Well, EVs are looking pretty temping now. Is this price gonna fall anytime soon? Fricking hate trying to fill up the gas with $100 each time
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Well, EVs are looking pretty temping now. Is this price gonna fall anytime soon? Fricking hate trying to fill up the gas with $100 each time
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>Is this price gonna fall anytime soon?
hahahahahahaha, good one anon.
Regular was 3.20/gal here. What sort of nightmare shithole do you live in?
If you're living in the Midwest, enjoy it while it lasts. Oil that was once bound for the Midwest is now starting to flow to the west coast.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Valero-Chevron-Tap-Trans-Mountain-Pipeline-for-West-Coast-Crude.html
Thats not how the oil distillate market works, frickhead. Jesus Christ these threads are so stupid.
https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/say-goodbye-to-dirt-cheap-canadian-oil-56615de8
Washington and California are competing for highest gas prices. Importing millions of indians and africans to drive luxury cars while adding carbon taxes and not building any refineries
>Washington
Buy gas on the indian reservations. Much cheaper. Pay cash (untracable) and the clerk pushes the tribe member discount button.
Currently I drive a Honda and around 5k miles a year. Never cared about gas prices and never will. I'm 42yo.
If gas is near $8 a gallon your government is doing it on purpose. Gas is $3.39 here. This is likely just a stupid shitpost thread using a stock photo from two years ago.
Gas is like $3.80 in Pittsburgh. Was $3.60 not long ago. Sam's club / costco is like 15 cents cheaper.
Yeah well Pennsylvania has the highest gas tax in the country by far. Stop electing israelites and Shreks you moronic frick.
Didn't they literally elect a senator named Shapiro. And a moron with a broken brain
>my my state suck
KEK
$3.60 here in Florida
$2/quart (£1.52/L) in the UK and its not a bad price atm
$2/quart is the price of Miller High Lifes (cheap beer) in individual quart sized bottles in America.
$3 a gallon is still outrageous
Is this that one BUMFRICK nowheresville gas station in the middle of the California desert that everyone posts meme prices pictures from? I see trees, so it doesn't look like it.
Looks like the LA area to me. There are some stations scattered around that scalp the frick out of gas because they're the only station for miles on some major commuting route, and charge like $2 more than the regional average. It could also be SF like
says, very few stations in town and they're all ridiculous there, but the buildings look more LA to me.
There's a third option. CNG, it's down to 2.06 a gallon near me
>tfw i see complaints about US gas prices and it's just the normal price of gas here
I feel you bro, 2 yuros for a litre of 98 octane is suffering
frick i was actually thinking about aus but you guys have it even worse. you guys get the ever loving shit taxed out of your fuel
https://www.aip.com.au/pricing/international-prices/international-price-comparisons
pic related is for oecd countries september quarter 2023. green is fuel cost, blue is tax
Finland might have edged out netherlands as the government just increased the fuel tax again, last time was in january, now they increased it like a few weeks ago because uhh money and the environmnet.
Our govt. really does some stupid fricking things so they're always out of money on the important things. Not that the municipalities are much smarter. Imagine Lahti seriously considering whether to sell the municipal profit generating electricity monopoly or shut down the town theater
>lahti
Just start taxing the amphetamine trade, problem solved.
The entire US transport infrastructure is based on individual passenger vehicles, so it makes sense that gas has to be cheap. Meanwhile Europe has actual functioning public transit.
>Meanwhile Europe has actual functioning public transit
You've never been to England have you mate lmao
I haven’t actually, only continental Europe and Ireland. I thought France’s train network was especially impressive.
You've never been to Germany have you mate lmao
You go back to /n/ or /misc/ to advertise your public poo transit.
>Is this price gonna fall anytime soon?
Once we're closer to the election it will fall. Then it'll skyrocket back up.
$9/gal here and going higher. Still electricity peaks ~$2,5/kWh so you may not save anything at all. Thanks yuropoor.
>$2,5/kWh
That's what a pricing cartel does to you. Powerplants are disincentivized to produce power because it makes it cheaper. Having 'breakdowns' at just the right ratio to maximize profits is their tactic
holy frick. We pay $0.08 in the USA and about $0.18 in Japan.
