What was the first Japanese supercar?
And before you say Toyota 2000GT... No, it was a sports car/ grand tourer. Had an engine in the front, thus it doesn't fit the definition of a super car.
A super car must have a mid mounted engine and must be performance oriented
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MR2
MR2 was a budget sports car, wouldn't dare to call it a supercar lol
>Budget sports car
>still smokes modern Porsches on the track
Thats not what I am arguing about, a diesel hatchback could outrun a Lamborghini Miura, doesn't make it a supercar
you say that but remember the NSX didn't come with a lot of power either. So the key difference is appearance so you may as well be a ferrari or lambo zoomer gay.
The NSX wasn't a supercar. Good god, that thing was so underwhelming and overpriced. It's basically a mid-engine GT86, or a Honda MR2 with a V6 instead of a 4+turbo. More overpriced car ever made.
Japan has never made a supercar.
>sports car
These were not sports cars either
Incorrect in both points
Also incorrect
>wikipedia
May as well get your info from some guy in a bar
>Corvette isn't a sports car
Correct
>it's a supercar
Incorrect
Glad I could help
based Barbie scooting around in her supercar. She always had good taste.
>She always had good taste.
I mean sure, wo en buy cars based on looks, like the sporty styling of the gm.
Lets be honest, it was never a real sports car though, let alone a supercar.
Are you seriously going to act like Barbie isn't a top racing driver?
That doesn't necessarily imply she is a driver, she could be a grid girl or holding out a water bottle for the driver
She is literally holding a helmet with a duct for air from the race car, no grid girl or water bottle holder would have a helmet like that. Seethe/cope/dilate, Barbie is a based race car driver that chooses the best supercar as a daily.
shes at best Danica Patrick, crashes every race and knows nothing about cars.
She probably borrowed the helmet from Ken, or she is carrying it to him.
Lets be honest, she can't even park the hairdressers gm she drives, so where did the trophy come from?
Attendance award?
Nice pic in the C5, best Corvette ever made. She's laying back in orgasm about how good that car is, true American Supercar driven by a racing champion. Based.
NSX?
Maybe, but it had a rather lackluster engine and was oriented for everyday driving. It sits right between a sportscar/supercar for me
But anon... the 2000GT had a mid mounted engine.
FD RX7
>exotic styling
>unique engine
>incredible sound
>mid engine :^)
Nope, engine in the front
confirmed for not knowing anything about cars
hur dur the engine is FRONT "mid" engine. If the driver sits behind it its not fricking mid engine full stop
Malding moron
>NOOOOOOOOO!!! YOU HAVE TO LIKE THE FD JUST BECAUSE, OK!!!!!
You talk like a homosexual and your shits all moronic
>all of this seething over being called moronic
By your definitions what was the first supercar at all?
And what were the prominent supercars during the late 60s?
Ive heard people call the 930 the first supercar which you may or may not agree with but its up there
or chevy corvair lol
So what were the supercars of the 60s? Just the 911 then?
911 in the 60s was not a supercar
930 isn't mid engine
The Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale was the first "supercar"
>alpha
Not really a supercar though
Widely agreed first supercar was Lamborghini Miura, so I am going with that
What about the Ferrari 500 which came before the Miura with an equally fast top speed?
Was that a supercar?
Do you mean the Formula 2 car?
Ferrari 500 superfast
No wiki page in english that I could find, but from what I see, the engine is in the front and it seems to be a grand tourer by design, so it shouldn't qualify
thats just a hot rodded superamerica
these cars were large GTs aimed the US market hence the name
My brain says NSX Type R but my heart says MR2 turbo.
>It's an 'The Internet argues over vague semantics' Episode
cry about it :^)
What moronic fricking definition of supercar do you have?
Supercars do not need to be rear engine, they're sports cars with higher performance and distinguished from GTs in that they compromise driver/passenger comfort for performance
Must be rear engine, performance oriented car. Basically no compromises, engine in front is a compromise. Basing this mostly on Miura. Doesn't help that supercar is not well defined thing
>engine in the front to more easily achieve a 50/50 balance as well as easier and cheaper production installation and maintenance is compromise
>Smooth brain know nothing that thinks it's as simple as 50/50 gud
>50/50 is bad because... it just is ok!!!
