It's just barely different enough from the cars it shares a platform with to require its own parts, making it a real headache, don't get me started on anything cosmetic for it
>troonyverse >wrong wheel drive >turbo >not a wagon
9-5s are too heavy for the 2.0, and the V6 is meh.
Among the nu-Saabs only the convertible is probably worth it because it's rather good as a convertible and there's no direct alternative to it from the sister badges. And maybe the XWD wagon because of the same reasons, but broken XWD can become a major hassle because of the parts availability.
My god, what a timeless, gorgeous design. These cars will never not look like they are from the future. >Why shouldn't I get one of these for my next car?
why shouldn't you marry a 10/10 who has low sex drive and all sorts of psychological problems that are unfixable? because looks are not everything, and sometimes it's just not worth it
learn to appreciate beauty from afar, sometimes getting too close reveals the ugliest details
As someone who loved Saabs and even worked for the company back around 2005, don't buy one.
2003 and up 9-3 models are just Chevy Malibus, and 2010 and up 9-5 models are also Malibus. Sure, you can find parts for them, but they're poorly designed from the ground up and made even worse thanks to the Swedes injecting their autism in an attempt to salvage the shitshow.
If you're dead set on a Saab, get a classic 900. good luck finding one that isn't rotted out.
>but they're poorly designed from the ground up
Are you saying that several popular European Opel models were poorly designed too? Or what's the catch? Could you give some examples?
They're built on the GM Epsilon platform, which was a sort of middle of the road platform that doesn't do anything particularly well. The ride is less comfortable than Saab's direct competitors and while its handling wasn't awful, it wasn't notable either. It was supposed to be a jack of all trades platform that GM dumped every compact sedan, midsized sedan, and small crossover on.
The Ecotec engine was also terrible, as in its early days the block was porous due to poor QC so your oil and coolant would just seep through and mix together. It wasn't much better from an engineering perspective, either, as the water pump was driven via the timing chains and was so flimsy that I never saw a single 9-3 make it to 60k miles on its original pump.
>The Ecotec engine was also terrible
Which one? As far as I know, B207s were pretty solid
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Anonymous
All Ecotec blocks were shit. The higher you go in years, the lower tha chance, but until at least 2008 encountering a porous block wasn't uncommon. You can find tons of Cobalt SS owners b***hing about it because forced induction exacerbated the issue.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Never heard about this issue from Saab owners honestly. They leak oil, they leak coolant, they sometimes even mix those, but not because of the porosity. And most of B207s have a lot of forced induction.
Saabs are cars for autistic men, no one else has the necessary drive to keep one on the road, do not get one if you're not willing to learn at least one foreign language just to source parts
Because there are better options for an unreliable shitheap
>toyota poorgay/busrider shitting on everything that isn't his car/the bus
like clockwork
every time
pure pottery
Good luck with spare parts.
It's just barely different enough from the cars it shares a platform with to require its own parts, making it a real headache, don't get me started on anything cosmetic for it
on a GM parts bin special?
>troonyverse
>wrong wheel drive
>turbo
>not a wagon
9-5s are too heavy for the 2.0, and the V6 is meh.
Among the nu-Saabs only the convertible is probably worth it because it's rather good as a convertible and there's no direct alternative to it from the sister badges. And maybe the XWD wagon because of the same reasons, but broken XWD can become a major hassle because of the parts availability.
My god, what a timeless, gorgeous design. These cars will never not look like they are from the future.
>Why shouldn't I get one of these for my next car?
why shouldn't you marry a 10/10 who has low sex drive and all sorts of psychological problems that are unfixable? because looks are not everything, and sometimes it's just not worth it
learn to appreciate beauty from afar, sometimes getting too close reveals the ugliest details
SAABs are some of the best cars to look at
Yeah
saabaru was alright
this is not
This is proper wheel drive with longitudinal layout, Subaru is not.
Also BoF and naturally aspirated
>body on frame
>can have a LS2 400hp V8
C'mon.
>something that makes Söyab less söy
What did you expect? The fans to love it?
my father suffers from saabism
he has 4 children
also everything after pre facelift saab 9000 is opel
you wouldn't drive a open would you?
As someone who loved Saabs and even worked for the company back around 2005, don't buy one.
2003 and up 9-3 models are just Chevy Malibus, and 2010 and up 9-5 models are also Malibus. Sure, you can find parts for them, but they're poorly designed from the ground up and made even worse thanks to the Swedes injecting their autism in an attempt to salvage the shitshow.
If you're dead set on a Saab, get a classic 900. good luck finding one that isn't rotted out.
>but they're poorly designed from the ground up
Are you saying that several popular European Opel models were poorly designed too? Or what's the catch? Could you give some examples?
They're built on the GM Epsilon platform, which was a sort of middle of the road platform that doesn't do anything particularly well. The ride is less comfortable than Saab's direct competitors and while its handling wasn't awful, it wasn't notable either. It was supposed to be a jack of all trades platform that GM dumped every compact sedan, midsized sedan, and small crossover on.
The Ecotec engine was also terrible, as in its early days the block was porous due to poor QC so your oil and coolant would just seep through and mix together. It wasn't much better from an engineering perspective, either, as the water pump was driven via the timing chains and was so flimsy that I never saw a single 9-3 make it to 60k miles on its original pump.
>The Ecotec engine was also terrible
Which one? As far as I know, B207s were pretty solid
All Ecotec blocks were shit. The higher you go in years, the lower tha chance, but until at least 2008 encountering a porous block wasn't uncommon. You can find tons of Cobalt SS owners b***hing about it because forced induction exacerbated the issue.
Never heard about this issue from Saab owners honestly. They leak oil, they leak coolant, they sometimes even mix those, but not because of the porosity. And most of B207s have a lot of forced induction.
Man it must've been a time where the entire customer base was dentists and PhDs. Talk about a dream demographic.
Saabs are cars for autistic men, no one else has the necessary drive to keep one on the road, do not get one if you're not willing to learn at least one foreign language just to source parts
>longitudinal layout
Meant front-mid longitudinal
God I hate long overhang front-engined shitboxes
You have no idea what you're talking about
Should I point at where the front axle shafts go?