What a great car and a shame that a clean one is getting more rare/expensive.

What a great car and a shame that a clean one is getting more rare/expensive.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >great car
    it's mid bruh.
    the suspension is all wacky.
    (see the A-Arm bushings)
    ABS doesn't work correctly if you put any tire with any amount of grip.
    engine is not slow, but not really fast either.
    looks are 'meh'
    car isn't easy to work on.

    wouldn't say it's bad, but not really good either

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >mid bruh
      You must be 18 or older to post here
      >suspension is wacky
      Doesn't matter how annoyed you are with routine maintenance, there are cars with worse service procedures that wear components faster
      >ABS doesn't work correctly if...
      Why aren't you threshold braking to begin with?
      >engine is not slow but not very fast
      We're talking about a sports car from 20 years ago. Of course grass is green.
      >car isn't easy to work on
      Again, its not horrible to work on either. Sure its not a miata, but there's stuff thats easy and stuff thats hard on it. The good thing is z's are pretty reliable and its not often you're replacing anything huge

      I would say compared to what its contemporaries were like, and what choices we have now, its good. The 370z is just objectively better

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's a pretty good car, you have to bear in mind they were built at a price point of $30,000 dollars or the equivalent of $45-50,000 today and they were about as fast as Evos and STIs of that period, which were remarkable cars.

        I saw the gears and gasoline 350z build and it sold me on them. They have great steering feel and can be dead reliable compared to turbo cars. And the engine is "just right" it has more horsepower than the middleweight cars (S2000, E36M/E46/E92, RX8, Newer Miatas) but not a ton that'll break shit when you run it hard.

        I'm glad DA hates Nissans because between Z33s and Z34s I have 20 years of sub-3500lbs N/A FR Sports Cars to choose from

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it's obvious you've never actually modified and raced any of the Z cars you fricking dumb ass.
        the A-Arm bushing designs are horrible.
        also,
        you don't threshold break ABS systems.
        people who only brake in a straight line are Fricking slow as hell.
        That's where the 350/370z ABS sucks.
        it can't handle performance 200tw tires or any kind of trail braking.
        But the worst part of it is the ABS will just randomly work and then randomly not.
        some of the best motoring toge battles have had Z car crashes from that stupid ABS.
        that's why people swap the E46 ABS into Z cars.

        I wouldn't call it a bad car but, as the kids say; it's MID.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >threshold braking on a car with ABS
        go on, my dear internet tough guy, tell us how you can threshold brake on a car with hypersensitive ABS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the suspension is all wacky
      double wishbone front, multilink rear
      a.k.a the best possible suspension geometry

      >looks are 'meh'
      it's one of the best designs of the last 40 years

      >car isn't easy to work on
      it is, but a wrenchlet wouldn't know

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the best possible suspension geometry
        but does it then equal the best possible suspension?

        People don't buy 80s-00s jdm cars because they're looking for the best performance. They're buying them because it's cars they grew up wanting but couldn't afford as a high school/college student. And now they can because they have a big boy job now. Except all the people who could afford them back then raped them.
        It's no question that cars made in the past 10 years are much faster and capable

        tl;dr, it's something zoomers wouldn't understand.

        lol no
        no one cared about the 350/370z, it was always supra, m3, gt-r, etc.
        the only reason they're even discussed is because they're so unpopular, they can be had now for cheap as budget entry level cars

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >no one cared about the 350/370z, it was always supra, m3, gt-r, etc.
          You're either a zoomer or you were very disconnected from actual car culture in the 00s.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People don't buy 80s-00s jdm cars because they're looking for the best performance. They're buying them because it's cars they grew up wanting but couldn't afford as a high school/college student. And now they can because they have a big boy job now. Except all the people who could afford them back then raped them.
      It's no question that cars made in the past 10 years are much faster and capable

      tl;dr, it's something zoomers wouldn't understand.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    people hate on the 370z but I think it looks much better

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the 370z is significantly better than the 350z in every way:
      >better engine
      >less weight
      >more reliable
      >MUCH nicer interior
      >subjectively better aesthetics e.g.
      Now that models that are about as clean as each other are going for the same price, there's no reason to get a 350z anymore

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I always thought they were ugly like the audi tt

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's the next car people are going to miss out on and then claim is awesome sauce?
    NC Miata E82?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly that's about all thats left.