50/50 isn't bad, but ideally you'd want a slight rear weight distribution.
I’d prefer more weight over the tires that should actually be putting power on the ground but to each their own
Well it's settled then. A fwd car with 70f/30r weight distribution is a paragon of performance.
>hurr durr engine can't be in front
so what is the F12B then moron
Another Barbie supercar
Its a grand tourer for sure.
A Ferrari sports car lmao
The Miura didn't come wth racing buckets, 5-point harness, and a rollcage. Due to those compromises I officially label the Miura as a mid-engine GT car.
Are you conufsing a supercar with a race car?
Digits
No, the poster earlier stated that a supercar has no compromises. They didn't include full safety equipment in the car, which is a compromise. I would have to add those things if I wanted to use the car for its intended purpose. Also, the Miura has a transverse engine with a shared gearbox in the sump. Can a supercar really have the same engine layout as an Austin MINI?
In fact, no compromises were made, they released their masterpiece exactly as intended.
Some people are just notcultured enough to know the difference.
Seethe. It was never intended for sport use and it shares engine design with a MINI.
NOT
A
SUPERCAR
Kek.
You are exactly proving my point.
>no racing policy
>road car
Exactly right.
Not a race car, a supercar.
You haven't read this whole thread, have you anon.
So no Ferraris or McLarens are supercars either?
>with higher performance
Higher performance than what?
Than regular sports cars
Wait, does that make the Pontiac Fiero a supercar?
Would be cool, but it has compromises for performance, such as using a weak engine and being budget friendly
Only because GM is a bunch of cucks who didn't want it competing with muh Corvette
They were not really marketed at the same targeted demographic. The fiero was for teen girls, like the miata, or mr2. The corvette was aimed at a slightly older woman.
Nowadays with onlyfans simps, young girls just buy the corvette.
>a supercar MUST be mid engine
so the carrera GT isnt a super car then?
Carrera GT is rear mid engine car, it is a supercar
>rear mid
Black person you best be trolling at this point
dunno about first but mid 90s accords, civics, camrys and corollas are supercars in that abuse and neglect only seems to make them grow stronger
lexus lfa
Probably the Dome-O.
*pic
Excellent choice.
It looks so good, to bad it was just a concept.
That not really a supercar though, its more like a small batch mr2
OP is literally moronic or trolling everyone.
>flagship model within a vehicle manufacturer's line-up of sports cars
Oh, so that dude was right, my Corvette isn't a sports car, it's a supercar. Cool.
>Commonly=always
Esl?
>Autistic
So what, you edited Wikepedia to match your seething. Don't care, still a supercar.
Seethe in your cuckbox, eurogay
Yikes, you sure are stupid.
forgot to say: Seethe
Ignore the nod and focus on the mocking laugh.
so technically my NA miata is a super car since it was eunos' first sports car. I don't know any thing about the 100 and 300 though they came out same year.
Thats not a sports car either anon
>has a spec race series
>Most owners use them on spirited drives
sounds like a sports car to me.
>has a spec race series
So do lawnmowers, you could say that for just about any car.
>spirited drives
That really is a meaningless, throwaway cliche.
You could drive any car however you like, it doesn't magically transform it into something it's not.
Its like a man that dresses as a woman.
those lawnmower boys do a lot to their rides for races, hardly spec as there are multiple manufacturers.
>he doesn't try to low key kill him self on the pass.
>pretending Eunos is a real brand when it was a Mazda in the rest of the world and he already knows the RX-7 is a thing
Do autists really?
Toyota 2000GT :^)
Nissan R390.
Not a supercar
>MR two seater
>TT V8
>somehow not a supercar
You pictured a race car. Also its a nissan so can't be a supercar
>You pictured a race car.
