>truck based suv pros
body on frame so it's strong, easy repair, and good offroad.
truck parts fit, so parts are cheap
truck bed, transmission, and engine so you can generally tow a lot, and use it as a truck that stuff is harder to steal out of(important in the coming era).
pickup trucks get all the above+ longer beds, but lose the interior covering unless you get a camper shell.
Biggest con?
initial cost, mpg's(compared to cars), and general running costs.
Heavier items=more wear=more cost. At least compared to your basic cheap commuter. Even then the american trucks have so many made that economy of scale for parts can counter this right the frick out.
Oh, and if you live in CA a pickup is a "commercial vehicle" so your registration costs more. Like 300 vs 150 for a suv.
BOF SUVs are charmingly crashy, effortless, and floaty all at once. My ML55 feels like a GTA 4 car and it brought memories of my old piece of shit Montero Sport.
>pros
Truck chassis and drive train so you can tow a boat or car or whatever. Often 4wd with 4 low which is good for pullint a heavy boat up a slick ramp, offroading meme or just plowing through a two of snow in your driveway and worry about shoveling later. >bad
Body on frame so interior room is compromised by frame rails. Often a log axle in the rear which requires a hump in the floor. No flat low floor like a minivan. Bad empeegees.
>pros
Truck chassis and drive train so you can tow a boat or car or whatever. Often 4wd with 4 low which is good for pullint a heavy boat up a slick ramp, offroading meme or just plowing through a two of snow in your driveway and worry about shoveling later. >bad
Body on frame so interior room is compromised by frame rails. Often a log axle in the rear which requires a hump in the floor. No flat low floor like a minivan. Bad empeegees.
>4 low which is good
To put less strain on the gearbox also >Body on frame so interior room is compromised by frame rails.
Not "compromised", it usually eats only into height. >Often a log axle in the rear
Having "log axle" in the rear is a pro: more robust, less maintenance required, repairs are cheaper >which requires a hump in the floor
Hardly. A lot of truck-based SUVs have flat floor >No flat low floor like a minivan.
Again, BoF trucks and SUVs usually don't even have the transmission tunnel because the shaft is inside the frame, not inside the cabin. Unibody cars with RWD/AWD on the other hand usually do. >Bad empeegees.
Usually comparable to the cars of similar weight. Inertia is a b***h, aero starts to matter only on the highway.
>aero starts to matter only on the highway.
Theoretical top speed of the 1980-1986 Bronco is 87 mph because it has the aerodynamics of the bastard love child between a barn and a brick.
Coupled with the fact that a Corolla is longer and you get a very twitchy vehicle at speed.
con: worse mpg compared to a SCLB truck on the same platform and less load headroom, have to share interior with things you throw in the back.
pro: can comfortably fit 7 people, can sleep in it in comfort, flat floor, better in the snow due to constant rear weight, often less abused than a truck, always has a "locking topper" so you can throw things in the back and forget about them.
I'm 6'2 180 and I fit pretty comfortably in the back of one. I wouldn't want to do a cross country trip that way but it's fine for an hour or two. I've had more room in some third rows than the second row of a Tacoma or a 4Runner. Keep in mind even with the third row up in a Burb or a Yukon XL you still have more cargo room than most crossovers. These are big vehicles.
>I wouldn't want to do a cross country trip that way but it's fine for an hour or two.
This is basically my point. If you can bear it only for an hour or two, it's not "comfortably".
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Still. Short of an actual bus it's as good as it gets and still beats the second row of some vehicles. If you switch places at every piss stop you can still have a super comfy journey.
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>still beats the second row of some vehicles
This I can agree with, but >If you switch places at every piss stop you can still have a super comfy journey.
that's not what "comfy" means
This is a highly overlooked pro. Anyone starting a business from scratch that thinks they need a truck for tools should at least consider a full size SUV. They carry marginally less than a truck with a top, aren't as raped a used van and don't have that trugggg tax
Pro:
its generally a fricking cheap way to get a half tonne truck, enclosed canopy like a van
most of them did not offer the base powertrains from their truck counterparts. A tahoe/expedition will always be a v8
Con:
heavier than a glorified minivan with less space
2500s became meme mobiles for people who haven't discovered full size vans to blow 5 figures on
The main con of truck-based SUVs for me is how few have been offered in the US in the last 10-15 years. You're basically limited to either gigantic $80k 7,000lb landbarges or meme vehicles like the Wrangler that are compromised to hell for the removable top and doors. I would've bought the hell out of a Ford Everest if they sold it here but I had to settle for a Ranger instead.
Does anybody here got a GMT800 2500 Suburban or Yukon XL? The 800 market is obviously fricked but these seem to be less effected, especially as gas prices rise. I also want one so I can avoid the 4L60E frickery. Are they worth the meme prices?
Looks pretty fricking good. Shame it costs so much.
However I never trust a freshly repainted car. Even if it was repainted it should have some age on it. Repaint to sell means it's a cheap cover meant to hide shit. By time you spent money for a job well done you invested too much to resell.
>truck based suv pros
body on frame so it's strong, easy repair, and good offroad.
truck parts fit, so parts are cheap
truck bed, transmission, and engine so you can generally tow a lot, and use it as a truck that stuff is harder to steal out of(important in the coming era).
pickup trucks get all the above+ longer beds, but lose the interior covering unless you get a camper shell.
Biggest con?
initial cost, mpg's(compared to cars), and general running costs.