It's about 0.08 € + couple euros a month in binland, too.
Market-price electricity is almost free at times because of all the wind power they've been building. But you might have to pay 3 € / kWh on some really cold windless winter day if you accept a contract like that.
Suppose that might still save money on average if you can charge something when power is cheap, and the house is insulated well enough to not need constant heating.
>Market-price electricity is almost free at times
At times it's not used. Storing energy is super expensive if you're not built for it from the outset. Electricity is a basic need in modern society, consumers aren't equipped to deal with pricefixing nor can their finances usually carry a random grand in extra fees. Longterm contracts jumped up to 0,4€/kWh, making them extemely disadvantageous too.
Electricity price is determined by the most expensive form of production, but what the frick is even capable of costing 2,5€/kWh? Burning diesel in basic very inefficient consumer generator is ~0,5€/kWh
>what the frick is even capable of costing 2,5€/kWh
Someone's dividends, probably.
Most electricity consumers kind of expect the supply to be constantly available, so if that constant supply is in any danger, any supplier with capacity to spare can name the price.
And if that one supplier is asking for 2.5 € / kWh to save the grid during that one night, why would anyone else accept any less?
Were there any competition literally anyone would jump at the opportunity of getting 2,4€/kWh by running a really costly array of diesel gensets. But that's not how the electricity 'market' works. A couple companies control entire supply with no limits, they'll just tank production until it costs 100% of your income.
10% of the cost of electricity is from production.
>$2.5/kWh
I refuse to believe this. I'm in gr**n governed Goymoney and pay ~$0.43/kWh. This is already damn near apocalyptic. Where the frick do you pay five times that?
>it's another "Americans complain about gas prices" episode
They'd all collectively piss and shit themselves if they had to pay what the rest of the world is paying
Our prices being completely mental doesen't remove the fact that the US gas prices are unreasonable
You drive small econoboxes less than the average american drives
You have options, we don't.
America here: id pay higher gas tax if it actually meant nicer roads. As it is our roads are trash, like truly awful, compared to most of Europe and Japan. But the trade off is the gas is cheap af.
$9.5 /gal and no, diesel is still smarter option
Isn't there like a global cartel that manipulates oil prices to this day?
>Isn't there like a global cartel that manipulates oil prices to this day?
They try, but the US is a net exporter of cheap oil now and that took away opec's control of a lot of the world.
$3.10 / gallon here, not concerned.
That Chevron in the pic is from San Fransisco, right?
Most of your price is STATE taxes.
Gas is $2.89 where I live. Vote. but you won't.
I voted, but gas price keeps increasing. Now what?
California gas taxes are only like 50 cents more than in Midwestern or Southern states. The other $2+ of the price difference is just pure profiteering, and you see it through the massive variation between stations only a few miles from one another, or how quickly station owners are willing to change their prices when there's competition, my local supermarket recently opened a gas station that was $1 cheaper than the local average and within a week the Shell across the street had lowered their prices to match.
I do think California needs to get rid of their ridiculous non-standard gas blends though, they may have made sense in the days when most cars were carbureted but any modern car with other states' gas puts out 1/10th the emissions of an old car on the California blend so it's totally pointless and just a needless burden on those of us forced to live in this hellhole.
Buy a Prius, tried and true.
ooohhh everyone is sooo giga mega rich in the USA oh nooo I can't afford gas
what is it now? poorgays
>JEALOUTH OF MY PIDDUP TWUCK, POORFAAAAG????
>*takes out a payday loan to get to work when gas goes above $4.50/gallon*
the duality of the truckold
its just another ZOG agenda to push you to take the bus.
>increase gas prices
>increase EV prices
>increase electricity cost
>remove EV incentives
>add more taxes to gas
its over, you WILL ride a bus with Black folk, and you WILL have to make eye contact with a homeless homosexual
just make more money. what's the problem?
>Anon is in California
Gas prices vary pretty wildly in Cali. last time I went there, i paid under $4 for premium in a couple of cases, and nearly $7 at another station
i last filled up my honda 4 months ago; i use fuel stabilizer so it's still good. I dont drive much. If I had and EV my battery would be dead after 3 weeks.