It's also a road car
>Also its a nissan so can't be a supercar
It meets supercar requirements. Mid engined two seater with a V8 at minimum making at least 400bhp, with a top speed of at least 180mph. It's also extremely rare (2 road cars in existence) and has eye catching styling with good handling to match.
>It's also a road car
>1 prototype made
Not a road car.
>blah blah blah cope cope cope
Nope, not a supercar.
Putting on a dress doesn't turn a man ito a woman.
It's a road-legal supercar. Quit playing semantics
No, its a prototype. Quit playing make believe.
"This road legal supercar isn't a supercar because I say so"
Is the MC8R somehow not a supercar either?
>This one-off prototype, parts-bin nissan isn't a supercar
Yes
It meets the requirements to be a supercar, ergo it is one, as does the MC8R.
No, it doesn't, and your cherry picked "requirements" are pure cope.
Just face it, a nissan or toyota can never be a lambo, maclaren, zonda, or porsche
I'm using the requirements given in the OP, which the both the R390 and MC8R meet. Cry about it
I am the OP, and you are just incorrect. Apart from that by being childish and say "cry about it" etc, you are just showing that you have lost. I accept your defeat also.
Stop stealing the thread you attention deprived homosexual. I am OP, and even I am confused by now what the "Supercar" definition is.
LFA by all accouts is a supercar, however the engine is in the front, so frick me I don't know anymore
Stop trying to derail my thread. I know what a supercar is and still nobody has posted one.
Why don't you post one then? Any supercar other than a Huracan and its predecessors, or F8 and its predecessors. Or if you don't consider those supercars, explain why.
Oh so not only are you shifting goalposts, you're a moron as well. The MC8R and R390 are supercars.
Too late, you have already lost. And by resorting to childish name calling you have just proven my point. You lose.
You lost when you disregarded cars that met your definition in the first post in addition to being a disingenuous homosexual
made in england on an old BRITISH jaguar/twr chassis. not japanese.
>nuh-uh, you're wrong and I'm right because I said so
: the thread
that's 90% of threads on this website.
You’re wrong it’s closer to 94%
>Had an engine in the front
> thus it doesn't fit the definition of a super car.
You mean it doesn't fit YOUR definition of a supercar.
>First
Japan only made 1 though
Gr86 is really just a hairdressers car, like a gm
Did you just seriously confuse an LFA with a GT86?
I mean lets be honest its just a toyota man.like the gm, c/4/5/6/7/8 are all pretty much the same. They just update safety, emissions and the hairdressers styling.
Anon I think you may be moronic
The thing is, a consoomer product like a toyota or gm can not even be desirable, let alone a supercar.
>A super car must have a mid mounted engine
That's literally not a part of the definition of a supercar. Here, have a selection of front-engined supercars:
>Most V12 Ferraris
>Most Aston Martins, including the One-77 and Vulcan
>AC Cobra/Daytona
>AMG GT, SLS, and SLR McLaren
>Corvette, Viper, and GT-R
>>Most Aston Martins, including the One-77 and Vulcan
>>AC Cobra/Daytona
>>AMG GT, SLS, and SLR McLaren
, Viper, and GT-R
Quit trolling my thread, none of these are remotely even close
>One-77 and SLS aren't supercars
>A fricking Ferrari 208 with less power than an NB Miata is a supercar
Okay, moron. So what about V12 Ferraris? Keep in mind that the 812 Superfast is faster than the 296 GTB or F8 Tributo.
>So what about some other shit nobody cares about.
Not interested, and, by resorting to childish name calling, you lose the argument instantly. I accept your defeat.
>Everything that would prove me wrong is irrelevant because I said so
You had your chance and blew it. Better luck next time.
>0-60 in under 2 seconds (faster than pretty much everything on the road, eve hayabusas. )
>200mph+ easy
>amphibious
>self driving
>not a slave to Big Oil
Now THIS is a supercar
Not mid engined.
And here comes the Big Oil shills to spam FUD
>dude check out my supercar
first japanese super car is nu nsx.
Thats more of an audi tt than anything else.