      Gen 1 BRZ/86 when they get cheap enough
      N52 328i/330i if you're okay with a car weighing 3300-3400lbs and starting at 200-210whp
      Fiesta STs are getting cheap used too.
      S197 Mustangs aren't as bad as people made them out to be and S550s are still expensive

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ND Miatas: Great looking and fun little cars with relatively low sales figures (~70k). The NB and NC are the least desirable and you can already see NA prices edging up. I think ND will be looked back on with the same fondness as the NA, but with 1/5th the sales volume.
      >BMW 2 series: The steering feel is awful and it has a stupid delay valve on the clutch pedal, but it's better than a lot of cars coming out these days and is cheap enough where many will get trashed. I sold mine awhile ago and it's worth $10k more already.
      Toyota 86: Good, cheap, fun car. This combination means kids will trash 90% of them and the few that remain will be expensive.
      Generall I think lightweight sports cars and certain expensive cars maintain their value because car weights are like inflation (it only goes up), so you have to buy older cars to get light weight. Pigfat cars generally don't maintain value, because why buy old when you can get a new one with more horsepower, better laptimes, and a warranty?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        NBs imo are as desirable as NA. They're cashing hard in on the cute factor that's missed by NCs, and often cost as much as a decent NC1 which is a little silly because everything on a 2004-5 NB 1.8 VVT swaps onto a 1990 NA 1.6 and vice versa. 86s have fragile engines so what's left is gonna go up, I actually don't think they hold up that well to hardcore track use, even the FA20s.

        The BMWs aren't gonna hold value because N55s like to self destruct and get expensive with high miles. B58 Gen 1 cars like M2/340i might be better.

        Most cars go through major price dumps when they get too old to be financed at a reasonable price and most dealers stop buying/selling them. The first price drop ofc being when the factory warranty ends and most lease cars are returned to the dealer.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not really. It's basically S15 silvia performance but fatter, uglier, and egg-shaped. Also, the 370z is better and clean ones are still plentiful.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      350/70z have a wishbone front end, Silvia are McPherson. VQ is more reliable than SR.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >uglier
        ignored this point
        >fatter
        1240kg vs 1640kg
        ignored this one too
        >egg-shaped
        didn't even try, lmao

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Using the lightest possible S15 spec vs the heaviest Z33 spec

          Z33s were usually 1450kg. It was the love child of Mizuno just like the GTRs and Silvias were. Why wouldn't it be better than the older cars? Nissan tested the Z33 faster than the R34 GTR during development.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you're gonna have a hard time finding anyone who thinks the z33 is a better car than the s15 or the 34gtr and I hate silvias.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Honestly if they were both brand new cars I would agree. But 20 years later, you can buy five Z33s in better condition to every S15 Spec R. And the 350Z is going to be way less rustier and being way more reliable because SR20s break often when you abuse them and the sheetmetal in R34/S15s is worse than even the older cars. The way some fanboys act you would think they're talking about the worst car on the planet, even though the same guy designed and engineered all three cars

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Holy cope batman. The z33 can be in as good a condition as it likes it's still a mediocre, unremarkable, utterly forgettable car that nobody cares about. It's too fat and non-turbo to be good at what the s15 does and it's not half the car the 34 gtr is. The same guy might have been involved but they're built for different goals.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This is the nip that designed the Z33. If you call the Z33 unremarkable then you're also calling the GTR and Silvia unremarkable, both his creations. Hes not going to make the new car slower than the older car.

            More Zs for me.

            SR20s are shit anyways, go spin a rod bearing or break a rocker, overrated meme engine that you can't even find anymore second hand cause they all blew the frick up.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            We've been over this I hate silvias and the same guy being involved in all 3 cars doesn't make the z33 a good car. The s15 and gtr had a purpose the z33 is just a parts-bin bean-counter car that disappointed the frick out of everyone especially Z fans.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Holy cope batman. The z33 can be in as good a condition as it likes it's still a mediocre, unremarkable, utterly forgettable car that nobody cares about. It's too fat and non-turbo to be good at what the s15 does and it's not half the car the 34 gtr is. The same guy might have been involved but they're built for different goals.

