vehicles?
I'd have to say Buicks from the 1990s and 2000s.
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What's the closest American automakers ever got to matching the quality of Japanese
Geo
>rebadged Toyota Sprinter
>all that rust
Pottery
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It seems one Chinaman is based.
Ford Taurus. They were sleek, economical, and hugely popular upon release.
can't believe Buick still exists post-2005, bros
name a bigger collapse in the quality and value of any brand
and they're all ugly as frick, like an actual joke, on par with some korean clown cars
who the frick is buying them?
Buick is very popular in China.
> Buick is very popular in China.
Old age is respected in China, it’s said. Explains it.
Chairman Mao loved Buicks. It's a cultural thing.
So is eating eggs boiled in boy piss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_boy_egg
If you can eat piss, you can drive a Buick.
its very strange, a country and culture that generally doesn't hold intellectual property, authenticity in branding, or consumer loyalty finds itself engaging in all 3 with GM's Buick line. What happened? and no, not convinced its this
> What happened? and no, not convinced its this
An attempt at a joke. Buicks are considered cars for oldgays, at least in the USA
They marketed buick as a rich young man's up and coming car, the way morons view beamers or Mercedes in the us.
It goes back to the prewar, Buick had at one time an enormous amount of cache worldwide, which GM squandered like the rest of its brand equity. Their first president had one, the former emperor, Chiang Kai Shek. That left an indelible impression with them. They were also the first American brand to make any significant number of cars in China.
was there an actual reason given the 90deg v6/3800 was brought to an end instead of further refined?
the 3800 was built on the ancient 3.5 L Buick V8 block, with two cylinders removed, and bored out. refining it would've been extremely difficult, and likely required redesigning every part on it. instead of doing that, they just discontinued it, and made a new V6 in its place. the LFX/LGX "High Feature Engine" or whatever its called, is not nearly as durable, but at least it can meet emissions whilst making competitive power without needing to be boosted to hell. here's what the new V6 can do in a miata.
>is not nearly as durable,
this being tolerated, i blame on 60 month car loans.
if people could only buy what they could afford, the disposability of cars after around 2005's incoming class would never have been put up with by consumers.
LZ9 cars are in the can now, and it was only downhill from there...and there seems to be a big hole between that and the step down. You end up in 3cyl territory...
>Did you see Audi's timing chains?
>Do that but even worse
>worse than the frickin 4.2
is it perfect? obviously not. is it as bad as fricking Audi? not a chance. if I'm not mistaken, the 2 idlers on the v6 are balance shafts anyway, so it's about as compact and simple as it feasibly could have been done.
I've done timing chains on Traverses twice.
Do I enjoy it? No. Is it worse than the Audi? No.
As long as you have the two tools to ensure cam alignment, it's fine.
Before the LFX/LGX it was the LLT which was a heaping trash fire with an anemic stock oil pump that let the car run with low oil pressure for like 5 minutes. Plus vehicles with it had an oil change interval recommended by GM for 9000 MILES!
In comparison, the LFX/LGX are vastly superior due to correcting those issues and using a stronger material for the timing chain links to prevent premature stretching.
Still not a great engine like the 3800 but it's solid enough.
>name a bigger collapse in the quality and value of any brand
Nissan
Subaru
Mercedes
BMW
Land Rover
literally every badge gm got it's grubby shekel counting hands on
>who the frick is buying them?
I just bought one. Well, used.
the big Enclave is a super comfortable ride, made in America. the Envision is chink shit, literally, but the new gen genuinely genuinely looks really sharp. the Encore GX is a great value if you get a base spec. legitimately the perfect boomer car. Encore GX gets a lot of cringe hot takes because it's so easy to dump on Buick and reviewers also pretend people pay MSRP for GM cars. pre pandemic all the Buick crossovers were $5k to $10k off MSRP. i would drive the hell out of an Enclave Avenir
looks comfy tbh
I bought a verano on the cheap. Besides shit plastic piston rings because of the dcotec it's a decently comfortable a-b shitbox.
the crown vic surpassed the quality of jap vehicles. how many transmissions does it take for a lexus to reach a million miles? meanwhile, a vic can do it on its original.
american trucks can take all the physical abuse in the staged top gear hilux """durability""" test, and reach higher mileages on original parts.
An AOD-E or 4R70W isn't a timebomb like an AX4S but I still wouldn't be expecting 1m miles out of a properly maintained one.
Does an AOD-E with the J-mod still count as stock? It's not from-the-factory stock, but the process was written up by a Ford engineer and it's how the troony was originally designed.
J-mod helps. but it's still possible to get 1m miles on one but not likely. It's an outlier just like every other 1m mile vehicle. For every 1 million mile Toyota, Ford, or GM or even Dodge there's 1000 that that were junked before then.
Why has no one mentioned our lord and saviour Saturn
>Our dogshit cavaliers are still too expensive
>Lets make an even cheaper brand with plastic everything
>>Lets make an even cheaper brand with plastic everything
You meme this like its a bad thing
Everything eon the car that isn't plastic panels degrades like a cheap GM.
> have to junk my 20+ year old century soon
Thanks for reminding me mate
Why do you have to junk it? I have a 30 year old Century that I intend to keep running for years to come.
Rear end got smashed in a h&r, all turn signals fried, leaks coolant, last window motor finally gave, just getting harder to justify the upkeep and now I'm single and need a car that's not pussy repellent
Can't keep it as a beater cause my useless piece of shit avalanche needs a new motor too and I can't justify owning three cars
XJ Jeeps were pretty close.