kmh and/or break your arms trying to hold the steering wheel in place
>is there even any new cars WITHOUT electric power steering and that still have hydraulic ps?
no, some new cars even have steer by wire, no connection between the steering wheel and the tires. if the 0.05$ plastic clip connecting the wires breaks you might lose all steering, but don't worry because new cars are all gigantic steel eggs with airbags everywhere so you won't die in the crash
>If anything hydraulic is less reliable and more expensive to fix
wrong
It's literally just an electric motor that assists the steering rack instead of a hydraulic pump. Stop being a melodramatic baby. It gives you less feedback than a hydraulic system, that's about it
>hydraulic pump breaks down
>the car is harder to steer now
>electric motor malfunctions
>steers your car randomly without input, causing you to crash
whoops that will be 2000$ plus tip to fix hehe
hydraulics are not immune to malfunctions. one valve sticking open or one seal failing is all it takes to send the rack to full lock. cars are dangerous. get a bicycle
that's not how power steering works, dumbass
He's correct describing how it might malfunction
What are the stats on EPAS malfunction causing swerving crashes?
You are assuming the power steering fails simply by cutting the power instead of forcing the car to "stay on lane", like modern cars are programmed to do. Even it's just a power failure, depending on how it happens then it's VERY possible for the anti theft steering lock to be activated, which binds the steering wheel completely.
Better hope you are not driving a bmw m3 in the wet...
>leaks
Fluid is cheap
Hydraulics is not, but bearable, and can usually be repaired/remanufactured
Power electronics is not and it costs a fortune to replace
this
>is there even any new cars WITHOUT electric power steering and that still have hydraulic ps?
McLaren is the last brand hydraulic power steering. electric pump instead of belt driven though.
>McLaren is the last brand hydraulic power steering. electric pump instead of belt driven though.
What does the Elva use?
> The Elva features a full-time suspension and an electro-hydraulic steering to improve handling.
TITI
no ps is the meta
less weigh and less parts to break
No you don't understand, electric power steering is horrible because you lose any feeling of the road through the wheel. Ignore the fact most modern performance vehicles use electric power steering anyway.
i know how horrible electric ps is
i said no power steering at all is the best choice
best road feel most reliable system
I'll be honest, my post was dripping with sarcasm.
i might be an autist
sarcasm is wasted on me
I have driven cars with electric steering, they are ok if you don't worry about glowies hacking your shit and driving you into a tree.
ITT: people that are correct except this
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just saw a vid of an m3 that stopped steering in the middle of a lap on the ring. They had to pull over to reset lol. I am sure they will make it work but for now if you have a choice stay away from it.
Brushless motors are some of the most reliable components you can put in a car. That doesn't mean it's going to feel good, just that it's going to be reliable. You can make it feel good, like Alfa Romeo and Rover have managed, but you can also make it feel like shit, like BMW and Infiniti
electric power steering is a lot more reliable.
and a much better design
its essentially a manual rack with power assist.
you can replace the motor on it, similar to a starter
>first bmw with electric power steering.
How unsurprising.
Here's an Opel:
Or some asiaticshit:
my logitech G29 at 3am
>using windows
>drive by wire is better, they said
It's not even drive by wire
>is there even any new cars WITHOUT electric power steering and that still have hydraulic ps?
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