            We've been over this I hate silvias and the same guy being involved in all 3 cars doesn't make the z33 a good car. The s15 and gtr had a purpose the z33 is just a parts-bin bean-counter car that disappointed the frick out of everyone especially Z fans.

            seething really hard, where did you get gapped by a 350Z?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >>egg-shape

          Completely Subjective, I actually like the Egg design language as it’s reminiscent of Audi TT / Porsche 993. It’s peak “Gen X Soft Club” aesthetic.

          https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Gen_X_Soft_Club

          >fatter
          Weight will increase with a more sophisticated suspension type and with increased body rigidity. Safer too.

          >Nissan 350Z completed a lap of Tsukuba in 1 minute and 7.9 seconds.

          >Silvia S15 Spec R Aero finished a lap of Tsukuba in 1 minute and 7.7 seconds.

          Only 0.2 second difference between a base 350z vs a top spec S15.

          S15’s are all used up and cost a premium, 350z are cheap and plentiful still.

          Get off my board little boy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            oh wow, redditor is telling me how a 2000’s v6 being slower than 1990’s I4 is actually a good thing!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Bus rider. You must be over 18y/o to post here.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I know it's not exactly the same, but I had an 06 g35 coupe that was a pretty decent car. I always hear people claiming they're shitty cars but
    >never had a major issue or left me stranded
    >worst thing was a belt tensioner replacement, otherwise normal maintenance
    >had 220k miles when I hit a deer and smoked it
    >muffler started to rust out, but that's to be expected for the mileage
    Having staggered size tires was kind of a b***h too, but I had a winter set and summer set I'd swap out. Did surprisingly well in the midwest winters (albeit with top tier snow tires).
    Imo, the interior was far better looking than the Z. Doesn't hold the same "fast and furious tuner bro poser" stereotype either. If you keep it stock that is. I've seen plenty of Gs that have been absolutely molested/trashed.
    Maybe look for a g35 if you can't find a Z. Seems like far more Z cars have been through years of high schoolers wheeling them around by the time they end up for sale compared to Gs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My G35s(HR) and 350z (both 6spd) are nearly identical in a straight line. The Brembos are miles better in the mountain passes, but the G is 1000% more quiet & comfortable

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >v6 muscle car (Japanese) :O
    >v6 muscle car (American) >:(

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not a muscle car it's a parts-bin car thrown together by the accountants at nissan.
      It's a G35 coupe/skyline coupe with the exact same mechanicals but slightly different body styling It's fricking embarrassing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what do you think the skyline was anon

        or the silvia being the same damn car from 1989 to 2002 other than panels

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >what do you think the skyline was anon
          Is this some kind of moron question? The rb26 was only fitted to GT-Rs and aftermarket specials like the stagea autech. The skyline GT-R was built for one purpose, to win races.
          Frankly I'm puzzled why you would bring up the skyline to defend the z33 it's a losing move every time.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That just makes it a parts bin car with a special engine that you wouldn't have been able to afford brand new or even used

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >r34 gt-r is a parts bin car
            >engine and drivetrain unique to one vehicle
            uh oh moron alert.
            >you wouldn't have been able to afford brand new or even used
            33 and 32 gt-rs were cheap as dirt during the 34s run. About 15k usd or even less.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Lest we forget that the g35 was known as the skyline 350gt in Japan. Only skyline around after the r34. R35 isn't even a skyline, it's just "Nissan GTR"
            And not all skylines are GTRs.
            Now I'm not a huge fan of people putting 350gt skyline badges on g35s, but it's not wrong.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Accountants
        Lol good one.
        15 years ago it was blame the engineers. Now its blame the accountants. Stop parroting other people and think for yourself