Heavier items=more wear=more cost. At least compared to your basic cheap commuter. Even then the american trucks have so many made that economy of scale for parts can counter this right the frick out.
Oh, and if you live in CA a pickup is a "commercial vehicle" so your registration costs more. Like 300 vs 150 for a suv.
BOF SUVs are charmingly crashy, effortless, and floaty all at once. My ML55 feels like a GTA 4 car and it brought memories of my old piece of shit Montero Sport.
>mercedes in the driveway
>bars on the windows
yup, its third world time
truck good
truck based SUV more good
I fricking love those fricking older gm's as well, they are so fricking cool
Pro: more off road accessories available
Con: frame takes space, less roomy for size of vehicle
spotted the two gay homosexual nancyboys
>pros
Truck chassis and drive train so you can tow a boat or car or whatever. Often 4wd with 4 low which is good for pullint a heavy boat up a slick ramp, offroading meme or just plowing through a two of snow in your driveway and worry about shoveling later.
>bad
Body on frame so interior room is compromised by frame rails. Often a log axle in the rear which requires a hump in the floor. No flat low floor like a minivan. Bad empeegees.
The Element is unfathomably based but it's a unibody, silly goose.
That's why it has a low floor like a minivan.
that would be very cool if i was 5'5
>4 low which is good
To put less strain on the gearbox also
>Body on frame so interior room is compromised by frame rails.
Not "compromised", it usually eats only into height.
>Often a log axle in the rear
Having "log axle" in the rear is a pro: more robust, less maintenance required, repairs are cheaper
>which requires a hump in the floor
Hardly. A lot of truck-based SUVs have flat floor
>No flat low floor like a minivan.
Again, BoF trucks and SUVs usually don't even have the transmission tunnel because the shaft is inside the frame, not inside the cabin. Unibody cars with RWD/AWD on the other hand usually do.
>Bad empeegees.
Usually comparable to the cars of similar weight. Inertia is a b***h, aero starts to matter only on the highway.
>aero starts to matter only on the highway.
Theoretical top speed of the 1980-1986 Bronco is 87 mph because it has the aerodynamics of the bastard love child between a barn and a brick.
Coupled with the fact that a Corolla is longer and you get a very twitchy vehicle at speed.
>SUVs have flat floor
Why would I want to remove a seat from my SUV if I can fold it
Back of a seat isn't the floor.
It is if you walk over or put stuff on it, it's flat and rigid enough and is made for that specific purpose.
con: worse mpg compared to a SCLB truck on the same platform and less load headroom, have to share interior with things you throw in the back.
pro: can comfortably fit 7 people, can sleep in it in comfort, flat floor, better in the snow due to constant rear weight, often less abused than a truck, always has a "locking topper" so you can throw things in the back and forget about them.
>can comfortably fit 7 people
But 3rd row in Suburban is for manlets/children
I'm 6'2 180 and I fit pretty comfortably in the back of one. I wouldn't want to do a cross country trip that way but it's fine for an hour or two. I've had more room in some third rows than the second row of a Tacoma or a 4Runner. Keep in mind even with the third row up in a Burb or a Yukon XL you still have more cargo room than most crossovers. These are big vehicles.
>I wouldn't want to do a cross country trip that way but it's fine for an hour or two.
This is basically my point. If you can bear it only for an hour or two, it's not "comfortably".
Still. Short of an actual bus it's as good as it gets and still beats the second row of some vehicles. If you switch places at every piss stop you can still have a super comfy journey.
>still beats the second row of some vehicles
This I can agree with, but
>If you switch places at every piss stop you can still have a super comfy journey.
that's not what "comfy" means
>often less abused than a truck
This is a highly overlooked pro. Anyone starting a business from scratch that thinks they need a truck for tools should at least consider a full size SUV. They carry marginally less than a truck with a top, aren't as raped a used van and don't have that trugggg tax
>previous owner was mexican/mom
Yeah I love factory fluids and 25k oil changes
Pro:
its generally a fricking cheap way to get a half tonne truck, enclosed canopy like a van
most of them did not offer the base powertrains from their truck counterparts. A tahoe/expedition will always be a v8
Con:
heavier than a glorified minivan with less space
2500s became meme mobiles for people who haven't discovered full size vans to blow 5 figures on
The main con of truck-based SUVs for me is how few have been offered in the US in the last 10-15 years. You're basically limited to either gigantic $80k 7,000lb landbarges or meme vehicles like the Wrangler that are compromised to hell for the removable top and doors. I would've bought the hell out of a Ford Everest if they sold it here but I had to settle for a Ranger instead.
Does anybody here got a GMT800 2500 Suburban or Yukon XL? The 800 market is obviously fricked but these seem to be less effected, especially as gas prices rise. I also want one so I can avoid the 4L60E frickery. Are they worth the meme prices?
What's the point? Whatever you have in the back will get wet in the rain or blown away in the wind
>this is considered a 10/10 on DA
Metallic blue, tan interior, 4WD 2 door with the 350? Yeah, I'm erect.
Looks pretty fricking good. Shame it costs so much.
However I never trust a freshly repainted car. Even if it was repainted it should have some age on it. Repaint to sell means it's a cheap cover meant to hide shit. By time you spent money for a job well done you invested too much to resell.
I don't think it's a repaint.
not even a burger but you're a poof if you don't like something like this
holy fricking shit, that is so fricking beautiful
>this is something you used to be able to buy brand new right off the line