Its faster than a Mclaren F1, so i guess that's just an overpriced kit car.
it's not. if you talking about acceleration (quicker, not faster) than even a z51 C8 is quicker than the McLaren F1. Is a z51 C8 a supercar?
the NSX is faster, because it can actually go around corners, the Kit Car F1 can't.
That's probably more because people are more willing to break a mass produced $100K car compared to a 1 out of 106 $10 mil+ car Mr. Benchracer
You can use that same cope with any car. this cuda is rare, therefore any arguments against its ability to turn is just people being too scared to drive it because its a multi million dollar car with only a handful made.
>cope with any car
unfortunately you can't cope with any car Mr. Busriding benchracer
stupidest thread on the entire website, please commit suicide NOW OP
The Japs have yet to make one. The OG NSX was slower than a Blazer and the new NSX and LFA are slower than a Camaro.
92 NSX took about 5 secs for 0-60...unless a blazer at that time had some crazy torque monster of an engine what am i missing?
and honestly the lfa's exhaust sound alone is worth that price tag
Noisegays are dumber than stancegays
this only applies if your car has the regular fart can bullshit, and doesn't sound like an f1 car all the time
F1 sounds like shit
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Formula E will be the final nail in F1's coffin
no, the f1 im referring to was before hybrids became a thing
itt: pedantry
I reckon the Caspita is, by my arbitrary definition at least, the first proper Japanese supercar. Visually spectacular, bleeding edge performance, domestically designed andwhilst not of Japenese design it's first engine was at least domestically built.
"supercar" is a made up category created by eyeroll-worthy elitists. This is just like NUH UH IT'S A PONY CAR when people are generally talking about muscle or NUH UH IT'S A GRAND TOURER when talking about sports cars, ad infinitum. Benchracers and brand fanboys that just make up shit to suit whatever conversation they're in.
/mu/tants do this by splintering every music genre into extremely autistic niche categories that none of them can agree on, homosexuals and libshit catladies have invented something like 237 genders and flags for them all, etc. It's deconstructionist israeli nonsense.
Not sure why you posterd that muscle car though?
>A super car must have a mid mounted engine and must be performance oriented
this is a completely bullshit definition and you know it
>this
A plaid is universally recognised as a supercar now, so how does that work?
Op is is a homosexual. It's the 2000gt
It may have worn it's welcome thin, but the GTR was an absolutely phenomenal car for its time. Acceleration alone 0-60 in 3.5 seconds was easily supercar territory in 2008. I'd argue its the first and only Japanese car to actually give the germans and italians some real competition. If not a supercar, it was righteously the supercar killer
This thing is no different from a Tesla in the fact that brute force acceleration is one of the only things it has going for it. It sounds worse than almost any other car and it handles worse than most rivals (except American cars kek). Never understood why people like the R35. On top of sounding awful it doesn't even look as good as its predecessors.
>brute force acceleration is one of the only things it has going for it.
Huh!?!?!?!
The GTR normally had about the same power as it's German rivals or a little bit less. It was not keeping up with them by just having more horsepower like an American car. The 2008 model only had 480hp and the new models only have 565.
Now is there a ton of computers and tricks they do that enhance it's handling sure, but the chassis does have some good handling characteristics to it.
it can't even compete in autocross, it doesn't even handle better than a cobalt kek.
i love how much the gtr makes people seethe even years later
if I had the cash to source one that hasnt been beaten to shit by a towel man then id daily one, obviously not as prestigious as other supercars but thats why you can daily it as a sporty coupe
the tesla comparison is stupid tbh, those things were made to kill people in unexplained fires and launder us taxpayer money
>A super car must have a mid mounted engine and must be performance oriented
Tell this to the LFA fanboys
The LFA was designed as a GT car, nobody debates that.
I mean lets be honest, its basically a toyobaru with sporty styling
i wish my toyobaru had a v10
the v10 rs6 avant is my favourite supercar
I know this doesn't count as a supercar, but does anyone remember when Isuzu tried to put a f1 v12 in a pickup in the 90s?
They also made this cool concept car in the 80s.
I don't even know who is taking the bait harder in this thread