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not a muscle car it's a parts-bin car thrown together by the accountants at nissan.
      It's a G35 coupe/skyline coupe with the exact same mechanicals but slightly different body styling It's fricking embarrassing.

      embarrassing tbqhwyfamalam

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        quarter mile times are not a denial that the z33 is a parts bin car. Z fans were expecting a new Z car but all they got was a g35 coupe/skyline coupe with uglier styling.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          camaros are great cars, but the one you posted costs 3-7 thousand more on the used market for comparable quality examples
          that's not really worth it for a marginally better time on a single track

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >within a half second of a 15 year old car
          KEK now lets see the version that doesn't cost $18k for a 5 year old base model

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            Holy shit. Am I REALLY seeing a car that can match the CHADmaro after all these years of it taking heaping shits on EVERY car in the world. Is the Z actually, legitimately a CHADMARO level car?

            >after all these gears of it taking heaping shits on every car in the world
            I think the funniest thing about the camaro is it literally was literally decades behind other cars for the longest time until the final generation where gm put their dying breath into it before canceling it after not even 10 years. Like every camaro fan here cannot be made to mention a single previous gen of the camaro for any reason, and the gen they idolize wasn't even a good car till post covid when its prices got inflated and production slowed. The best part is the irl owner base is chock full of zl1 body kit swaps on v6 rs's and people claiming a 4 cylinder camaro is a worthwhile buy

            And the funniest part is none of the owners here actually track their cars or do any form of motorsports in it despite the car being insanely capable of it. When asked, they either claim they don't have the money or have events near them

            I actually dont hate the car itself but the owners because of the stupid shit they are post on DA. GM is unironically a extremely capable car company and when the stars align they make decent cars (C4/C5 Vette, Cobalt SS Turbo, even the 5th Gen 1LE was a good car when you found them for sale) but frick the owners are annoying. Worse than shills they're just autistic moron spammers.

            >all this fricking cope and mental gymnastic because the nigsan Z can't beat a 4 cylinder camaro on all seasons despite having more power
            top kek

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Top kek is still shilling an impala powered camaro you'll never own after your ex gf was nutted in by a z driver lmao

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/5ZGPxAL.jpeg

          >within a half second of a 15 year old car
          KEK now lets see the version that doesn't cost $18k for a 5 year old base model

          Holy shit. Am I REALLY seeing a car that can match the CHADmaro after all these years of it taking heaping shits on EVERY car in the world. Is the Z actually, legitimately a CHADMARO level car?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >after all these gears of it taking heaping shits on every car in the world
            I think the funniest thing about the camaro is it literally was literally decades behind other cars for the longest time until the final generation where gm put their dying breath into it before canceling it after not even 10 years. Like every camaro fan here cannot be made to mention a single previous gen of the camaro for any reason, and the gen they idolize wasn't even a good car till post covid when its prices got inflated and production slowed. The best part is the irl owner base is chock full of zl1 body kit swaps on v6 rs's and people claiming a 4 cylinder camaro is a worthwhile buy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And the funniest part is none of the owners here actually track their cars or do any form of motorsports in it despite the car being insanely capable of it. When asked, they either claim they don't have the money or have events near them

            I actually dont hate the car itself but the owners because of the stupid shit they are post on DA. GM is unironically a extremely capable car company and when the stars align they make decent cars (C4/C5 Vette, Cobalt SS Turbo, even the 5th Gen 1LE was a good car when you found them for sale) but frick the owners are annoying. Worse than shills they're just autistic moron spammers.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Compare the new Camaro vs the 400z

    oh wait

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >no one ITT owns a Z, new edge mustang gt, i4 turbo camaro, or v6 camaro
    >yet they insist on arguing over them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's a hard fight for second place

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, okay Mr. Third Place rentastar.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you must be new here

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i havent seen a single owner who isnt a massive homosexual to begin with.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's just no reason to get a Nissan except JDM basedfacing when you can get a Boxster/Cayman for the same price.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Z and Skyline are based, Camaro is gay Barbie car trash

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The type they make in Stuttgart:
    - https://www.classic.com/m/nissan/z-car/350z/
    - https://www.classic.com/m/porsche/boxster/

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