Flexfuel vehicle, E85 fuel or diy ethanol fuel are the solution before US gets better president someday. Biden's policies are the cause of expensive fuels.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-set-to-block-millions-of-acres-from-oil-and-gas-drilling-in-earth-day-action
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/energy-prices-soar-biden-administration-jacks-costs-drill-public-lands
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-admin-cancels-plan-to-refill-emergency-oil-reserve-amid-high-prices
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-issues-new-natural-gas-tax-latest-fossil-fuel-crackdown
Corn farming is heavily subsidized by taxpayer money and ethanol fuel would not be economically viable otherwise. Corn monoculture farming is also extremely land/water inefficient and is destroying the country’s topsoil, we’re headed for another dustbowl within a few decades thanks to that.
>Corn farming is heavily subsidized by taxpayer money and ethanol fuel would not be economically viable otherwise.
Thats good long as petroleum fuels are also subsidized, If I remember correctly even EVs are subsidized in some areas.
My point was more that there’s no good reason to subsidize corn farming for ethanol production because of how harmful and inefficient it is. It would be much better to just use EVs. This is not an inherent problem with ethanol, though, algae farming for biofuel production would be much better if we could figure it out.
Corn ethanol monoculture wouldn't be a good thing, but if a nitrogen fixing high-density fuel crop could be developed as part of a crop rotation to provide fuel for agriculture that wouldn't be a bad thing.
Ideally the requirement that all new vehicles sold after 2035 should have 80% of their use be all-electric would reduce need for fuel dramatically. Possibly enough to make ethanol or other bio-fuels more viable at northern latitudes.
I disagree with you. Theres nothing you can do to make me accept EVs or plug in hybrids. I support internal combustion engines running on corn ethanol fuel over any EVs, full hybrids. Most of water comes from ground, heaven and water from this planet is never ending so its not an issue at all until the whole planet blows up for some reason. Instead of complaining how much water corn ethanol production consumes, maybe you should complain more about those 10000-800000+ amounts of homes with piped water-radiator heating systems that are closed systems where the water is never released back into nature before the heating systems are replaced with some alternative system or the whole houses demolished to the ground.
Fossil fuel subsidies: Trillions annually.
Ethanol subsidies to compete: 100s of Billions annually.
EV subsidies to compete: Single-digit Billions annually.
Removing all the subsidies would be sensible, but as long as one side only dishonestly argues against subsidies for everything other than fossil fuels it is a non-starter. The whole point of subsidies for options other than fossil fuels is so that they can get going to provide actual competition from being dependent on a fuel whose price is controlled in part by hostile foreign nations. There is no true free market for energy as long as countries can dump their supply at a temporary loss to create permanent dependence.
That's the hard lesson Europe forgot when they started shutting down clean nuclear energy and made themselves vulnerable to Russia.
>Germany = Europe
The EU needs stronger integration, to present a united front against Russia.
The West in general has been too easy on obvious Russian stooges.
All that's changed in the last 30 years is who the Russians were targeting with the nonsense they spew.
They've never been serious about anything other than wanting to have authority over everyone's lives.
>Create great economy
>More people drive
>More people buy gas
>Demand makes prices go up
You don't want to have another economic disaster that makes people stop driving again do you?
Giving the fossil fuel industry more extraction rights that they can sit on like the last guy will do nothing to help.
Biden has actually made them develop the stuff they were just sitting on previously which is why supply is up.
He's also invested in creating actual competition to their monopoly which should make prices cheaper and more stable.
Gas right now in Mammoth Lakes is $6.10.
$5 here in Sac.
In '22 the PRK hit $5.90 in October.
I bet we're in the $6 range by September this year.
diesel is now 5-10 cents cheaper than gas in my state (Illinois). About to pick up a used Mercedes E320 CDI.
>buy electric car
>or just vote trump and get cheap gas again
what a hard choice
Don't they normally lower gas prices before an election in an attempt to trick voters into thinking it wasn't THAT bad the last 4 years?